Ubuntu :: 9.10 And 10.10 Legacy Hardware?
Apr 21, 2011
Legacy Hardware I have a chunk of hardware I bought in 2005 that came with Windoze verzhun Whatever. Very soon after buying it I decided to discard the trash that came with it, and installed Mandrake. I lived with Mandrake for a while until I decided to install Debian. Debian lasted me very well, until Lenny became Squeeze.All of a sudden, my hardware was slow. I couldn't keep up. Lenny had seen my applications crash more and more often, but Squeeze just couldn't keep me in the race. I chose to go to Ubuntu.
With my hardware, Ubuntu 10.10 just would not see my disks. Ubuntu 9.10 could not install grub. I tried everything - take a look at a google forum that I didn't look at, if you can.Ubuntu 8.04 loads and runs without any special work. I suggest that Ubuntu 9.10 and 10.10 have special hardware requirements.
root@gizmo:~# lshw
gizmo
description: Desktop Computer
product: System Product Name
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Jan 2, 2011
I have an ATI Radeon 9200 AGP card. I plan to upgrade it mainly because the 2D performance in KDE (3.x without Beryl or Compiz) is just bad. Since we are talking about a relatively old desktop, I do not want to completely upgrade it. So, I want to just upgrade the VGA card. I have found the following cards: Nvidia GeForce 6200
Radeon HD 2400 Pro
Radeon X1600 Pro Avivo Edition
Now, the simple question: Their prices are just OK (just a couple of � separate them). Which chip is better? And which chip is better supported from our beloved distro?
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Jul 17, 2010
I had Arch Linux installed on my machine on sda1 and the Grub legacy that came on their install image on the MBA at sda/. I just did a Ubuntu update and it wanted me to do an update and me thinking grub-install referred to grub legacy, went along with it but now I have Grub2 for my boot menu. There are a few guides on restoring Grub2 I've found but how do I put Grub back on to how I had it? (I thought installing grub legacy from Arch's usb image I have would be simple and fairly automated/easy but it won't let me without doing the previous steps of partitioning drives and selecting packages to install and such so it looks like I'm going to have to do it manually which I haven't done before).
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Dec 18, 2010
My laptop came with Vista and I added Linux Mint 6 (based on Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex) all is good for a year or so. Added Ubuntu 10.10 to my desktop, loved it, wanted to add it to my laptop...oops.
Installed the main version from a LiveCD, did the the easy multi-OS installation.
GRUB-0.97 is what boots my system though looking at boot script I do have GRUB2 somewhere.
Currently, my boot options are:
1. Mint 6
2. Mint 6 (recovered)
3. Mint 6
4. Mint 6 (recovered)
5. memtest 86+
Other operating systems
6. Vista/Longhorn loader
7. Vista/Longhorn loader
Sda7 is where Ubuntu should be installed. GPARTED says its ext3 file system and bootscript says ext4.
I did find the forum post on purging and installing GRUB2 though I'm not sure if that's what I need to do, or try to reinstall Ubuntu w/o also doing partition resizing at the same time.
The output from my bootscript:
Code:
Boot Info Script 0.55 dated February 15th, 2010
============================= Boot Info Summary: ==============================
=> Grub 0.97 is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda and looks on the same drive in partition #5 for /boot/grub/stage2 and /boot/grub/menu.lst.
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Feb 2, 2011
I used to have dual boot of Windows XP and Ubuntu 10.04 which encounters some severe problems working extremely slow.... Last night I tried install Ubuntu 10.10 with live CD into the existing partition of the previous 10.04. But the 'GRUB Loading Stage 1.5, error 15' appeared. With the help from the following link, still couldn't fix it. [URL] Unfortunately, I can not get into either of the OS afterwards..... Now I am trying to reinstall again step by step. Anyhow, I am quite a beginner at non-windows OS, could guess the meaning of each command line rather than understand them well.
