Ubuntu :: File Loss On NTFS With Dual-Boot?
Oct 24, 2010
Here's the breakdown of my Hard Drive:
Partition 1: Windows 7 - NTFS
Partition 2: Ubuntu 10.10 - Ext4
Partition 3: Data - NTFS
Partition 4: Windows Recovery - meh...
Basically, I have it so that I have one large NTFS partition (Data) for sharing files between Ubuntu and Windows. It works very well. I keep all my Documents, Music, Pictures and Videos on "Data" and then sym-link those folders to my home folder on Ubuntu. Unfortunately, I'm afraid to bootup Windows. Sometimes when I boot Windows, files that I made or edited in Ubuntu get lost, unindexed or corrupt. It happens very frequently with image files (.jpeg, .png, etc.) but also happens with PDFs and folders. This means that not only do these files become unusable, but I also can't delete them. Even using $ rm -rf my_file returns a "Cannot delete my_file. It is not a file or directory."
The only way to get rid of these files is to perform a CHKDSK on Data when I boot Windows. CHKDSK always finds a shed-load of files that have gone haywire. I'm usually greeted by an seemingly indefinite list of "Removing index entry xyz from $afxyz" and other scary looking actions being taken out on my files.I keep backups of my files on an external HDD and a remote server, but it's no use when I'm backing up corrupt files.
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Mar 6, 2011
Are there risks of data loss when writing on a NTFS using ntfs-3g, and will windows have trouble reading from that system later?
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Mar 2, 2011
I installed 10.04 dual boot with XP.
I used advanced partition scheme and added partitions for /, /home, /swap, and and NTFS partition mounted at /home/username/Desktop/DATA.
Unfortunately the NTFS partition was created as a "Linux (0x83)" partition and therefore is not recognized inside Windows. I did not even realize there was such a thing as Linux only (Non MS) NTFS partition. I don't even recall the details when selecting the partition type.
I tried using disk Ubuntu utility to change the type to "HPFS/NTFS (0x07)". While mounted I get error after long delay (hang) high CPU usage error "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)"
If I try the same change with DU after unmounting the volume, I get the same error.
I'm in the process of moving/backingup all data on the volume. I'll most likely reformat. Question is, shall I format with Gparted or within Windows Disk Manager? I seem to recall some odd permission problems in the past with mounted NTFS volumes.
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Nov 18, 2010
I have a 1TB External HD that at the time of purchasing was used with my PS3 which only allowed FAT32 HDs. But now I am using it for other uses. I have came across the problem of the file size limit of 4gb that FAT32 has.The problem is I have about 200 GB filled of data on this HDD and wish to convert it to NTFS with no data being lossed. Is this possible and if so how?
Edit: BTW no Microsoft just Ubuntu
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Aug 3, 2011
This forum might not be the best place for this question, but some people here are pretty knowledgeable and may have more insight than I do about this. Anyways, I'm thinking about expanding an NTFS (Windows 7) partition on my desktop computer into unallocated space. I know that there is a risk when shrinking a NTFS partition due to fragmentation but are there any risks of data loss from expanding a NTFS partition? My common sense tells me there isn't a risk but I want to be 100% sure I won't lose any files.
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Jul 18, 2010
I have a dual boot of Ubuntu 10.04 and Windows 7. I have 2 hard drives on the system, a 500GB and a 1TB drive.
Code:
root@akashi-desktop:~# fdisk -l
Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x3e67485a .....
Since the drive (sdb2) was already mounted I was able to see "file" show up on the NTFS drive (sdb2) with the last command above. After I rebooted onto Windows 7, I found my F: drive (sdb2) showing up as a RAW filesystem. Windows 7 asks to reformat and I press NO as I have a lot of files on that drive. I rebooted onto Ubuntu again, during boot it says cannot mount to /dev/sdb2 and to press "S" to skip. I pressed "S" and saw sdb2 not mounted. I tried this command:
Code:
root@akashi-desktop:~# mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb2 /media/sdb2
NTFS signature is missing.
Failed to mount '/dev/sdb2': Invalid argument
The device '/dev/sdb2' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS.
Maybe the wrong device is used? Or the whole disk instead of a partition (e.g. /dev/sda, not /dev/sda1)? Or the other way around?
How to fix this drive without formatting it! fdisk shows the filesytem as NTFS so it must still be fixable I hope.
