OpenSUSE Hardware :: Upgrade Legacy VGA With (less) Legacy VGA?
Jan 2, 2011
I have an ATI Radeon 9200 AGP card. I plan to upgrade it mainly because the 2D performance in KDE (3.x without Beryl or Compiz) is just bad. Since we are talking about a relatively old desktop, I do not want to completely upgrade it. So, I want to just upgrade the VGA card. I have found the following cards: Nvidia GeForce 6200
Radeon HD 2400 Pro
Radeon X1600 Pro Avivo Edition
Now, the simple question: Their prices are just OK (just a couple of � separate them). Which chip is better? And which chip is better supported from our beloved distro?
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May 21, 2011
I moved from 8.04.2 to 10.04.2 and tried to upgrade from GRUB Legacy to Grub2. I must have made a mis-step somewhere in the process as on boot it now tells me
Code:
GRUB Loading stage1.5.
GRUB Loading,
Error 15
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Is there a nuke from orbit, no finesse way of just ripping all the existing GRUB mess out and installing GRUB2 from Boot disk? for instance should I be just be able to boot with a LIVE CD mount the primary disk of this machine and enter the below in a terminal without messing up any further?
Code:
sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/PRIMARY_DISK /dev/sda
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May 28, 2010
does somebody knows where could i download a legacy opensuse 10.3 cd iso? i have lost mine!, and it seems it contains a driver for my laptop i haven't found in other distros.
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Sep 22, 2010
I have an old Radeon 9250, reported as RV280 in hardware info, the current driver is radeon but the performance looks very suspicious to me.
In browsers, for example, simply scrolling down a page shoots CPU to 100%.
It could be the browser issue but at this point I tend to think that I need the proprietary Ati driver, the problem is that my card is "legacy" and simply installing their driver from their repo won't work for 11.3.
So, what are my options here?
Is Radeon driver tweakable in any way?
If fglrx is the better solution - what are the general steps to install an older driver? There's so much to read on it and I can't figure out what is applicable to my case and what isn't.
Maybe I should just revert to 11.2?
I tried checking Opera forums, it doesn't seem like a browser issue and it works just fine on 11.3 with a different graphic card anyway. I wouldn't mention it at all but older versions of Opera, below 10.11, comparing to 10.61 in repos or 10.62 on their site, work extremely fast without any lag, or any latest improvements, for that matter. Chrome appears faster but CPU still shoots up to 100% on page scroll.
Or should I just buy a new card? They are not very expensive but then my motherboard might support only what is now "legacy". It's AGP, not PCI express or whatever it's called now. In that case, should I go for nVidia or Ati? I've got AMD processor, if it matters.
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Apr 29, 2011
I have successfully dual booted Opensuse and Windows7 successfully, but I have to load it from the CD choosing the boot from hard drive option.
If I do not have the Opensuse CD inserted it goes to Grub Legacy and gives me the option to boot from Arch Linux, or Windows. There is no option for Opensuse and when i hit the Archl Linux option I get errors and it brings me to the /rmfa (I think) command line. Selecting Windows lets me boot to into Windows successfully.
I checked the /boot/grub/menu.list in Opensuse and everything seems to be fine, but these options do not appear on my boot loader.
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Mar 13, 2011
i tried installing the driver through the one click install (SDB:NVIDIA drivers - openSUSE) and through zipper, but system info says that the display driver is nouveau. here are my specs
opensuse 11.4
RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro
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Nov 16, 2010
I went through really a lot of Linux systems, and I think I am going to settle on Opensuse OS. I must say Opensuse 11.3 is fantastic! However I have this lousy in the top 5 of evil graphic cards list ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 card. This version of Opensuse seems to best realize what creature it is and gives the biggest description of it in the hardware information from all Linux distros I have tried. Unfortunately I have a big trouble to install proprietary drivers. I downloaded the recommended drives from amd-ati homepage but on debian and ubuntu installing via terminal simply reports an error while Opensuse doens;t even try to run the ati run file of drivers.
Could somebody please assist me and give recommendations what to do in order to install proprietary legacy drivers? Keep in mind I am a complete newbie. The only thing I am good at with terminal is copy/paste. I learned how to add repos to the yeast and successfully added amd ati repo to the lsit, but it still doens;t seem to give anything suitable in my case.
I do believe it would be a valuable source for people looking for steps instruction related to legacy drivers so lets consider this something like How To Escape ATI Legacy Drivers Nightmares thread.
