Ubuntu Installation :: Best Way For NTFS Shared Dual Boot?
Mar 2, 2011
I installed 10.04 dual boot with XP.
I used advanced partition scheme and added partitions for /, /home, /swap, and and NTFS partition mounted at /home/username/Desktop/DATA.
Unfortunately the NTFS partition was created as a "Linux (0x83)" partition and therefore is not recognized inside Windows. I did not even realize there was such a thing as Linux only (Non MS) NTFS partition. I don't even recall the details when selecting the partition type.
I tried using disk Ubuntu utility to change the type to "HPFS/NTFS (0x07)". While mounted I get error after long delay (hang) high CPU usage error "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)"
If I try the same change with DU after unmounting the volume, I get the same error.
I'm in the process of moving/backingup all data on the volume. I'll most likely reformat. Question is, shall I format with Gparted or within Windows Disk Manager? I seem to recall some odd permission problems in the past with mounted NTFS volumes.
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Jun 20, 2011
When i work in Ubuntu on a dual boot system with a shared NTFS data-partition where Windows is hibernated, and then reboot and continue working in Windows from the hibernated sesion, strange things happen. Files disappear, files that i worked on suddenly have the content of another file.
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Nov 10, 2010
I decided to tk tha plunge with ubuntu !
For this I repartitioned my harddrive (erasin org windows) into 3 drives. :
Now I want to use drive 3 as a common drive (music and pictures nd documents). Bet windows and linux.
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May 25, 2010
I have a dual-boot Fedora / WinXP laptop, and the F13 upgrade failed soon after the 'upgrade' option was selected in the menu.The problem was that the installer could not recognise the ...ntfs-3g.. entry for WinXP in /etc/fstab.The fix is simply to change this entry to ...ntfs... and the install will then proceed OK.
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Mar 7, 2009
I'm trying to achieve my dream (but indeed not perfect) boot scenario: dual-boot OpenSUSE and Fedora with shared /boot, /home and SWAP partitions. First I installed OpenSUSE (sda3 on my layout below) with separate /boot (sda2), /home (sda5, encrypted) and SWAP (sda6), next I installed Fedora on /dev/sda1, and pointed it to mount sda2, sda5, sda6 with respective mount points, without formatting. I proceeded with the installation without installing new GRUB bootloader (overwriting an existing one).
It was successfull and now I'm back in OpenSuSE trying to edit menu.lst file (under /boot/grub) to make GRUB boot Fedora.
I attached a copy of menu.lst I cooked up for now. OK, it's a mess. Life would be allot easier if I didn't have a separate /boot partition, as I could just chainload, but it's no longer possible (or is it?). May be I needed to specify the resume device or problem is in initrd? below are the contents of /boot:
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Mar 4, 2010
I am installing a custom 8.04 live disk (basically, a mirror of my whole system with user data intact, sans all non-OS files) from a USB key with remastersys for the .iso creation, and UNetbootin for the bootable USB on a brand new 120GB PATA WD HDD. Both do nicely so far, so I have a working livedisk to use until I need to install Ubuntu to the drive.
I had a pure linux box, but I need to add XP with dual booting now- I have to use Autodesk Inventor 2010 software for my college class on my laptop, so I don't drive 30 miles to use the 1 computer lab equipped with that software. I'm not new to Linux, but I am new to more in-depth partitioning. I've taken the lead and looked into things- read this good guide, among others:
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http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partitioning and noticed that there is a way to more deftly use partitions so that personal files can be shared access and write between Windows and Linux partitions- with this:
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http://www.fs-driver.org/ Ubuntu is still my main OS, but being able to access all my media/data files between the 2 systems would be nice. Problem is, until now, I've put everything on a single partition because I didn't know better. Now I do, but am a bit confused with all the guides as to what's most efficient, especially in my case where full RAM speed is crucial to running a single program.