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May 25, 2010
I have a dual-boot Fedora / WinXP laptop, and the F13 upgrade failed soon after the 'upgrade' option was selected in the menu.The problem was that the installer could not recognise the ...ntfs-3g.. entry for WinXP in /etc/fstab.The fix is simply to change this entry to ...ntfs... and the install will then proceed OK.
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Aug 26, 2009
i have windows xp with ntfs partitions on my laptop i want to install centos on it will i be able to dual boot centos with windows xp on the ntfs partition
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Jul 19, 2009
I have a dual boot system with XP and CentOS 5.3, I want to access the NTFS partitions of XP from CentOS but how?
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Feb 23, 2011
I am attempting to install Maverick on an older pc. It has (2) mirrored 153 GB SATA drives. I set aside 33GB for a linux partition, by shrinking the partition in Vista.
Choosing to "Install along side windows" is not an available option. I can only choose use who disk, or use empty area. I choose use the empty area, and the Ubiquity installer gets hung up when attempting to format the empty space as EXT4. When I scroll up on the output I notice some error messages referencing NTFS. When I use Gparted it shows a possible problem.
Quote:
Warning:
The device /dev/sda1 doesn't exist
ntfsresize v2.0.0 (libntfs 10:0:0
ERROR(2):Failed to check 'dev/sda1' mount state: No such
file or directory
Probably /etc/mtab is missing. It's too risky to continue. You
might try an another Linux ditro.
Unable to read the contents of this file system!Because of this some operations may be unavailable.
The following list of software packages is required for ntfs file system support: ntfsprogs.
I ran chkdsk /r on the Vista partiton, in case there was a problem there. The issue still persists.
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Jun 20, 2011
When i work in Ubuntu on a dual boot system with a shared NTFS data-partition where Windows is hibernated, and then reboot and continue working in Windows from the hibernated sesion, strange things happen. Files disappear, files that i worked on suddenly have the content of another file.
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Aug 6, 2010
My new system build is nearly complete and I will be formatting it in about an hour and installing the OS's. I am running a 64 bit quadcore system and plan to dual boot Ubuntu and Windows 7 Ultimate. However, I am torn on which filesystem to use.
I have been out of the PC craze for the past 2 years familiarizing myself with the mechanics and modifications of fast cars. Now that I have returned, much has changed that I am left to catch up with so I'm coming here for a quick answer.I am running a 1TB RAID 10 array, and do not want to split drivespace evenly for each OS. Which approach would a better idea? Should I use NTFS or EXT3? My plans for the machine are Ubuntu for everyday computing and any games that will run natively on linux.
Windows 7 will be reserved for any games that run on windows In fact, gaming is the ONLY reason I am not switching solely to a linux machine. Now, obviously each operating system and It's programs will be installed and run on It's own native filesystem NTFS for windows and EXT3 for Ubuntu. But I am torn as to which filesystem to store everything else on. Should movies, music and games be stored on an EXT3 or NTFS filesystem?curious as to the CPU utilization, access time and overall performance of both EXT3 from within windows and NTFS from within linux. Music and movies aren't really a concern but the one thing I would put emphasis on is how much would system performance be impacted when running a native linux game from within linux but on an NTFS filesystem? so, I am leaning towards EXT3 but what are the benefits of one over the other
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May 31, 2010
Ubuntu 10.4 on desktop system. Everything was working satisfactorily until...Trying to boot up after a power loss I got "ERROR: You need to load the kernel first."I tried to boot into recovery mode and got "ERROR: HD0, 1 out of disk ERROR: Couldn't read file Loading initial ramdisk ERROR: You need to load the kernel first."Next I booted with the live Ubuntu disk to see if I could mount the drive from there and got thisError mounting: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,missing codepage or helper program, or other errorIn some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
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Aug 27, 2010
how can I install 10.04 over 7.04 (which is partitioned with XP) which I want to retain WITHOUT over writing XP and WITHOUT losing my data files stored in 7.04?
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Feb 24, 2010
recommend any utilities that would check the hard drive and its contents (if they are still good) following a power outage?
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Jul 4, 2010
I'm gonna setup a dual boot with Windows 7 on my system. My partition layout will be something like this:
Win7 -> ntfs
Ubuntu (root + home) -> ext4
Swap
Data (media & documents) -> ?