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Feb 24, 2011
I installed 9.04 then upgraded all the way to 10.04 and I am sticking with this version now.I just tried updating the Legacy Grub to Grub 2. My version of Grub right now is 1.98.Somthing went wrong when I doing the "upgrade-from-grub-legacy" command and I got error 15 or something to that nature. I fixed that by booting in to my live 9.04 cd and long story short, I mounted the drive to replace the grub and all worked well. I am able to boot right back up now *wipes sweat off for-head*.... HUGE accomplishment for me and I feel like a real linux geek now hahaha.I again ran...
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~$sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy
And I am prompted with this...
[code]....
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May 2, 2010
I've installed grub2 on 10.04, when I restarted I selected that option in the menu that seems to go for testing the chainloader. The system seemed to start ok, so I ran upgrade-from-grub-legacy. Now it's asking me for "GRUB install devices" and listing my hard drive (/dev/sda) and the 5 partitions on it as possible options. Which should I choose? I have Linux and Windoze running on this desktop,
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Dec 6, 2009
i have a little experience with ubuntu but i have had bugs that are not resolvable at this time in ubuntu. so instead of giving wild bill back my pc i am looking for a new distro. my concerns with ubuntu revolve around acpi. no fan control and high temp. the 2nd problem that is almost overlookable is the ata1 softreset error. it usually is no problem but occasionally have to do manual fsck to fix. so heres my laptop specs. toshiba a305d-s6848. amd turion x2 ati x1250 integrated. 3gb ram. 500gb hd vista and ubuntu 9.04 dual boot grub with 100gb ubuntu and the rest vista. so q1= what suse version would be best?
q2= is suse's acpi better? ubuntu runs all features but fan control
q3= is suse as easy to install? or harder
q4= ati graphics i know for my card went to legacy what version still has the ati drivers for my card
q5= is suse easier or harder to work with and get everything working.
i know no linux is or opsys is perfect. im just looking for one that is stable and works the pc correctly. i know its a big thing to ask. i know no one can tell me that. but just looking for suggestions. im thinking of downloading suse and does all the downloads support live sessions.
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Apr 21, 2011
Legacy Hardware I have a chunk of hardware I bought in 2005 that came with Windoze verzhun Whatever. Very soon after buying it I decided to discard the trash that came with it, and installed Mandrake. I lived with Mandrake for a while until I decided to install Debian. Debian lasted me very well, until Lenny became Squeeze.All of a sudden, my hardware was slow. I couldn't keep up. Lenny had seen my applications crash more and more often, but Squeeze just couldn't keep me in the race. I chose to go to Ubuntu.
With my hardware, Ubuntu 10.10 just would not see my disks. Ubuntu 9.10 could not install grub. I tried everything - take a look at a google forum that I didn't look at, if you can.Ubuntu 8.04 loads and runs without any special work. I suggest that Ubuntu 9.10 and 10.10 have special hardware requirements.
root@gizmo:~# lshw
gizmo
description: Desktop Computer
product: System Product Name
[code]...
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Apr 16, 2010
Where, I'm looking for a Linux Micro-distro which let me do certain thingsWhat I want?I want a linux distro which I CAN install on old PC, Pentium 2/Pentium 3 PC, from 600mhz to 900mhz and from 128MB Ram to 250MBWhat I want that this distro does?Well, I want a distro that I can configure DHCP so automatically get the assigned IP/DNS info.his distro should boot directly to an RDP (Remote Desktop protocol) Client, just that. Automatically should connect to a predefined server which will ask for the user credentials, this windows shouldn't be closeable or if can be close automatically should re-open until the user enter his/her credentials.The distro should have a file or a way in which an administrator can choose/change the server to which the user will connect.
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Jul 17, 2010
I had Arch Linux installed on my machine on sda1 and the Grub legacy that came on their install image on the MBA at sda/. I just did a Ubuntu update and it wanted me to do an update and me thinking grub-install referred to grub legacy, went along with it but now I have Grub2 for my boot menu. There are a few guides on restoring Grub2 I've found but how do I put Grub back on to how I had it? (I thought installing grub legacy from Arch's usb image I have would be simple and fairly automated/easy but it won't let me without doing the previous steps of partitioning drives and selecting packages to install and such so it looks like I'm going to have to do it manually which I haven't done before).