1. I deleted the partition /dev/sda8 and added it again in ext4 format with choosing 'Format the partition'
2. Should I set the 'Mount Point' with any options? "/", "/boot", "/home" or any others?
3. How shall I set Boot loader -> Device for boot loader installation:
/dev/sda8 or
/dev/sda ATA Hitachi HTS54323 (320.1 GB)
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May 17, 2011
It's a little silly to ask this, as I am about to try it anyway, but is it theoretically possible to use a GRUB Legacy USB boot cd to boot a distro beyond 9.04? Or do I need to get to reading about GRUB 2?EDIT: As the USB Boot CD needs to be created from the GRUB files existing inside the Distro that it is intended to boot, this is impossible. Question answered.DIT EDIT: Unless I revert to GRUB legacy inside the Distro itself. Ok. Neat. I guess I just needed a place to write it down to figure it out
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Jun 30, 2010
I've Win XP installed on sda1 initially. Then I installed Centos on sdb (boot partition on sdb1 and root on sdb2). I chose to install grub to MBR of sda. The Centos installation automatically created an entry in the menu.lst file and I can successfully boot either into XP or Centos.
Now I went ahead and installed Ubuntu 10.04 to sdb4. Both Centos and Ubuntu are sharing the swap partition at sdb3. When I was installing Ubuntu, I chose not to install grub because I wanted the grub already installed to boot all three. After Ubuntu was installed, I logged into Centos and added the following entry in its menu.lst [so I modified (sdb1)/boot/grub/menu.lst ]
Code:
title Ubuntu 10.04
root (hd1,3)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-21-generic ro root=/dev/sdb4 splash quiet
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-21-generic
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Apr 16, 2010
Where, I'm looking for a Linux Micro-distro which let me do certain thingsWhat I want?I want a linux distro which I CAN install on old PC, Pentium 2/Pentium 3 PC, from 600mhz to 900mhz and from 128MB Ram to 250MBWhat I want that this distro does?Well, I want a distro that I can configure DHCP so automatically get the assigned IP/DNS info.his distro should boot directly to an RDP (Remote Desktop protocol) Client, just that. Automatically should connect to a predefined server which will ask for the user credentials, this windows shouldn't be closeable or if can be close automatically should re-open until the user enter his/her credentials.The distro should have a file or a way in which an administrator can choose/change the server to which the user will connect.
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Feb 28, 2010
have only been able to find instructions to enable HyperThreading on legacy versions of Grub, but not Grub2.
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Jun 8, 2010
The O'Reilly book, Linux in a Nutshell, Sixth Edition has this excerpted section (on Legacy GRUB):If GRUB is installed in the MBR, you can chainload Windows by setting the root device to the partition that has the Windows boot loader, making it the active partition, and then using the chainloader command to read the Windows boot sector.If GRUB has been installed to (hd0,0)'s MBR, then I am confused what "file" chainloader +1 is pointing to. Obviously, it is not the MBR but that is confusing to me. When one boots a Linux system with GRUB in the MBR, what file does chainloader +1 point to?
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Aug 2, 2010
I wish to re-install grub legacy from my booted USB flash drive for Ubuntu 9.04.
Using the terminal for sudo grub I then go to >root (hd0,0) and then when I go to <setup (hd0) I get "Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition"
I have tried substituting /dev/sda in place of (hd0) but then I get "Error 11: Unrecognized device string"
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Nov 22, 2010
Got a Gforce4 Ti 4400 graphics card. After installing 10.10 everything works but not optimal:
I cannot choose any visual effects under appearances. I don't have a NVIDIA menu. Can't use any of the features. When looking in the 'additional drivers' section, nothing shows up. Looking at some threads, I tried what is described in: p {margin-bottom: 0.08in;} [URL]
However, the result is crap. As described further down that thread, my screen goes to crap. So, re-installed everything again and I am now wondering if I should just give up. Not my nature though so here is my question:
My card is supported with the Legacy NVIDIA driver: 96.43.xx driver
Latest version on their website:
Version: 96.43.19 Certified
Release Date: 2010.11.16
Operating System: Linux
Language: English (U.S.)
File Size: 15.7 MB
This file is a .bin file. So what should I do. I read something like if you don't use something from the repository you have to re-install it every time Ubuntu's kernel is updated. However, does the driver in the repository support my legacy card. Is it wise to install the certified driver and how do I do that?