Here's what I know I need to do: 1. The Windows XP install I know needs from 20-30GB for Inventor 2010 LT to work well. I don't need anything else in XP spacewise- it's just being added for Inventor. 2. I'd like to create a separate /home partition for Ubuntu this time to save my user data, making future upgrades much more painless (I will be getting Lucid soon). How that works when upgrading, though, I don't know yet..
3. I'd like both OSes to share all my personal files (docs, pics, music, Inventor design files) if it is an efficient choice that works without problems.
4. Finally, because 2GB is minimum for Inventor to run decently, I need to maximize the speed of my RAM for it- from my reading, these so-called "swap" partitions can somehow be added for buffering this- people seem to sugguest the swap be half the size of the RAM for fastest speed, and some say add separate /usr or other partitions. I'm not clear on what would be most efficient for me.
I have limited HDD space- because of my laptop's BIOS, this single 120GB drive is the biggest I can get on my laptop, so efficient partitioning would make a huge difference for me. Before this, a 60GB HDD was in this. I'd like to see some added space for my data storage, but still keep things as fast as possible for Inventor when I use it, and Ubuntu.
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Oct 8, 2010
I'd like the final layout to have a Windows partition (will start out as XP and will become Win7 when I can afford yet another copy), a partition for Ubuntu, and a shared Data partition that I can use for all my files between both OSs. I think this should be fairly straight forward with Linux on a Primary partition with / and swap. Only thing is, from what I've read (and yes I know this is a bit old school) it might be a good idea to put in a /Home partition so that I can reinstall new upgrades and maintain settings. But I don't want to max out my 4 primary partitions so I can use a 4th partition as a kind of sandbox for OS testing without using VirtualBox all the time.
This leaves me in need of some advice, I've never used Fdisk and I was planning on just using the Ubuntu installer to do all of this, but I don't know if I can create /Home as a logical partition in the main Ubuntu partition and still have the benefit of being able to reformat /root without losing /Home. I might have just confused myself, because no matter how many guides and How Tos I read I still don't really get extended partitions, I understand logical vs. primary but extended is...confusing. I need the Ubuntu partition to be bootable, so it needs to be a primary partition...I think. Unless I can have: /boot, /, swap, and /Home...
Also, if Ubuntu can read NTFS, and Win7 can read Ext3, what should a do with /Data? Or should I just go with FAT32 and be done with it. (It's a big HDD btw, 640 GB, so /Data will be fairly large)
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Feb 23, 2011
I am attempting to install Maverick on an older pc. It has (2) mirrored 153 GB SATA drives. I set aside 33GB for a linux partition, by shrinking the partition in Vista.
Choosing to "Install along side windows" is not an available option. I can only choose use who disk, or use empty area. I choose use the empty area, and the Ubiquity installer gets hung up when attempting to format the empty space as EXT4. When I scroll up on the output I notice some error messages referencing NTFS. When I use Gparted it shows a possible problem.
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Warning:
The device /dev/sda1 doesn't exist
ntfsresize v2.0.0 (libntfs 10:0:0
ERROR(2):Failed to check 'dev/sda1' mount state: No such
file or directory
Probably /etc/mtab is missing. It's too risky to continue. You
might try an another Linux ditro.
Unable to read the contents of this file system!Because of this some operations may be unavailable.
The following list of software packages is required for ntfs file system support: ntfsprogs.
I ran chkdsk /r on the Vista partiton, in case there was a problem there. The issue still persists.
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Mar 8, 2011
I currently run Linux Mint as sole OS and with a separate /home partition. I have a small (12GB) unused partition on my HDD where I would like to install Ubuntu 10.10. I have a lot of data on my /home partition and instead of giving Ubuntu its own separate /home partition I just want it to share the same /home partition as Mint.
I realize that I can get access to all my home files from Ubuntu anyway but I thought it would make more sense to have both OS�s use the same /home partition.
Then I got to thinking that perhaps this may not be a good idea at all. I am not sure how this all works but I got worried that this may cause some incompatibilities that I do not know about.
Question: Is this a good idea? If yes, how do I need to go about installing Ubuntu, meaning that should I then during the installing process choose the empty partition to be used as / only and the current /home also as the Ubuntu /home? without formatting it so as not to loose my data? Or is there a correct/safer way to do this?
