Ubuntu Multimedia :: Xorg-edgers - When Does Experimental Become Mainstream
Jul 6, 2011
I started using Ubuntu Karmic on my old laptop w/ATI GPU and quickly realized the benefits of the xorg-edgers PPA. I understand that these packages are considered bleeding-edge, and do sometimes cause breakage. For me though , the pluses have vastly outweighed the minuses, which were negligible. I can't use any proprietary drivers w/my old card, and 3d is basically non-functional with the standard open ATI drivers. With xorg-edgers, I can use Compiz, play OpenArena and Quake Live.
Now after over a year and a half, 15 kernels and nearly 4 releases later, I'm really not sure how much progress has been made with the mainstream open ATI drivers, though I have been enjoying 3d with xorg-edgers. I really don't know how much of the bleeding-edge performance is due to the drivers, the kernel, xserver, or other libraries. I'm just looking forward to the day when my GPU is fully functional OOTB. how packages go from experimental to mainstream? Speculate on when open ATI development will be complete, and will that be all that is required for properly accelerated graphics?
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Jan 19, 2011
I'm using Debian testing but I want Shotwell (and nothing else) from experimental. I also like to be notified when there is an update to Shotwell in experimental. Will that be achieved if I add experimental to sources.conf and the following to preferences?
Package: shotwell
Pin: release a=experimental
Pin-Priority: 600
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Jun 28, 2011
I tried to make Compiz work using the experimental 3D support of the free Nvidia driver, because I am suffering from a bug in the proprietary driver (click here for launchpad entry). The free driver I mean is the one that shows up as "Experimental 3D support for NVIDIA cards" in the "Additional Drivers" manager (note: for some reason, this option will only present itself when no proprietary driver is currently active).
Now the strange thing is: the driver does not provide 3d support, and behaves generally awful (lots of glitches and so on) when I boot my system normally. But when instead I boot from the grub menu into recovery mode, then select "failsafe graphics", and then select "restart X", the whole thing works perfectly! So now I am running the experimental 3d driver, I have compositing working, 3d animations on docky. Somehow, the failsafe boot sequence does something right that my normal boot sequence does not. When I reboot in normal mode, everything is screwed up again.
I have no idea what statistics about my system I should include here, because I really have no idea what could possibly be wrong. I am running 32bits Natty in Classic mode, on an Ahtlon Dual Core 4850e machine, with a GeForce 6150 LE graphics card. These are the normal and recovery entries in my grub.cfg:
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menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.38-8-generic-pae' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
recordfail
set gfxpayload=$linux_gfx_mode
insmod part_msdos
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Mar 21, 2011
adding an Intel 80GB X25-Mainstream SSD to boot from.
1. If I change the boot order in the Bios so that the SSDis the primary boot drive can I just install to the ssd and will that leave all data on the other drives?
2. I currently have two hard drives one has / and /home on it. The ssd will be added and ubuntu installed prior to reformatting the drive with / and /home.
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Jul 30, 2011
other than Python, which languages are built into most Linux distros, using a real-time interpreter, like the Python prompt, where you can just enter some commands and test out ideas before actually creating a file with your program?
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May 7, 2011
today a new driver shows up in additional drivers i do not know if it is the nvidia or the nouveau 3d driver it has no name beside it
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Oct 11, 2010
I want to use the .debs from testing and experimental on Ubuntu 10.4. I added the repository info from debian sources but it doesn't show up as an upgrade. I know about downloading from OO.org but I want the new versions of go.org that debian has.
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Jan 22, 2010
I have been using grub2 experimental from fzielcke's ppa. I tried to use the gfxmenu by modifying grub.cfg downloaded from grub.gibibit.com and overlaying the overlay file from that website. When I rebooted by laptop, it shows the graphical menu for about 1 to 2 secs before rebooting my laptop. Has anyone else experienced the same problem (and maybe found the solution)?Alternatively I also tried to download the source from grub's experimental branch. Everything went smoothly until I issued the make command... It is missing some files e.g. loader.S (an include file for ~/experimental/kern/i386/pc/startup.S). Can anyone help me obtain the complete source files for the experimental branch?
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Sep 5, 2010
I'm trying to find some .deb packages for some experimental Compiz plugins, mainly the Headtracking plugin. I have tried compiling the plugin, but I have had no end of trouble doing so. Come to think of it, I don't think I have ever successfully compiled a piece of software in Linux. So, are there any .deb packages for this plugin?
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Apr 16, 2011
all the packages which I have installed which are in experimental but which can be downgraded or can be had from unstable. Is there such a way ?
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Jan 3, 2010
I'm using an ATI Mobility Radeon 3450, an R6xx card, with the radeon driver. I've been wanting 3D acceleration and was considering trying the experimental DRI support with Mesa 3D. So my questions are:
1. How experimental is experimental at this point? Is the specific mesa-dri-drivers-experimental package more-or-less static?