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Mar 11, 2011
I installed yesterday the 11.4 openSUSE to my desktop pC (in my 160hdd that previous had WinVista).The bad thing was that I used grub from opensuse to be installed to MBR.openSUSE uses Grub 1.5 and I want grub2.Now I cannot see Ubuntu when grub legacy loads.I will post the results from
Code:
fdisk -l
later today (cause i am not in my pc)
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Aug 2, 2010
I would like to have a bootable disk that starts Grub legacy (not Grub 2). I have the /boot/grub/menu.lst that works for my system. When I had a floppy disk I used the option to create same from Startup Manager, but haven't found a way to create a similar disk.
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Dec 30, 2010
The reason I ask is I have not tried on bsd, solaris or a few others.
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Dec 24, 2010
I've been looking for info about Legacy OS but havent found much. I installed it and all works great except there are no active wireless extensions.My laptop have an internal wifi adapter (bcm43xx) I tried to load that driver using legacy OS network wizard but didnt work, the other is a external wireless card with a rtl8187 driver, this last one is the one I want to be up. I also tried to use ndiswrapper but can't set it up either.
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May 28, 2010
does somebody knows where could i download a legacy opensuse 10.3 cd iso? i have lost mine!, and it seems it contains a driver for my laptop i haven't found in other distros.
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Jun 19, 2010
I dual-boot ubuntu 9.04 and windows 7. I recently reinstalled windows, and it wiped grub-legacy off of my MBR. Reinstalling grub shouldn't be tough, right, especially with clear instructions? Anyway, I can't get anywhere with the official instructions here: [URL]. The first issue is that the current live CD has no program "grub" in terminal. I dug up an old live cd, but I couldn't get anything with the directions:
Find where Grub is. If this gives a few different answers then you will need to find the correct one, perhaps by trial-and-error.
find /boot/grub/stage1
That command didn't find anything, nor did some similar commands found on google.
So I'm really at a loss. What should I do?
-Can I install Grub 2 on my MBR? Will that work with 9.04?
-Can I access my 9.04 install, copy files to Windows, and then just format the partition and clean install 10.04?
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May 21, 2011
I moved from 8.04.2 to 10.04.2 and tried to upgrade from GRUB Legacy to Grub2. I must have made a mis-step somewhere in the process as on boot it now tells me
Code:
GRUB Loading stage1.5.
GRUB Loading,
Error 15
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Is there a nuke from orbit, no finesse way of just ripping all the existing GRUB mess out and installing GRUB2 from Boot disk? for instance should I be just be able to boot with a LIVE CD mount the primary disk of this machine and enter the below in a terminal without messing up any further?
Code:
sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/PRIMARY_DISK /dev/sda
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Jun 23, 2011
i was checking out some themes, and i found this theme that had tron life discs at the bottom displaying speed, temp, and mem. i followed the links to get those discs on my desktop but i dont kno how to do it.
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Jul 27, 2014
After seeing disappointing FPS in games with the open source AMD driver, I decided to install the proprietary one using the instructions on the Debian wiki. As I have a Mobility Radeon HD 3670, I needed to install the legacy driver. Everything installed fine, and I was able to configure my GPU by putting
Code: Select allSection "Device"
Identifier "My GPU"
Driver "fglrx"
EndSection
in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-fglrx.conf. I then restarted the computer, so that the open source driver could be blacklisted. In addition to the base driver installation, I installed the legacy Catalyst Control Center and the 32-bit fglrx OpenGL library. The problem is that, whenever I run fgl_glxgears, the rendering window is just a black screen. KDE renders just fine, and I am currently typing this using Iceweasel. I have tried using aticonfig to disable fast TLS, but the problem still occurs. The packages that I have installed are:
firmware-linux-nonfree
fglrx-legacy-control amd64
fglrx-legacy-atieventsd amd64
fglrx-legacy-driver amd64
fglrx-legacy-modules-dkms amd64
libfglrx-legacy amd64 and i386
libfglrx-legacy-amdxvba1 amd64
and libgl1-fglrx-legacy-glx amd64 and i386
. Also, when I type fglrxinfo, the renderer string is my GPU and not a software renderer.
