Fedora :: Yum Upgrade From Fc11 To Fc12, NO Clean Install?
May 10, 2010
kpackagekit warned me about a distribution upgrade to FC12in order to set things in motion i have to press the upgrade button is this action completely safe?since my FC11 is working like a charm, and i consider to upgrade to FC13, depending on the fact if i can build kernel drivers for kernel 2.6.32-,, that is still in the testing repo'smy idea is to upgrade all available packages from testing when fc11 is EOL, and i will see what happends after this upgrade, if my system crashes or whats so ever, i will install FC13.
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Nov 24, 2009
Was using preupgrade from FC11x64 to 12x64. Preupgrade caused alot of problems like /boot not enough diskspace. After some searching found the steps and preupgrade proceed happily but after reboot got kernel panic grrr.
Took 3 days to find another machine to download and burn the FC12x64 disk. So I booted via the FC12x64 disk and selected the 1st option to install/upgrade. I thought it is upgrade and so choose replace my existing linux system however it wiped out everything on the disk. I have some important data in my home directory. I think it is in LVM, not a partition like /dev/sda1. How can I recover them? Was using stock settings.
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Nov 23, 2009
Pulseaudio setup. My pulseaudio was working when I was using FC11 and it stops working after I upgrade to FC12 using preupgrade. The system sees audio device and alsa is working correctly. No audio at all (system audio and mplayer) from Pulseaudio. I am using the onboard Intel audio. The verify from the alsamixer that the volume is not muted. I also tries all the combination of profiles in the pavucontrol and in some of the profiles, I can see the output volume bar is moving, but still no sound
pulseaudio-0.9.19-2.fc12.x86_64
alsa-plugins-pulseaudio-1.0.21-2.fc12.x86_64
Attached is the pulseaudio log when playing video from mplayer.
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Jan 4, 2010
I have try to install fedora 11 with windows XP dual boot, but when fedora 11 is install, it will compeletly remove the already installed windows XP, while fedora 8, it works nice with windows XP, and is good dual boot OS at the same time.if any thing is new in fedora 11 or 12 with respect to dual booting,
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Mar 4, 2010
What to do? After preupgrade and update fc11->fc12, system has a mixture (oh yeah) of fc11 packages and fc12 new ones. Dependencies problems, and even by removing, reinstalling packages sometimes it's picking up fc11 ones.I tried yum clean etc to no avail. Is there any script or anything to solve this automatically? I suppose the solution is to manually erase all the fc11 packages (assuming they are really installed and not simply reported as such)?
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Apr 7, 2010
I have programs that work in FC10 and FC12, but when I run them on FC11, i get behaviour that is very similar to a deadlock. They don't crash or anything. It just seems that all program output stops at one point and never resumes. I am wondering if FC11 has any known threading issues that one may need to know about before trying to use it to run their software from FC10 or FC12. Maybe something in the way that threading is handled differently from FC10 or FC12 that is not necessarily a problem, but just needs to be kept in mind when writing code for FC11.
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Dec 20, 2009
I installed FC11 from installation cds twice and I'm having a problem with Firefox freezing the system. The mouse cursor will move but nothing else is responsive, including mouse buttons and keyboard.I checked the media on every disc and they all check fine.I never had this problem with FC10. I tried upgrading Firefox -- with the necessary dependency upgrades too but without success.I tried to downgrade to FC10 Firefox and ran into a great big hassle with that.
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Jun 1, 2010
I did a clean install of fedora 13 on my sys, however when i run
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rpm -qa |grep fc12
lots of and lots of fc12 packages pop up. below is the list. if there is fc13 version of these packages, and if there is (which I suspect for at least some of them there should be) why my sys doesn't update to those packages?
here is the list of fc12 packages:
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~$ rpm -qa |grep fc12
ctan-cm-lgc-fonts-common-0.5-17.fc12.noarch
plexus-compiler-1.5.2-4.3.fc12.noarch
texlive-texmf-errata-fonts-2007-7.fc12.noarch
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Jun 22, 2009
I've been running FC10 with all updates and had downloaded the FC11 DVD. Yesterday I upgraded to FC 11 using the DVD and it appeared that everything went fine. However when I tried to do ayum updateI got the following error. There was a problem importing one of the Python modules required to run yum. The error leading to this problem was:
No module named yum
install a package which provides this module, or verify that the module is installed correctly.
It's possible that the above module doesn't match the current version of Python, which is:
2.6 (r26:66714, Mar 17 2009, 11:44:14)
[GCC 4.4.0 20090313 (Red Hat 4.4.0-0.26)]
go to the yum faq at: [URL] I'm not sure what to do next. I also noticed that all my previously configured repositories are lost.
