Ubuntu Installation :: Running 10.04 On Non Bootable ESata HD?
May 4, 2010
I have a laptop (hp 8530w) with Vista and disk encryption software installed on the internal hard drive. As I cannot touch the internal hard drive, I would like to install and run Ubuntu from an external hard drive (500 hitachi in an enclosure with USB and eSata port). The idea being that when the drive is connected I run Ubuntu and when it is not the internal HDD is used to boot. I already installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on this external hard drive. I would like to run it using eSata interface and not USB as the former offers better performance. Unfortunately, as it turns out my BIOS does not allow me to boot directly from eSata disk. I can however boot from USB.
I thought it would be possible to install a boot loader on a USB stick and tell it somehow that Ubuntu is installed on the eSata disk and load the system from there.
I installed GRUB on a USB stick without grub.cfg. This allowed me to load GRUB and get to its shell. Here I discovered another issue. Using GRUB "ls" command the eSata drive is not listed - I can see the USB stick (hd0) and the internal drive (hd1) but no eSata drive. Not being an expert I don't know when in the boot process the eSata disk is detected. If I load Ubuntu completely from USB stick I can see it listed with "fdisk -l" command.
At this point, knowing that I can boot from USB, I'm wondering if there is any way to have a hybrid solution with USB stick storing only what's required to bootstrap Ubuntu, and then have everything else stored on and mounted to my external drive. Is there any other, better way (assuming I cannot do anything on the internal hard drive like repartitioning it, etc ...) to get to what I'm after? I know that I could boot and run Ubuntu using USB interface only but as I stated above I would like to use eSata as it offers better performance. I suppose I'm not the only one trying to do that. Unfortunately my web research did not reveal any solutions.
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Code:
kexec memtest86-4.0.iso
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I can no longer mount the drive with eSATA (doesn't even recognize it). It was mounted on /dev/sdb1. The drive also has a USB ... I tried that and it mounts fine.
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Here is some output:
fstab (2 lines below 'cause I swap HDD's between my dock and offsite storage):
Code:
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
UUID=228d6ffc-c50e-425d-a768-fcb9c22d8383 / ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1
UUID=aa75b03b-5037-4b0b-b73b-0c1f017c89dd none swap sw
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I have run into a problem with eSATA that so far I have been unable to find a solution to it on any of the Ubuntu or Intel forums. My set up is as below:
OS: Ubuntu 10.04.01 LTS Server (base install)
Motherboard: DP55KG
BIOS: ver. KGIBX10J.86A..5893.2010.1116.0001
Marvell Controller: 88SE6145, BIOS 1.2.0.31
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My understanding is that Ubuntu is suppose to detect the eSATA drive without any extra drivers, my experience is it does not - I am missing something or is anyone else having/had this problem and been able to get eSATA to work?
page [URL] but I don't believe this applies to Ubuntu.
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