(Just as explanation, I like both Mint 10 and Ubuntu 10,10, and both run very stable on my system. I use my computer for work and need a stable system, but as we all know sometimes things can go wrong and mostly after a new update. So my thinking is that when I have both Distro`s on my laptop and one crashes I could still boot from the other and save the day.)
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Mar 4, 2011
So I got a brand new macbook pro yesterday, and I like it! But I really don't want to go "all mac" at this point, so want to make this machine dual boot with Ubuntu.
It occurs to me that what I *should* be able to do is partiton the hard drive something like so:
And a /swap partition in there as well, of course. The point being that I'm thinking it should be possible to edit /etc/fstab to mount sda4 (above) to /home when I boot up under Ubuntu, and have OSX mount the same partition to /Users when I boot into OSX, thus allowing me to access all user data easily in either OS.
However, I don't know much about macs...
So I'm thinking I'm looking at two issues. First, what filesystem should I format /dev/sda4 (above) as if I want this to work? Does OSX support ext4, or would I be better off trying to get HFS+ support under Ubuntu?
Second, what would be required to get OSX to mount /dev/sda4 to /Users at boot? That is, what is the OSX equivalent of editing /etc/fstab?
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Oct 24, 2010
Here's the breakdown of my Hard Drive:
Partition 1: Windows 7 - NTFS
Partition 2: Ubuntu 10.10 - Ext4
Partition 3: Data - NTFS
Partition 4: Windows Recovery - meh...
Basically, I have it so that I have one large NTFS partition (Data) for sharing files between Ubuntu and Windows. It works very well. I keep all my Documents, Music, Pictures and Videos on "Data" and then sym-link those folders to my home folder on Ubuntu. Unfortunately, I'm afraid to bootup Windows. Sometimes when I boot Windows, files that I made or edited in Ubuntu get lost, unindexed or corrupt. It happens very frequently with image files (.jpeg, .png, etc.) but also happens with PDFs and folders. This means that not only do these files become unusable, but I also can't delete them. Even using $ rm -rf my_file returns a "Cannot delete my_file. It is not a file or directory."
The only way to get rid of these files is to perform a CHKDSK on Data when I boot Windows. CHKDSK always finds a shed-load of files that have gone haywire. I'm usually greeted by an seemingly indefinite list of "Removing index entry xyz from $afxyz" and other scary looking actions being taken out on my files.I keep backups of my files on an external HDD and a remote server, but it's no use when I'm backing up corrupt files.
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Jul 18, 2010
I have a dual boot of Ubuntu 10.04 and Windows 7. I have 2 hard drives on the system, a 500GB and a 1TB drive.
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root@akashi-desktop:~# fdisk -l
Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x3e67485a .....
Since the drive (sdb2) was already mounted I was able to see "file" show up on the NTFS drive (sdb2) with the last command above. After I rebooted onto Windows 7, I found my F: drive (sdb2) showing up as a RAW filesystem. Windows 7 asks to reformat and I press NO as I have a lot of files on that drive. I rebooted onto Ubuntu again, during boot it says cannot mount to /dev/sdb2 and to press "S" to skip. I pressed "S" and saw sdb2 not mounted. I tried this command:
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root@akashi-desktop:~# mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb2 /media/sdb2
NTFS signature is missing.
Failed to mount '/dev/sdb2': Invalid argument
The device '/dev/sdb2' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS.
Maybe the wrong device is used? Or the whole disk instead of a partition (e.g. /dev/sda, not /dev/sda1)? Or the other way around?
How to fix this drive without formatting it! fdisk shows the filesytem as NTFS so it must still be fixable I hope.
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Aug 26, 2009
i have windows xp with ntfs partitions on my laptop i want to install centos on it will i be able to dual boot centos with windows xp on the ntfs partition
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Jul 19, 2009
I have a dual boot system with XP and CentOS 5.3, I want to access the NTFS partitions of XP from CentOS but how?