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Jul 12, 2009
Just upgraded from FC10 using the DVD using upgrade option. I got all the way through the upgrade with no problems. However, upon reboot, when I get to my login screen, I sign in with my username and password but I get an error about kstartup manager. I think the gist of the message was it is missing and I think the error # was 127 (I think). KDE will not start. I also tried XFCE, but it will not start also.
What should I do?
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Oct 29, 2009
I've just upgraded from FC10 to FC11 (x86_64). Before the upgrade Firefox worked fine (it used a fair amount of ram but I typically have loads of tabs open :P ) but since the upgrade running Firefox maxes out my cpu. The whole system runs unusably slow if I have Firefox running now. I switched from KDE to LXDE and just ran Firefox to see if I could free up enough memory to save some tabs as bookmarks and close them but it's impossible (and not a permanent solution anyway). Konqueror runs blisteringly fast but with a cpu monitor running I can see starting Firefox just maxes out the cpu and it stays there, it's not just a heavy load at startup.I have 3GB ram and it's a dual core Centrino 2GHz so it's not an old system running out of resources and FF ran perfectly well under FC10.
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Feb 23, 2010
I install CentOS 5.4 on a customer's workstation. They out-of-date nature of Enterprise is not at all working out for him. Since Enterprise is essentially FC6, is it possible to just upgrade him to FC12, or am I looking at a wipe and reinstall?
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Apr 25, 2011
I have 10.10 Desktop right now.. and was considering the 11.04 beta 2 upgrade. However, when 11.04 comes out.. first.. will I be able to update to 11.04 final from 11.04 beta (if so is that automatic.. or do I need to do clean install)? Second, will the 11.04 beta 2 upgrade.. as well as the 11.04 final release.. remove/replace old 10.10 stuff.. or is an upgrade going to leave a lot of stuff around and thus a clean install is the best way to go?
I have a lot of stuff.. bookmarks, tools, data, etc on my linux box.. and while I do have a 2nd drive that I can move stuff to, if the upgrade path is as clean (or almost as clean) as a clean install, I am fine with that. I recall from Windows upgrades, there is generally a lot of remnants left behind that can slow things down or just sit around taking up space for no good reason. So I want to avoid anything like that if possible.
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Jun 11, 2009
I just upgraded via preupgrade-cli (from FC10), rebooted, the upgrade process completed, then the system rebooted and I just see a blinking white cursor now.I was able to boot up from a live cd of FC11, but I'm not sure how I can repair the system.
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Jul 6, 2009
I cannot seem to get past the "creating File System.." window on a laptop upgrade
Setup: Thinkpad T23 (dual boot) upgrade from fc10 using DVD iso.checked with checksum and burnt by K3b.
History/actions taken:
Burnt iso to DVD and install/upgrade froze "creating File System " froze after approximately 10 minutes.
(completely froze and had to use the power button!)
Checked disk OK on laptop, tried again, same fault.
Bought another DVD.(different die) and tried again, same fault.
Tried another laptop HD, (full install not dual boot) , same fault.
Removed partitions with fdisk, but still no luck.
Tried disk on a spare HD on my PC and it works, I get into the window allowing software selection!
Tried a "Linux Format" fc 10 disk and that works, also tried a PCLinux LXF disk which also worked.
The laptop does not report any problems at bootup and I do not not what else to try
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Jul 8, 2009
I'm having a problem getting BIND to start after doing the FC10->FC11 upgrade. Others have been reporting some bad symbolic links, but this isn't that problem. I've searched the forums here, but I don't see anything like this anywhere.
Here's what I see:
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[root@atomu etc]# /etc/init.d/named start
Starting named: [FAILED]
So, no error message. Logs read as follows:
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Jul 8 00:38:00 atomu named[2414]: starting BIND 9.6.1-RedHat-9.6.1-2.fc11 -u named
Jul 8 00:38:00 atomu named[2414]: built with '--build=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' '--host=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' '--target=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' '--program-prefix=' '--prefix=/usr' '--exec-prefix=/usr' '--bindir=/usr/bin' '--sbindir=/usr/sbin' '--sysconfdir=/etc'
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Jan 12, 2010
I have a Broadcom wireless card in my hp dv6500z laptop, I had it all working properly in FC9 thanks to bbfuller and his post on the subject. After I upgraded to FC11 I have been unable to get it to connect.
I can see my neighbor's sites and suppose I could see my own if the SSID was allowed to broadcast but I keep that turned off. I put in all of the setting, including the network security key, but it won't connect, then when I go back and look again, the security key is not even close to what I put in; it gets changed to a huge string of characters.