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Nov 18, 2009
Greets all and congrats on the developers on bringing us another great version of Fedora. My box has an Nvidia GForce4 MMX 440 SE 64MB SDRam. I downloaded and updated from F11 to F12 last night. Before I went to bed It booted to a blank screen, GDM didn't want to start. I decided to investigate in the morning and went to bed. The first problem I found was that the F11 Legacy Nvidia Drivers were causing a problem, so I had to remove those. I also did an update with yum to get everything 100% updated. Then rebooted, more problems. GDM did NOT want to start for anything. More investigating found that the culprit was this nouveau kernel mod. Well, I had the xorg nouveau driver installed and I thought that this might be one in the same so I removed the xorg one with no avail, the nouveau kernal mod still loading. Seems that they are different and one is used for the xorg server and the other is used for the framebuffer console. I had to pass nouveau.modset=0 to the kernel at boot time to rid myself of the framebuffer. GDM starts now and I have resinstalled the xorg Nvidia nouveau driver though I have not tested it as of yet. Is there a better way at disabling the framebuffer boot up then by passing things to the kernel?
Edit: I take all that back. Upon further tinkering, reading, and investigation. The problem seems to be two fold: 1) The legacy nvidia drivers pissed and moaned about permission so I removed them. 2). This one I over looked and was causing me most of my grief. I didn't change the xorg.conf video driver from nv to nouveau. I did this and it works fine now. It seems that the "Linva-config-display" And I am sorry that I do not know exactly what this is at the moment. But this would automatically change the video driver from nvidia to nv if I manually changed it in the xorg.conf file after I removed the nvidia drivers. So I ASSUMED(my big mistake) that it would automatically see the nouveau driver and replace the nv with that. I was very wrong. After I added it manually, I rebooted and it runs fine now.
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Mar 22, 2011
I have Intel development board where I boot Fedora. If I use AMI bios then Fedora boot without video, I however can communicate to kernel via serial console. I suspect that this problem with video related to Legacy Bios Rom option. I however don't understand why it influences Linux, because it has good video driver. It was checked with another bootloader. what role is played by Legacy Bios Rom option.
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Jul 28, 2011
I'm currently running the XFCE Spin of Fedora 15 (Xedora, as I like to call it (; ) on 64 bit, so sometimes I need a 32 bit environment to try stuff out.
I recently installed Linux Mint on a partition formatted to btrfs, and this is where my problems start, as I have no idea how to add this installation to my existing GRUB configuration. The grub.cfg on the Mint partition looks like this (GRUB2 btw.):
Code:
#
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
#
# It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates
# from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
#
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Sep 22, 2010
I have an old Radeon 9250, reported as RV280 in hardware info, the current driver is radeon but the performance looks very suspicious to me.
In browsers, for example, simply scrolling down a page shoots CPU to 100%.
It could be the browser issue but at this point I tend to think that I need the proprietary Ati driver, the problem is that my card is "legacy" and simply installing their driver from their repo won't work for 11.3.
So, what are my options here?
Is Radeon driver tweakable in any way?
If fglrx is the better solution - what are the general steps to install an older driver? There's so much to read on it and I can't figure out what is applicable to my case and what isn't.
Maybe I should just revert to 11.2?
I tried checking Opera forums, it doesn't seem like a browser issue and it works just fine on 11.3 with a different graphic card anyway. I wouldn't mention it at all but older versions of Opera, below 10.11, comparing to 10.61 in repos or 10.62 on their site, work extremely fast without any lag, or any latest improvements, for that matter. Chrome appears faster but CPU still shoots up to 100% on page scroll.
Or should I just buy a new card? They are not very expensive but then my motherboard might support only what is now "legacy". It's AGP, not PCI express or whatever it's called now. In that case, should I go for nVidia or Ati? I've got AMD processor, if it matters.