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Jun 5, 2010
I am quite experienced user of Ubuntu desktop / server distributions. Recently my desktop 9.10 disk failed and I decided to reinstall using 10.04. My configuration is a dual disk dual bot system. I have XP Pro SP3 on one disk and Ubuntu 10.04 on second. XP has own, untached MBR ubuntu got Grub 2 installed on the same disk as Ubuntu. Ubuntu disk is booting first in BIOS. Grub 2 detected both system, however I can boot only to Ubuntu. When I am trying to boot XP I got black screen only. Looks like booting is stack in BIOS stage, because crt+alt+del reset system.
I read Ubuntu forum, search Google and did not come with any solutions. My XP MBR is OK. I can boot directly, choosing XP HDD in BIOS as a starting disk. All entries in grub.cfg looks fine to me. I made 3 different clear installations of Ubuntu. Each with the same result. I reinstaled Grub2 with no effect. I wonder if this may be a hardware/Grub 2 compatibility issue. I am using quite old components.My motherboard is Assus P4C800 Delux. I have 5 HDDs 2 CD. Exactly the same configuration was OK with 9.10/XP dual disk dual boot using Grub legacy.
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Jun 19, 2010
I dual boot, in the process of installing Windows 7 & Fedora 13 on a new drive. Back in the day when it was risky for the newbie to read/write NTFS, I created a "shared" FAT32 partition. Even though the later Fedoras could read/write NTFS fresh out of the box, I have kept the "shared" partition for my important files (email, documents, digital camera pics).
Now that I'm installing Win7 and Fedora 13 on a new hard drive and I'm partitioning my disk, I'm scratching my head trying to decide how I should format this partition. I was considering the FAT32 again, but I'd like 50GB, not just 32. At the same time, I'm thinking of making the size sacrifice because, and maybe this is just carryover from the olden days and groundless, I have an irrational worry about using NTFS for my most important files.Maybe someone could assuage my fears. Is it just as safe, at this point, for files to be on a NTFS partition and run under Fedora as they are under FAT32?
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Dec 30, 2010
I have a (slightly complicated) dual/multi boot system.
I keep getting boot errors (when choosing ubuntu from the grub2 menu)
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Serious errors were found while checking the disk drive for /boot
If I switch off and restart, ubuntu will then start without issue.
My setup is like this ....3 disks, one with 10.10 clean install - so Grub2, separate partitions for /, /boot and /home, one with windows 7, one with windows XP and 10.04 wubi (this is my old disk which I will trash once I'm happy with my upgrade to 10.10 & 7 on separate disks.
I installed 7 and 10.10 with ONLY their disks installed. After both were working, I added all disks and rejigged the grub2 menu (using update-grub and StartUp-Manager).
This problem only seems to occur if my previous boot was not 10.10 ( I will investigate this further). It's as if something (grub2 ?, the bios ?) is remembering part of the previous boot and not using the grub2 menu completely.
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May 30, 2010
Someone on IRC had mentioned they had a shared partition in NTFS, and that Ubuntu could read from it just fine... I wanted to get a second opinion before I did anything. Right now I have a WinXP partition and an Ubuntu partition, and a large NTFS partition in the middle that I'd like to move my /home to.
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Mar 23, 2010
I had a dual boot machine with fedora 12 and windows vista and I could use grub boot-loader to switch between two. Few days ago windows got corrupt and I have to reinstall it. I put windows 7 now and as usual it erased grub. So to reinstall I put the fedora 12 installation CD on and followed some usual setup steps. When I got the command line I issued the command "grub-install /dev/sda" (sda not hda because It showed bunch of sda, sda1..) but surprisingly it said grub command not found. I remember doing it before while it worked fine.
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Apr 27, 2010
I currently use my PC for work, music [I'm a DJ by profession], and gaming. It's got good specs and I've recently gotten a 500GB hard drive for it. I've installed Ubuntu 10.04 [using the 9.10 CD and running update-manager --devel-release]. However, in my infinite foresight, I installed Ubuntu to take up the whole drive, /home and all. I've only used about 80GB of space in /home so backing it up to start off a triple boot shouldn't be a problem.