What file system should I choose for the data partition? If I go with ext3/4 it seems I can access them from Win7 using a file system driver, but it seems far from safe, from what google tells me. The driver installers aren't for Win7, and I need Ext4 without extents or an ext3-fs with an inode size of 128 to make it work at all. It saddens me to ask, but should I just go with NTFS?
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Jan 5, 2011
I've recently left Windows behind for good and have come to Linux (Ubuntu.) However, I've run into problems after trying to dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu. When I restarted my computer, I got a black screen with white text reading "Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported". I have the Ubuntu live cd and was able to try Ubuntu without having to install it, but after I put in a flash drive with Windows 7 on it, the Ubuntu CD has stopped working entirely.
The weird thing is, the computer that I installed Ubuntu on, already had Ubuntu and Windows 7 on it. And every OS was booting successfully. The reason I deleted the Ubuntu that was already on the computer, is because there were many different versions. I wanted to do a clean sweep and only have Ubuntu and Windows 7 installed on the computer. I know that if you try to dual boot Windows 7 and Ubuntu, Windows will overwrite the GRUB file, making it unable to dual boot.
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May 18, 2011
Howdy, I just installed a dual boot on my Acer Aspire One and it runs great. I was wondering is there anyway to access the files from either side? If so I can't see the XP file system from the Ubuntu system.
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Jan 8, 2011
I have tried searching for the same problem but can't find it. Close but not exact. I have a dell optiplex I use for internet surfing. I do a reformat every few months to get the junk off it.I do a reformat to clean the drive and load XP PRO then load ubuntu 7. or 8. It gives me the option to use either at start up.
I did it a few weeks ago and it has been running fine until I did updates of both XP and ubuntu. When I it fired it up Win XP worked fine but when I choose ubuntu I would get the corrupted or missing hal.dll error and it wouldnt go any further. Several reboots with the same result XP works but not ubuntu.I did a reinstall of the hal.dll file using XP disk for repair according to britec on ..... (but I didn' t do the second step yet).Now I still get the corrupted or missing hal.dll error when I try to get into ubuntu and if I choose XP it freezes. I try going into safe mode and it loads but (wireless) mouse/keyboard won't work.
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May 2, 2010
Machine: Win2000 Pro, AMD64 Athlon 2GHz, 2x80Gb HD, 2 GB RAM Symptoms: Running 9.10 with dual boot no probs for ~ 1 year. Decided to upgrade online via synaptic to 10.04. Upgrade went well no warnings, etc. On reboot all OS options present in Grub BUT clicking on Win2000 causes the screen to blank temporarily and then return to the Grub menu ie. no functioning Win2000 boot option. Ubuntu 10.04 boot yields blank screen with flashing cursor, a sudden stream of IO error messages (can't capture it but the lines look identical) then screen flickers and I'm at the purple log in screen and everything proceeds perfectly from there.
Observations: For the first time on any of my ubuntu installs (i've been using since 8.04 always installing from CD though) grub installation asked where I wanted it. In fact, the screen shows all devices with check boxes wth which to make my choice. That is sdb, sdb1, sdb2, ... , sda, sda1, sda2, There was a message that says that if in doubt install on _all_. Being in doubt I checked all the boxes: sdb, sdb1, etc. I noted in the message streams that followed after i continued that some lines had "... this is BAD ..." but since it was all rolling along very quickly no idea exactly _what_ was bad.
Action: I am not a linux newb but I am a grub newb. I fished the forums and googled only to come completely confused about what the problem might be or what to do. Example: have i overwritten my win bootloader? is my mbr corrupted? if i remove grub what will happen? if i remove and reinstall grub will i get windows booting back? if i use my win2000 install CD will it overwrite my whole disk (as many warn) or can i just fix the mbr? if I do the latter what order do i ie use fix mbr then fix boot? The info i've come across so far either doesn't address what happened to me, deals with other OSs (XP, Vista), or is applied to earlier editions of grub/ubuntu. Right now I have not found a clear step by step that addresses my circumstance. Would anyone be able to provide some guidance? I need the windows boot to run some software (Matlab) that btw will not work with XP/Vista (hence the reason i still have win2k).
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Mar 18, 2011
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Oct 22, 2010
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$ cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
# menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8)
# grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8),
[code]....