I redownloaded broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz2.tar and followed the instruction on the post once again but no luck, which, after I thought about it, was a waste of time because if I can see other's wireless, then the card must be working. I have tried using Network Manager and not using Network Manager and still no luck...
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Apr 4, 2010
Have been having my share of (nvidia) problems since last kernel update to fc11. Just can't seem to get x-server to work...
(Seems to me that I have had better luck with the 173xx legacy driver..Should I try that?...which one?..
I'm thinking: 173.14.20-1)...
Information; fc11 Leonidas i586 32 bit ..nvidia GeForce 7300 LE....ViewSonic VX922 19" LCD monitor
[root@Xray ~]# rpm -qa | grep -i nvid | sort
kmod-nvidia-190.53-1.fc11.4.i586
kmod-nvidia-2.6.30.10-105.2.23.fc11.i586-190.53-1.fc11.4.i586
nvidia-settings-1.0-3.2.fc11.i586
nvidia-xconfig-1.0-1.fc11.i586
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Have blacklisted Nouveau in Modpobe... (Haven't done anything to grub.conf)... Have also tried to go the akmod route; but have never been able to make it work..
Have followed the instructions from Post 2 at the beginning of this thread; but I do get a message that says: "No package xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.x86_64 available". I do have both rpmfusion repositories downloaded..
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Nov 28, 2009
I decided to upgrade finally. It didn't go smoothly and right now I'm not really sure what is going on. During the install when it was scanning my disks it threw a timeout error but continued anyway. I completed the install but one thing that seemed odd to me is that I wasn't asked about packages or anything and it never prompted me for any other CDs. I wasn't sure what was going on. I did a re-install but same results.
So I figured fine I'll just configure things myself. I went to mount my other partitions and was unable to. I'm not sure what was done but I've not been able to get to my old data. I'm not even sure where to start because things are so different. I ran fdisk -l and I see these devices:
/dev/sda
/dev/sdb
/dev/dm-0
/dev/dm-1
Under /dev/sda It shows /dev/sda1 but tells me that partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary it then shows /dev/sda2. This has a System of Linux LVM. Same with my /dev/sdb1. I am guessing this is where my 2 old partitions went. I looked up LVM which I didn't know anything about before. Previously I was about to mount my partitions directly so I'm pretty sure they were not LVM. So somehow these got converted?
I don't know what /dev/dm-0 and /dev/dm-1 are but I do get errors on them:
Disk /dev/dm-0 doesn't contain a valid partition table
Disk /dev/dm-1 doesn't contain a valid partition table
Right now I'm trying to simply get to my data once again or determine if it's unrecoverable. At this point I'm at a loss as to how to proceed. I know I didn't tell the install to format anything other than the first partition. Oh and after the two Fedora installs I did take a peek at Unbuntu. I started that install and it told me that the partition I was installing on was too small. So I canceled it. It showed the other partitions but I could see no way to read them.
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Dec 6, 2009
After upgrading from FC10 to FC12 here I notice I cannot login to the GUO console locally as root, yet this worked with FC10. Attached is my /etc/gdm/custom.conf settings and I've got the login for root set true whih is where it was and working prior to the upgrade.. Also I don't see the shutdown/restart options as before either:
[daemon]
AutomaticLoginEnable=false
AutomaticLogin=
TimedLoginEnable=false
TimedLogin=
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Mar 18, 2010
I had 8.4 hardy heron and I've been upgrading from within up to the most recent upgrade to 9.10.Was it better to do a clean install from the cd
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Aug 2, 2009
How can I force the upgrade FC10 -> FC11 with online download? Somewhere in Software Update settings?
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Dec 6, 2009
After upgrading to FC12 from FC10 the 3 samba shares on the box cannot be connected to from either Windows-7 or Windows Server 2003R2. Both were working with FC10 just fine.
It is local authentication to the box not LDAP etc. Files below and error msg:
attempting to connect to say \saturngeorgek gets an error in a windows popup with Unknown username or bad password yet I'm certain of the ID & password as I can ssh in with it from Windows-7
In 2003 I see "Multiple connections to the same server or shared resource by the same user using more than one name are not allowed disconnect all previous connections and tr again."