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Dec 30, 2010
The reason I ask is I have not tried on bsd, solaris or a few others.
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Dec 24, 2010
I've been looking for info about Legacy OS but havent found much. I installed it and all works great except there are no active wireless extensions.My laptop have an internal wifi adapter (bcm43xx) I tried to load that driver using legacy OS network wizard but didnt work, the other is a external wireless card with a rtl8187 driver, this last one is the one I want to be up. I also tried to use ndiswrapper but can't set it up either.
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Jul 27, 2014
After seeing disappointing FPS in games with the open source AMD driver, I decided to install the proprietary one using the instructions on the Debian wiki. As I have a Mobility Radeon HD 3670, I needed to install the legacy driver. Everything installed fine, and I was able to configure my GPU by putting
Code: Select allSection "Device"
Identifier "My GPU"
Driver "fglrx"
EndSection
in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-fglrx.conf. I then restarted the computer, so that the open source driver could be blacklisted. In addition to the base driver installation, I installed the legacy Catalyst Control Center and the 32-bit fglrx OpenGL library. The problem is that, whenever I run fgl_glxgears, the rendering window is just a black screen. KDE renders just fine, and I am currently typing this using Iceweasel. I have tried using aticonfig to disable fast TLS, but the problem still occurs. The packages that I have installed are:
firmware-linux-nonfree
fglrx-legacy-control amd64
fglrx-legacy-atieventsd amd64
fglrx-legacy-driver amd64
fglrx-legacy-modules-dkms amd64
libfglrx-legacy amd64 and i386
libfglrx-legacy-amdxvba1 amd64
and libgl1-fglrx-legacy-glx amd64 and i386
. Also, when I type fglrxinfo, the renderer string is my GPU and not a software renderer.
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Nov 18, 2009
Greets all and congrats on the developers on bringing us another great version of Fedora. My box has an Nvidia GForce4 MMX 440 SE 64MB SDRam. I downloaded and updated from F11 to F12 last night. Before I went to bed It booted to a blank screen, GDM didn't want to start. I decided to investigate in the morning and went to bed. The first problem I found was that the F11 Legacy Nvidia Drivers were causing a problem, so I had to remove those. I also did an update with yum to get everything 100% updated. Then rebooted, more problems. GDM did NOT want to start for anything. More investigating found that the culprit was this nouveau kernel mod. Well, I had the xorg nouveau driver installed and I thought that this might be one in the same so I removed the xorg one with no avail, the nouveau kernal mod still loading. Seems that they are different and one is used for the xorg server and the other is used for the framebuffer console. I had to pass nouveau.modset=0 to the kernel at boot time to rid myself of the framebuffer. GDM starts now and I have resinstalled the xorg Nvidia nouveau driver though I have not tested it as of yet. Is there a better way at disabling the framebuffer boot up then by passing things to the kernel?
Edit: I take all that back. Upon further tinkering, reading, and investigation. The problem seems to be two fold: 1) The legacy nvidia drivers pissed and moaned about permission so I removed them. 2). This one I over looked and was causing me most of my grief. I didn't change the xorg.conf video driver from nv to nouveau. I did this and it works fine now. It seems that the "Linva-config-display" And I am sorry that I do not know exactly what this is at the moment. But this would automatically change the video driver from nvidia to nv if I manually changed it in the xorg.conf file after I removed the nvidia drivers. So I ASSUMED(my big mistake) that it would automatically see the nouveau driver and replace the nv with that. I was very wrong. After I added it manually, I rebooted and it runs fine now.
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Mar 22, 2011
I have Intel development board where I boot Fedora. If I use AMI bios then Fedora boot without video, I however can communicate to kernel via serial console. I suspect that this problem with video related to Legacy Bios Rom option. I however don't understand why it influences Linux, because it has good video driver. It was checked with another bootloader. what role is played by Legacy Bios Rom option.
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Jul 28, 2011
I'm currently running the XFCE Spin of Fedora 15 (Xedora, as I like to call it (; ) on 64 bit, so sometimes I need a 32 bit environment to try stuff out.
I recently installed Linux Mint on a partition formatted to btrfs, and this is where my problems start, as I have no idea how to add this installation to my existing GRUB configuration. The grub.cfg on the Mint partition looks like this (GRUB2 btw.):
Code:
#
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
#
# It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates
# from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
#
[Code].....