2. Would I be better off with Mesa 7.6 from the repository or 7.7? What would be the best approach before installing it?
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Apr 2, 2011
I am using Linux Mint Debian Edition and am using the unstable for all my packages. I do have some that I installed from experimental like gnome3. How do I upgrade all and only all that have been installed from experimental to their new versions in experimental?
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May 17, 2011
EDIT: This thread has taken a different turn, please go down to viewtopic.php?f=30&t=64242#p370832 Below is I originally wrote, now totally irrelevant.:D I am delighted/bored with my one Debian Squeeze install, so I've decided to free up a partition to play with another configuration of the universal OS.At the moment I am liking the looks of the supposedly not so unstable Sid; what's the ideal download/install path to get Sid up and running? Is it:1) I already have a live Squeeze GNOME DVD lying around; should I install that again and upgrade to Sid?
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Feb 15, 2010
In several threads I read about installing an ati card on fc12. mesa-dri-drivers-experimental should be a good choice. So I installed it, made a reboot and nothing changed. In the xorg.conf "vesa" ist set. When I put "mesa" there and reboot, x dont starts. Whats wrong? Btw I am using igp hd 4200 and fc12-64bit
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Mar 20, 2010
Yes, I was all excited when I plugged in an old dusty PC and found it still alive with a 32 gig hard drive & 260 Megs of RAM with an open slot for more memory, fit for my first Linux system. Then I navigated to device manager and found it was powered by a celeron, which was kind of a bummer.Anyway, can I get by with this setup? I'd like to use the slackware distribution, and my main purpose is to learn to administer a LAN, starting w/ 2 local clients, & a server that also runs Apache.
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Mar 27, 2011
I'm having trouble with my sony bravia and the automatic setting of the display over HDMI. In the Xorg.0.log I get a bunch of "EDID contradicts itself" error messages and then finaly it will set a 1920x1080 resolution at 50Hz. In the nvidia gui I successfully see the 24Hz, 50Hz and 60Hz modes, but when I select them, my TV does not recognize them as such. Because of this, xbmc can not set the right refresh rates (I assume this is the cause) and I get tearing.
Some output:
Xrandr gives:
Code:
1920x1080 50.0* 51.0 52.0 53.0 54.0 55.0 159.0
At the same time, "nvidia-settings -nt -q RefreshRate" says
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60.00 Hz
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Sep 1, 2011
I have an apple tv1 running ubuntu hardy. Due to audio video requirements I do not want to upgrade. I am trying to get 1080p24 working my TV. I ran X in verbose mode to ensure that my TV supports 1080p24 and it does. For some reason the X is not able to see the 1920x1080 @ 24Hz mode. I got the required information to add the modeline to my xorg.conf.
My xorg.conf is as follows
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Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Layout0"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
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When I check the Xorg log file I have the following warning
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(WW) NVIDIA(0): No valid modes for "1920x1080_24"; removing. Is there any way I can append the valid modeline for 1920x1080 @ 24Hz to. I am avoiding using a modified EDID.
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Aug 21, 2011
At first I thought it might be a free software thing but I went on the debian package search site and stable, sid, and experimental all have packages for wine. Why is there none for wheezy? Is it a temporary dependency thing or...? I've googled this but there has been no kind of answer anywhere. Right now I'm using the frickelplatz apotsid repository as they package the most recent version of wine but if I could use a standard debian repository I would.
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Aug 11, 2015
I use Debian 8 with mate and when I run
Code: Select allps_mem
It show Xorg use more than 1.9GB of RAM and sometimes my system hang and freeze.
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Feb 9, 2010
I see that 9.10 doesn't use the xorg file anymore. What am i going to edit now? I just installed the ATI graphics driver and now i need to have ubuntu use it instead of the vesa driver. How can this be done with no xorg conf file?
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Feb 28, 2010
I just bought a new desktop with integrated intel graphics and built in HDMI. I don't have a monitor, only a 42 inch LCD TV. Now, when I plugged in the HDMI cable, when ubuntu loaded, it was oversized(overscanned) cutting off both panels(think zoomed in a bit). After failing to fix, I bought an ATI HD4350. When using the open source ati drivers(default on reboot), the screen looked perfect and fit perfectly when using the DVI to HDMI cable to the TV, was a bit UNDERsized when using a regular HDMI cable to the HDMI port on the new video card. Now, when I installed Catalyst...same problem as before. Entire image was overscanned using either port. Decided to get a better video card anyways, so returned ATI for Nvidia 9500. When booting again into a clean install, with nv drivers and using DVI-> HDMI cable(9500 doesn't have HDMI out), the image again fit perfectly on the TV. When installing the Nvidia proprietary driver, image goes back to being overscanned(Exactly same proportion as intel HDMI out and ATI with catalyst). Thankfully Nvidia gives an overscan correction tool that I scaled the picture down with, but it's ever so slightly off center or our of proportion(that is, it leaves small black strip on either side when height is adjusted perfectly).
In a nutshell, the open source drivers display perfectly. Proprietary and intel drivers are overscanned. Now, to confuse you anymore, with Lucid, even the open source ATI driver is overscanned by default. I'm trying to track this problem down and have no idea where to start.