In neither case do I have any connections to the saturn server that I can see using net use from either box.
smb.conf
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[global]
workgroup = netwrx1
server string = Saturn RHFC4 Linux Server
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Dec 11, 2009
I have just upgraded to FC 12 from FC 11 everything on FC 11 was fine, I has samba, openvpn, subversion, tinyproxy and apache all working fine. Friends could vpn in and do all the stuff they where allowed to do,
Now unfortunately I have this issue after upgrading to FC12, All the samba mounts have disappeared from all my friends computers, when I look at the log files I now see this;
smbd/server.c:457(smbd_open_one_socket)
smbd_open_once_socket: open_socket_in: Address already in use
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May 26, 2010
Took an FC12 system to FC13 via 'preupgrade'There was a REALLY old version of gimp-print-cups in RPM, and the installer announced "a fatal error occurred". However, everything else seemed to download properly and I allowed the upgrader to reboot the system.
a) grub boots the kernel, then the kernel can't find root and panics. It does this because it can't root file system with root=UUID= kernel option. If I manually tweek the grub line to use root=/dev/sdx, kernel finds its root and boots up to the next problem.
b) GUI environment not launched. Init scripts die on "error loading modules.dep". Sure enough - one is not there. Ran "depmod" to generate it ,and rebooted. System reboots into GUI, where I login to find the next problem.
c) Evolution won't start. Reason turns out the evolution-data-server from FC12 is still present. Did a check on just how many other FC12 RPM's are present: 1100. Yeah - over 1000. About 850 of the FC12 RPM's also had FC13 replacements installed. Did an "rpm -e" on these. Also had to do some remove action on mkinitrd, nash, plymouth-scripts-0.8.0, and parted-1.9.0 as there are replacements for these utilities under different package names. That cleaned up the system some, to present me with the next problem.
d) yum package repository still linked into FC12. Removed fedora-release-12-2.noarch and then I could "yum install" evolution and a few other packages properly.
I've done one other FC12->FC13 upgrade today, and that went flawlessly. So, I think in general the upgrade works fine. It just looks like if preupgrade finds anything amiss, it doesn't take care of a lot of things and generally leaves you with an unbootable mess to clean up.
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Jun 7, 2010
I had a fairly smooth upgrade process using PreUpgrade on my main workstation, but I still have a huge bunch of fc12, some of which have fc13 analogs installed, some of which don't (a total of 317 packages). Also, I still have the Constantine gdm theme, probably as a symptom of these lingering packages. Can I just yum erase these? Do I need to check which have analogs in fc13? I don't know which step of the upgrade I forgot, but it seems I'm stuck somewhere in between, although
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joel@localhost: ~> cat /etc/fedora-release
Fedora release 13 (Goddard)
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Feb 4, 2010
I'm currently using Ubuntu Jaunty, and am considering upgrading to Karmic. Is there any advantage to backing up my data and clean-sheet installing a newer version, or is the upgrade path through the update manager sufficient? Would a clean install carry less baggage coding-wise?
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Apr 14, 2010
I have a compaq nx7010. It started out with 8.04 or perhaps 8.10. I upgraded it through to 9.04 when that became available. I have not upgraded to 9.10 year, because I recall it took me a fair amount of time to get my system working correctly after the 9.04 upgrade. At a guess, audio went down, wifi broke, and that sort of thing. I am now finding that apps I use are not releasing new versions compatible with 9.04. And I see 10.04 is on its way, and I understand it is best to go from one upgrade to the next rather than jump a release.
Here's my question:
I get the impression it is cleaner and more stable to do a clean install as opposed to an upgrade. I've also seen many people expressing that view. I've always just gone with upgrading because I didn't like the thought of having to set my whole computer up the way I like it, again. Is there a way to do a clean install that will keep my system the way I like it? For instance, to not have to reconfigure every application?
I have my partitions set up like this:
ext3 /home
ext3 /
linuxswap
Just how much config related stuff is stored in the /home folder? Or is this purely user files? What is the consensus? Is it better to upgrade or to do a clean install? My intention is to have a stable system that does not require hours of my time to get sound and wifi working, with the latest release on it (so that I can run the latest apps).
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Dec 7, 2010
I have tried to do a clean install of 10.10 on a system that previously had 9.4 on it. Did not do an upgrade just requested a clean install of UBUNTU. Install proceeds to create user name/password page then just stops. Install line below says ready when you are but I do not get a forward to come up on the screen, it just sits there. I have used different hard drives and a different cdrom drive and 2 different installation disks and it does the same thing.
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Jan 23, 2010
After the Upgrade of my Fedora Insatallation (FC 10 => 12) I have some problems with Gnome and the Login via console. The system actually boots fine and all kind of services like Postfix, IMAP, Samba, SSHD, Apache, etc. are avialable normally.
If I try however to work directly on the server I only see the completed Fedora progress icon and not as hoped for, the Login to Gnome. Also the attempt to change to a plain console with ALT-CTRL-F1 fails.
Since actually everything seems to work quite fine, I am somewhat helpless, according to should I look for, to get Gnome and the Console Login working again.
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