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Dec 18, 2010
My laptop came with Vista and I added Linux Mint 6 (based on Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex) all is good for a year or so. Added Ubuntu 10.10 to my desktop, loved it, wanted to add it to my laptop...oops.
Installed the main version from a LiveCD, did the the easy multi-OS installation.
GRUB-0.97 is what boots my system though looking at boot script I do have GRUB2 somewhere.
Currently, my boot options are:
1. Mint 6
2. Mint 6 (recovered)
3. Mint 6
4. Mint 6 (recovered)
5. memtest 86+
Other operating systems
6. Vista/Longhorn loader
7. Vista/Longhorn loader
Sda7 is where Ubuntu should be installed. GPARTED says its ext3 file system and bootscript says ext4.
I did find the forum post on purging and installing GRUB2 though I'm not sure if that's what I need to do, or try to reinstall Ubuntu w/o also doing partition resizing at the same time.
The output from my bootscript:
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Boot Info Script 0.55 dated February 15th, 2010
============================= Boot Info Summary: ==============================
=> Grub 0.97 is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda and looks on the same drive in partition #5 for /boot/grub/stage2 and /boot/grub/menu.lst.
[Code]....
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Feb 2, 2011
I used to have dual boot of Windows XP and Ubuntu 10.04 which encounters some severe problems working extremely slow.... Last night I tried install Ubuntu 10.10 with live CD into the existing partition of the previous 10.04. But the 'GRUB Loading Stage 1.5, error 15' appeared. With the help from the following link, still couldn't fix it. [URL] Unfortunately, I can not get into either of the OS afterwards..... Now I am trying to reinstall again step by step. Anyhow, I am quite a beginner at non-windows OS, could guess the meaning of each command line rather than understand them well.
1. I deleted the partition /dev/sda8 and added it again in ext4 format with choosing 'Format the partition'
2. Should I set the 'Mount Point' with any options? "/", "/boot", "/home" or any others?
3. How shall I set Boot loader -> Device for boot loader installation:
/dev/sda8 or
/dev/sda ATA Hitachi HTS54323 (320.1 GB)
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May 17, 2011
It's a little silly to ask this, as I am about to try it anyway, but is it theoretically possible to use a GRUB Legacy USB boot cd to boot a distro beyond 9.04? Or do I need to get to reading about GRUB 2?EDIT: As the USB Boot CD needs to be created from the GRUB files existing inside the Distro that it is intended to boot, this is impossible. Question answered.DIT EDIT: Unless I revert to GRUB legacy inside the Distro itself. Ok. Neat. I guess I just needed a place to write it down to figure it out
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Jun 30, 2010
I've Win XP installed on sda1 initially. Then I installed Centos on sdb (boot partition on sdb1 and root on sdb2). I chose to install grub to MBR of sda. The Centos installation automatically created an entry in the menu.lst file and I can successfully boot either into XP or Centos.
Now I went ahead and installed Ubuntu 10.04 to sdb4. Both Centos and Ubuntu are sharing the swap partition at sdb3. When I was installing Ubuntu, I chose not to install grub because I wanted the grub already installed to boot all three. After Ubuntu was installed, I logged into Centos and added the following entry in its menu.lst [so I modified (sdb1)/boot/grub/menu.lst ]
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title Ubuntu 10.04
root (hd1,3)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-21-generic ro root=/dev/sdb4 splash quiet
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-21-generic
[Code].....
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Dec 12, 2010
I had a coworker (now former coworker) set up a machine for me about 6 years ago so I could run a web server from my house. He put on Fedora Core (release 1 kernel 4.4.22-1.2115 on i686), MySQL, PHP, and Coppermine - which I use to run the web site. I have done pretty much NOTHING to this machine except upload images via my Windows computers since it was created.
I do know I have logged into a nice pretty interface once or twice when I had to configure the DNS when I switched my home network setup (changed sub domains etc...) Yesterday I was logged in and in a misguided attempt to get VNC and Samba working and upon reboot I managed to screw it up so that I no longer have any interface outside of the plain on text screens I would see if I connected via Putty (or some other means like that).