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Sep 1, 2011
I am about to get a new laptop here soon and I was planning a dual boot like I have on my current laptop (Win7 and Ubuntu), but I have something special in mind. I looked around the forum to see if there was anything like what I had or if it was even possible but I didn't see anything quite like this.I was wondering if this was even possible, and if so, would anyone be able to tell me what filesystem I should use for my windows swap partition?
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May 18, 2011
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The content of grub.conf is
# grub.conf generated by anaconda
# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
# NOTICE: You do not have a /boot partition. This means that all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /, e.g.
# root (hd0,1)
# kernel /boot/vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/sda2
# initrd /boot/initrd-[generic-]version.img
#boot=/dev/sda
default=1
timeout=5
splashimage=(hd0,1)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz
hiddenmenu
title Fedora (2.6.35.6-45.fc14.i686)
root (hd0,1)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35.6-45.fc14.i686 ro root=UUID=bfc7d406-5ae3-4335-a2d8-37472dcfa7dc rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_LVM rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us rhgb quiet
initrd /boot/initramfs-2.6.35.6-45.fc14.i686.img
title Other
rootnoverify (hd1,0)
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Feb 3, 2010
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Jun 5, 2010
I am quite experienced user of Ubuntu desktop / server distributions. Recently my desktop 9.10 disk failed and I decided to reinstall using 10.04. My configuration is a dual disk dual bot system. I have XP Pro SP3 on one disk and Ubuntu 10.04 on second. XP has own, untached MBR ubuntu got Grub 2 installed on the same disk as Ubuntu. Ubuntu disk is booting first in BIOS. Grub 2 detected both system, however I can boot only to Ubuntu. When I am trying to boot XP I got black screen only. Looks like booting is stack in BIOS stage, because crt+alt+del reset system.
I read Ubuntu forum, search Google and did not come with any solutions. My XP MBR is OK. I can boot directly, choosing XP HDD in BIOS as a starting disk. All entries in grub.cfg looks fine to me. I made 3 different clear installations of Ubuntu. Each with the same result. I reinstaled Grub2 with no effect. I wonder if this may be a hardware/Grub 2 compatibility issue. I am using quite old components.My motherboard is Assus P4C800 Delux. I have 5 HDDs 2 CD. Exactly the same configuration was OK with 9.10/XP dual disk dual boot using Grub legacy.
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Aug 13, 2010
I currently have a dual boot on my 160gb hdd, but even that feels cramped. i was wondering...I have a spare 40gb harddrive compatible with my laptop. could I just install the windows 7 installation there?
assumably i'd swap in the appropriate windows 7 hdd whenever i'd want to load windows 7 at Grub.
what do you guys think?
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Dec 30, 2010
I have a (slightly complicated) dual/multi boot system.
I keep getting boot errors (when choosing ubuntu from the grub2 menu)
Code:
Serious errors were found while checking the disk drive for /boot
If I switch off and restart, ubuntu will then start without issue.
My setup is like this ....3 disks, one with 10.10 clean install - so Grub2, separate partitions for /, /boot and /home, one with windows 7, one with windows XP and 10.04 wubi (this is my old disk which I will trash once I'm happy with my upgrade to 10.10 & 7 on separate disks.
I installed 7 and 10.10 with ONLY their disks installed. After both were working, I added all disks and rejigged the grub2 menu (using update-grub and StartUp-Manager).
This problem only seems to occur if my previous boot was not 10.10 ( I will investigate this further). It's as if something (grub2 ?, the bios ?) is remembering part of the previous boot and not using the grub2 menu completely.
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May 21, 2011
Ubuntu 9.10 was set up to handle the booting selection - previously I thought it was xp but Ubuntu 9.10 "did" it. The system started out as a xp / ubuntu 9.10 dual boot on a 400gb drive. xp has 210gb, ub has 80 and their is a 100gb shared storage. Xp was installed first and then I followed a guide over at linuxconfig.org to get ub installed so that I could select which OS was wanted at boot. Ubuntu manages the boot up menu (Went back to look at my notes from the original setup) The owner tried to update to ub 11.04 and afterall was said and done the machine now boots to the message
error file not found grub rescue I can't say if 11.04 was properly installed or not. Ask whatever you like and I'll give the best answer I can. I think the xp install is okay but I can't say for certain as I don't know how to boot it outside the bootmanager at startup. Data has been saved so if I have to blow it all away and start over I can but I'm hoping I won't have to.
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