Currently, my partitioning is /dev/sda1 at 494GB [ext3, mounted as /], /dev/sda2 is a 6.2GB extended partition, and /dev/sda5 is a 6.2GB swap partition. Basically, I need to do the following things, but don't know the least hacky way around it.
1) Repartition to make the Ubuntu's root filesystem take up ~40GB of space
2) Probably have the swap partition immediately after / (is the other extended partition even necessary?)
3) Install Windows 7 to use for gaming in a 60GB partition
4) Windows XP to use for music production in another 60GB part
5) Have the rest of the space on the hard drive formatted as NTFS & used for documents for Windows 7 (as D:), Windows XP (also as D:), and Ubuntu (used as /home/saxon).
Any pointers? I've searched around but I couldn't find anyone else with my exact problem - most people have Windows installed first and only want a dual boot. I'm fairly comfortable with the shell so I'm not too bothered about using Term either. Sorry if I've worded this awfully or seemed like a bit of an idiot
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Jan 18, 2010
Have just installed 9.10, again, many failed attempts previously.Cannot get to boot up and show menu on dual boot with Vista initially,However when I delete the grubenv file the system boots ok and works fine.But does not show the grub menu to choose boot up choices.Got the information to delete the file on some posts elsewhere about booting problem, and tried a longshot and got into Ubuntu for the first time from trying to install now for 3 months!The problem is the file grubenv is created each time so on subsequent boot ups the sytem fails to boot again.The Grub version is 1.97 beta 4, most up to date for Karmic I think, I have seen a version 1.98 but dont think its for Karmic?
Is there a way to modify the grub.cfg file to stop this problem ( all posts say dont touch this file??Or install a script to delete the grubenv file on shutdown as a workaround for me, (I have no idea how to do this whatsoever, I'm not familiar with linux at all)I did read that this problem was fixed/patched in Grub version 2, but dosn't seem.so on my system afetr I updated it when I got into Ubuntu.I couldnt find the patch or fix, I got the information I am on about from this post:URL...It seems to say it was fixed or patched by Colin Watson reading through, but I don't really understand whats being said or how to get the patch on my system if indeed there is one?Sorry for being a bit thick about all this, its a bit beyond my brain now, hope somebody can help out as I have enjoyed my brief bit of fun in Ubuntu.
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Jul 8, 2010
I have a netbook running Windows XP as standard. There is also a recovery partition which came from the factory.
In the past I installed Ubuntu (I think 9.something) from USB key and all worked fine. However my XP became corrupted and I needed to do a repair on it. After this, Ubuntu became removed from the boot select menu.
Since then, Ubuntu has become updated to 10.04, which I now cannot install.
The Live CD tells me there is a "file IO error" and simply stops installation at around 70%.
I did manage to get into Ubuntu from a Live USB using Wubi. However when I chose to install Ubuntu to a Harddrive, the option to "install side by side" was missing.
After reading on the forums, I did a chkdsk /f on Windows and tried again. Now my liveUSB does not show a boot menu!
When I select to boot from USB stick, the screen goes blank with a flashing cursor. Ctrl+alt+dlt reboots.
I'm really lost here! It seems when I fix one problem, another problem arises!
Also when trying to instal Ubuntu within Windows, the process goes through to 100% and asks me to reboot. When I do so, the option for Ubuntu does show in the boot menu. However when I select it, I get an error "Windows boot failed: file wubildr.mbr and status: 0xc00000f - something is corrupt".