As you've figured out, I'm so far from knowing anything about Linux that I'm pretty much dead in the water here. I do know that my services are all still working (the web site is still serving up pages) and I can connect just fine, but any attempt to StartX results in: /usr/X11R6/bin/X: /lib/tls/libc.so.6: version 'GLIBC_2.3.4' not found (required by /usr/X11R6/bin/X)
And I have no idea what to do about it. I did download and (attempt) to install XFree86 at some point (installation instructions for VNC seemed to indicate this was a necessary step) and don't even have anything on my machine related to that version of GLIBC (the problem maybe?). Anyway, I'm frustrated, and beginning to think I'm screwed, and I suspect that there's no "UNDO" button for this mess
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May 9, 2011
We installed Debain 6.0 (Squeeze) on a Seagate ST2000DL003 (2 TB SATA HDD) and the installer choose GPT for us. Only came to light when we tried to run fdisk and got "WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted". parted was not installed by default (!). Investigating further we found dd cannot be used to back up and restore GPT; for that you need gptfdisk (a.k.a. gdisk) which is still in beta and does not have a 64-bit .deb.
Clearly GPT is the future but I am not convinced it is mature yet (Bug#599437) and the online knowledgebase is not yet extensive. Taking all this into account, I am considering changing to a traditional MBR and included partition table. [Note on terminology: when using a GPT, the MBR is considered distinct from the partition table; when using a legacy partition table, the partition table is commonly considered part of the MBR]
Would this be wise? If the good people at Debian have programmed the installer to use GPT for this HDD, despite GPT's youth, they must have had their reasons. The most informative Debian documentation found is the Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide, 6.3.3. Partitioning and Mount Point Selection which says "... Defaults may vary as well. The type of partition table used by default can for example be different for large capacity hard disks than for smaller hard disks. Some options can only be changed when installing at medium or low debconf priority; at higher priorities sensible defaults will be used".
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Apr 5, 2011
I am new to Debian. I have installed Debian on sda1, grub installed in /dev/sda . /dev/sda6 is SalixOs.
My fdisk -l report is this code...
I boot from sda, Debian recognised windows Xp installed on sdb1, but when I choose to boot from it, it simply reboots.
What could be the reason ? I am a newbie, please be patient with me.
I have solve the problem by installing EasyBCD in WinXp and added the Linux entries to it and booting from sdb.(changed in BIOS)
So, is it possible to uninstall GRUB-2 and install GRUB-Legacy ? Would it work on Debian-Squeeze ?
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Sep 6, 2011
I purchased an older Dell (p4 1.8G 256M) just to run some low demand programs. They don't require a GUI - just ssh/cli type of access. will be a server type - no kb or monitor. Can someone give me some pointers where to start at? I've never done a Debian install - the install process may address these questions - but figured I would throw it out here. I've used Ubuntu for several years now but I doubt that it would be the best distro for a legacy system....
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Feb 2, 2015
I recently updated my Debian Jessie and somehow that update broke my Debian. I have a Gtx 465 and this has been working fine under Jessie for a year.
After the update I no longer have X running. I tried removing all the Nvida stuff and reinstalling 304-legacy which did not get the Xserver back. I also tried to install Nvidia 304 driver binary but this time it refuses to compile ;( So I am out of luck at the moment.
I am runing Jessie Linux 3.18 Nvidia 465 Gtx Intel Cpu
Code: Select all built-ins
[ 41.306] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
[ 41.306] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices.
If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices.
[ 41.306] (II) Loader magic: 0x7ff757496d80
[Code] .....
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Feb 13, 2010
Does anyone know when or if the nvidia legacy drivers are going into Squeeze? I tried the ones in the Sid repos but ran into unresolvable dependencies. Lots of people were telling me that testing works just fine so I've been trying it out, but to be honest I've run into quite a few problems of this nature. I admit that I'm running a real Rube Goldberg mix of older and newer hardware on this box, but I wouldn't think it would be this much of a problem.
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Oct 3, 2009
I can't get the Nvidia legacy drivers running. I've the following packages, which are the right ones for my kernel:
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and I added nouveau to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and created a new mkinitrd which boots. But the X11 window system doesn't start up, so I checked if nouveau is loaded and it's really blacklisted. When I manually modprobe nvidia kernel driver I get the following error:
Quote:
FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.30.8-64.fc11.i686.PAE/extra/nvidia/nvidia.ko): No such device
and some warnings from the module that 185.18.36 doesn't support my CPU.
My video card is:
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Try to figure this out for two days now. Rpmfusion is really frustrating for me
Adding vmalloc=256m to the kernel parameters and Option "ConstantFrameRateHint" "True" in xorg.conf also didn't help.
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