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Apr 4, 2010
I'm using an Intel 965 GM graphics chip with the "intel" driver. I'm curious as to why it doesn't seem to be using any of the options that I'm placing under the Device section of xorg.conf. Here's an example:
Section "Device"
Identifier "Configured Video Device"
Driver "intel"
Option "AccelMethod" "XAA"
EndSection
In my Xorg.0.log file, I get the following message:
(WW) intel(0): Option "AccelMethod" is not used
Why would it not be allowing me to use options such as this? I know that my driver and video card are compatible with this option, as is indicated in this manual: [URL]
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Apr 18, 2010
I am trying to fine tune the S-video output settings for my xubuntu box running 9.10. I am having some trouble getting modes loaded via xorg.conf. Currently, my xorg.conf file looks like:
Code:
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier"Generic Keyboard"
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Jan 4, 2010
For those of us who were stung last year by ATI's decision to drop support for <= R500 series cards from their closed source, or proprietary driver (known as the FGLRX driver), we are now forced to use the opensource ATI XORG driver. This is not as bad as it sounds, as in doing so, ATI has released a lot of the hardware specs on these older cards and the opensource driver has improved dramatically in the last year as a result.
Ubuntu includes both the ATI and the FGLRX driver install capacities in recent releases (since Intrepid(?)). If one can install the FGLRX driver, you should be able to do this by choosing System>Administration>Hardware Drivers and choosing to activate the ATI drivers; or you can manually install them using this guide: [URL]
However, if you have a card that is or below the R500 series (i.e. not R600+) DO NOT install the FGLRX drivers - you will break your X server (video display). If you don't know what series chipset you have, try the following:
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$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub (rev 0c)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 PCI Express Root Port (rev 0c)
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If you're like me and need a production machine, but just want updated drivers, try this link: [URL]
To add the PPA (Guide): [URL]
These are fairly easy to remove (as described on the site); just remove the PPA from your Software Sources and downgrade the drivers.
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Jan 6, 2010
I am setting up a display system that will not have a keyboard/mouse and automatically boots into gnome and starts up firefox to a display page. The page is optimized to a 720p resolution which I can set when we use a TV for the display, but is not an option if we use a monitor. I am trying to find a way to set the resolution to 720p automatically on boot up. I am always using 16x9 displays with a DVI connection (to HDMI on TVs)
I was able to get one monitor working by creating a script and setting it to load in the Startup Applications as shown:
Code:
#!/bin/bash
scnres="1280 720 60"
modeline=$(cvt -v $scnres | grep Modeline)
modeline=${modeline#Modeline }
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Feb 13, 2010
I'm trying to get my screen resolution set in Mythbuntu 9.10, but there is no xorg.conf on my system! I'm trying to figure out what to do (the xfce tool on mythbuntu doesn't offer the correct resolution, and I'm not even sure what driver I'm using). I've seen other threads saying to run nvidia-setup or somesuch. I assume the appropriate tool in my case would be aticonfig (I saw that elsewhere too) as I'm using an ATI Radeon 9600XT, but that tool says:
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aticonfig: No supported adapters detected
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Feb 14, 2010
I have connected my computer to my LCD-TV (HDMI-cable) to enjoy my movies and such, on a big screen. I have nVidia GeForce 7050 so in nvidia-settings I've been using the TwinView configuration which allows me to see both the monitor and the TV.
There was a bit of trouble-shooting but it worked just fine until yesterday when I changed my monitor to a new one and on the way probably messed up in nvidia-settings. I thought it would be easy to fix it but the configuration (in nvidia-settings) is stuck on "separete x-screen" and doesn't allow any changes at all. When I hit the "Detect display" nothing happens although I have the TV connected!
Maybe my xorg.config could tell somebody what is wrong. I've been messing around with the file and made lots of changes acc to different advices but I really don't understand the options and settings so I'm afraid I'll soon do something inreperable.
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Mar 1, 2010
I'm trying to install Nvidia drivers 190.53 on my karmic with a Nvidia 9500GT. I've downloaded the file from the Nvidia website. I've done this before on previous installations and everything went fine, however, with karmic turning off the xserver is a bit of a trick.
/etc/init.d/gdm stop doesn't work
sudo service gdm stop doesn't work
sudo killall gdm doesn't work.
After I run sh ./NVIDIA-linux-x86-190.53-pkg1.run a notice pops up and tells me I'm running x and I need to exit out. I thought I did. I've looked at the instructions on the Nvidia website, but I don't remember it being that complicated before and am a little nervous about removing files I don't know what they do.
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Jun 8, 2010
I have just installed 10.04 LTS on my Inspiron 1100 and I really want to get this video driver debacle taken care of! It seems that one cannot simply edit xorg.conf on 10.04 LTS as it's owned by root and I'm not sure how to acquire root access... I've read a couple of threads similar to this one here: [URL]. I can't save changes to the xorg.conf file...
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Aug 4, 2010
I want to change color depth, but there's no xorg.conf file to edit... what to do? btw, shouldn't there be a simple gui for that? Like for changing resolution
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