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Jul 18, 2010
I have Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and Windows XP installed on my laptop. Usually when booting, I get the GRUB 2 menu and I can boot into either Ubuntu or XP.I was playing around with EasyBCD, then after trying to remove it I was unable to boot into Windows, I used a Windows 2000 CD recovery console to fix the MBR (using: fixboot and fixmbr).Now Windows starts up when I power on, but I don't get the grub menu anymore with an Ubuntu option. If I boot from the Ubuntu Live CD and try to mount my Ubuntu partition (/dev/sda5) I get this error:
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda5,
missing codepage or helper program, or other error
In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
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Feb 10, 2010
I recently got a netbook and setup as dual boot between win7 starter and 9.10 (64bit). Win 7 starter is not impressive so i want to nuke it and give the space all to my /USR partion. I am comfortable working with Gparted and assume that i can launch using my gparted live usb and delete the windows partion and then resize the /usr partion.
what changes do i need to make w/ Grub2? I would prefer not to see the Grub menu at all and have it load right the main kernel if possible. Also, if this is possible is there a way to get to the Grub menu during boot should i need to select a different kernel?
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May 7, 2010
I have just installed Ubuntu 10.4 x64 onto a machine with Vista Ultimate x64. When I boot the machine, the Windows option comes up in the GRUB menu. However, when I attempt to boot Windows, I receive the following error: No such device: de80ab9f80ab7d21. error: No such partition. Press any key to continue...
I looked around and found a similar issue at [URL] However, before trying to fix the issue by guesswork or via solutions that worked for a similar, though not necessarily identical problem. I've run the boot info script (see output below) mentioned several places on this site as a valuable input for boot problem tracking. how to get Windows to boot on my computer?
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Oct 18, 2010
I have searched and read threads about the Bitlocker, grub and TPM issues that might show up, but I can't draw any conclusions as some information contradict each other. To make sure I don't screw up my pc as thought I need to make a new post.
At work I'm supposed to run Windows 7 and encrypt the win-partition with Bitlocker. I have installed Windows, turned on the encryption and it ties into the TPM. But as I am moving over to the *nix department I want to run Ubuntu as dual boot to check everything rusn fine with all the systems I need. Before I installed Windows I partioned the disk:
1,5 GB for system/bitlocker requirement
147 GB for Windows, C:
85 GB which is empty where I intend to install Ubuntu (not formated yet)
I boot into Windows with my bitlocker/TPM key on an USB-stick. Without the usb-stick the pc won't boot. Now, before I try to install Ubuntu I want to make sure to do it the right so I don't mess up the Windows installation or won't be able to boot the pc at all.
There seem to be several "schools" to this. Some suggest I should have installed Ubuntu first, then Windows and then encrypt. Some say, no worries just fire away and install since you are not planning to read the windows-partition from Ubuntu. Or an alternative, install but make sure to deactive the encryption during installation. Some say, install but make sure grub is installed in (multiple choices) location.
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Nov 8, 2010
I'm trying to dual boot Win7 and Ubuntu WITHOUT using Grub. This is to support Bitlocker encryption.
I followed this guide, and now when I select Ubuntu I get a Grub> prompt and no ubuntu.
I feel like I'm halfway there, I just need to get Grub to load correctly or something.
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Jan 5, 2011
if having a boot partition is recommended for dual boot installation of Ubuntu 10.04 and Windows 7 and why?
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Feb 15, 2010
After installing karmic with Grub2 I am unable to boot into Archlinux partition. Grub2 has removed the last line of the Archlinux boot stanza! It used to read:-
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Following the Grub2 tutorials I have tried editing /etc/grub.d/40_custom as follows:-
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But no luck. Only way into Archlinux is to get into the edit shell and manually add the missing line and remove other stuff not needed. I have spent hours trying to resolve this issue and I am fairly p----d off
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Jun 5, 2010
I am ready to reclaim the disk space that is currently being used by XP in my dualboot scenario. Per the Gparted scan below, my hard drive is currently being sequenced as sda1 (NTFS data only, which I mounted in Ubuntu and write my working documents to), sda2 (XP operating system/boot drive). Ubuntu is on sda3, with home on sda4. I'm currently running 9.10.
I would like to eliminate the contents of sda2, and migrate sda1 contents to ext4. Question is, what are the best steps. I have good backups of everything, and sync my NTFS data to a NAS.
My grub.cfg looks as follows (am running 1.97)
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