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Apr 29, 2011
I have successfully dual booted Opensuse and Windows7 successfully, but I have to load it from the CD choosing the boot from hard drive option.
If I do not have the Opensuse CD inserted it goes to Grub Legacy and gives me the option to boot from Arch Linux, or Windows. There is no option for Opensuse and when i hit the Archl Linux option I get errors and it brings me to the /rmfa (I think) command line. Selecting Windows lets me boot to into Windows successfully.
I checked the /boot/grub/menu.list in Opensuse and everything seems to be fine, but these options do not appear on my boot loader.
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Dec 12, 2010
I had a coworker (now former coworker) set up a machine for me about 6 years ago so I could run a web server from my house. He put on Fedora Core (release 1 kernel 4.4.22-1.2115 on i686), MySQL, PHP, and Coppermine - which I use to run the web site. I have done pretty much NOTHING to this machine except upload images via my Windows computers since it was created.
I do know I have logged into a nice pretty interface once or twice when I had to configure the DNS when I switched my home network setup (changed sub domains etc...) Yesterday I was logged in and in a misguided attempt to get VNC and Samba working and upon reboot I managed to screw it up so that I no longer have any interface outside of the plain on text screens I would see if I connected via Putty (or some other means like that).
As you've figured out, I'm so far from knowing anything about Linux that I'm pretty much dead in the water here. I do know that my services are all still working (the web site is still serving up pages) and I can connect just fine, but any attempt to StartX results in: /usr/X11R6/bin/X: /lib/tls/libc.so.6: version 'GLIBC_2.3.4' not found (required by /usr/X11R6/bin/X)
And I have no idea what to do about it. I did download and (attempt) to install XFree86 at some point (installation instructions for VNC seemed to indicate this was a necessary step) and don't even have anything on my machine related to that version of GLIBC (the problem maybe?). Anyway, I'm frustrated, and beginning to think I'm screwed, and I suspect that there's no "UNDO" button for this mess
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May 9, 2011
We installed Debain 6.0 (Squeeze) on a Seagate ST2000DL003 (2 TB SATA HDD) and the installer choose GPT for us. Only came to light when we tried to run fdisk and got "WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted". parted was not installed by default (!). Investigating further we found dd cannot be used to back up and restore GPT; for that you need gptfdisk (a.k.a. gdisk) which is still in beta and does not have a 64-bit .deb.
Clearly GPT is the future but I am not convinced it is mature yet (Bug#599437) and the online knowledgebase is not yet extensive. Taking all this into account, I am considering changing to a traditional MBR and included partition table. [Note on terminology: when using a GPT, the MBR is considered distinct from the partition table; when using a legacy partition table, the partition table is commonly considered part of the MBR]
Would this be wise? If the good people at Debian have programmed the installer to use GPT for this HDD, despite GPT's youth, they must have had their reasons. The most informative Debian documentation found is the Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide, 6.3.3. Partitioning and Mount Point Selection which says "... Defaults may vary as well. The type of partition table used by default can for example be different for large capacity hard disks than for smaller hard disks. Some options can only be changed when installing at medium or low debconf priority; at higher priorities sensible defaults will be used".
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Apr 5, 2011
I am new to Debian. I have installed Debian on sda1, grub installed in /dev/sda . /dev/sda6 is SalixOs.
My fdisk -l report is this code...
I boot from sda, Debian recognised windows Xp installed on sdb1, but when I choose to boot from it, it simply reboots.
What could be the reason ? I am a newbie, please be patient with me.
I have solve the problem by installing EasyBCD in WinXp and added the Linux entries to it and booting from sdb.(changed in BIOS)
So, is it possible to uninstall GRUB-2 and install GRUB-Legacy ? Would it work on Debian-Squeeze ?
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Sep 6, 2011
I purchased an older Dell (p4 1.8G 256M) just to run some low demand programs. They don't require a GUI - just ssh/cli type of access. will be a server type - no kb or monitor. Can someone give me some pointers where to start at? I've never done a Debian install - the install process may address these questions - but figured I would throw it out here. I've used Ubuntu for several years now but I doubt that it would be the best distro for a legacy system....
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