General :: Debian Server Vs Ubuntu Vs Slackware For Quad Xeon DL580 G3
Feb 17, 2011
I'm very new to Linux and I'm looking for some guidance on which version of Linux server I should install. I read several posts that try to compare Slackware, Debian server, and Ubuntu but the message I got is that each version has its pros/cons. The version that you end up using should ultimately be the best for what you are trying to do.
I purchased a HP Proliant DL580 G3 with the following configuration:
(4) Intel Xeon 3.0Ghz CPU's W/ 8mb Cache/667mHz FSB
16GB RAM @ 16 x 1GB ELPIDA PC2-3200-333
(2) 36.4GB 15k U320 SCSI Hard Drives
(2) Power Supplies
DVD Drive
This server will be configured as my web server and database server. I will use Apache and MySQL.
I want the server to be as secure as possible and will be following the recommendations on the book "Hacking Linux Exposed" to configure Linux.
I would like to install a version of Linux that will utilize all of the server's resources - the 4 x Xeon Processors and the 16 GB of RAM. As for the RAID configuration I plan to just have the hard drives mirrored. And lastly someone recommended that I cache my website in the RAM for faster load times. I have not researched this yet but would like the Linux version suggested to allow me to do this. I assume any Linux version would allow me to do this but I thought it would be safer to include it in this list.
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Jun 30, 2009
System recognizes that CPU is capable of throttling, but there is no module to govern it. So Xeon always runs at full frequency.This is not convenient as my server is not always in full use, so I would like it to lower power consumption, especially for AC, with frequency scaling enabled.Can you help me is this some bug, misconfiguration in default kernel or guys who writes kernel think that scaling is not necessary for servers processors?
From my analysis so far, I think that the issue lies with the fact that module acpi-cpufreq does not support Xeons and that there is no dedicated module for this processor family (e.g. p4-clockmod) module in the default kernel.
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how to setup RAID on a Compaq Proliant DL580 G1 Server. Currently there is no OS installed. I used the SmartStart CD but there is no option to setup RAID. When I put in the boot CD for CentOS 5 it recognizes individual hard drives not a RAID Setup.
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Xeon or not to xeon? What are the advantages of xeon? 3x the encryption, decryption; SMP - Symmetric multiprocessing; ECC ram IPMI - Intelligent Platform Management Interface (newer model)sometimes a larger l3 cache. What are the disadvantages of xeon? cost; is it really necessary?
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Aug 23, 2010
I would like to run my own server, and I'm thinking of buying a dedicated machine to run it on. I checked out the dell website for a cheap machine to run it on (I don't need high performance - just a personal file server running a few hard drives, and a web/mail server). I noticed that they have some cheap models in their server line that are as cheap as a desktop. Compare:
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The main difference I see between the desktops and the servers is the use of the Core or Xeon processor, and also, the servers tend to have lower RAM.if I am looking for value, should I opt for a low end desktop or a low end server to run a personal server? Also, what advantage does the Xeon processors and Dell server line have over the desktop models that make it better for running a server?
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i am looking for any advice what tool to use for temperature monitoring on server dual xeon F29 board intel se7501wv2 running CentOS 5.5
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any one point me to the download link of the most suitable ISO image (CD/DVD) with the latest stable Debian Lenny distro, taking into account that I have a two-processor Intel motherboard with currently one Intel Xeon 64bit processor.
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Mar 20, 2009
My work reponsibilities now include a new server running Centos 5.2 on a Dual Xeon Dell server machine with Raid 1 on 2 160Gb disks, but I have no experience of Linux, let alone Centos.I figured I'd download an image and load it on a spare machine just so I could get used to the OS and try things out without risking my live server. My only available spare at present is a Toshiba laptop from 2000 (it was top of the range at the time, but probably looks bad compared to my pocket smartphone now).My questions are:
a) Is it feasible to load Centos on this old donkey of a laptop? Would I struggle to find the right drivers, etc., or is it all contained in the distribution?
b) Assuming it runs, would the differences between the two implementations significantly affect my learning experience?
c) Assuming the two are similar enough to make the laptop a useful reference/staging/learning tool, where do I start? I've already downloaded an ISO image for LiveCD (i386) and burned it to a CD but the CD doesn't seem to have anything I recognise. Windows (both Vista and XP) treats it like any data CD and shows no autorun behaviour with it.
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Mar 9, 2010
I've got a dual Xeon 5570 (Nehalem) server. It clocks down properly, but never, under any circumstances that I've found, clocks up past its TSC. Even when running basically nothing but cat /dev/zero > /dev/null, nothing gets clocked higher than the TSC. Below is the turbostat output, which clearly knows what the hardware is actually capable of, but it never actually achieves it. I'm running Lenny, with backported kernel 2.6.30-bpo.2-amd64. I tried the 2.6.32 backport and there wasn't any difference. know where I should look next? BIOS settings? Do I need to change some kernel option and recompile?
# ./turbostat
Nehalem multiplier 22, TSC frequency 2933 MHz
Nehalem 4 cores active: 24 mult, max turbo frequency = 3200 MHz
Nehalem 3 cores active: 24 mult, max turbo frequency = 3200 MHz
Nehalem 2 cores active: 25 mult, max turbo frequency = 3333 MHz
Nehalem 1 core active: 25 mult, max turbo frequency = 3333 MHz
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Jan 22, 2010
Sadly, I google'd the heck out of this and even the vmware community has no answers. So, I decided to turn to the experts and see if you can provide a better solution than [URL]. The system sees both CPU's and all of the cores (cat /proc/cpuinfo). I have tried with HT and without HT (I never run HT anymore; seems to hurt performance in my workloads). I've tried the recent and newest kernels for CentOS 5.4 and still have no luck. There seems to be lots of people having this issue, but no real solutions.
Dell PE R710 with 2x Xeon CPU X5550
kernel 2.6.18-164.11.1.el5 #1 SMP x86_64
Fresh CentOS 5.4 install
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I'm building a new router for my home. I have a pci-x motherboard with two network connections on the motherboard, SUSE 11. I intended to use one network connection for the external zone and the other for the Internal zone, (the internal port going to a four port switch). Recently, a friend gave me an "Intel PRO 1000 MT PCI-X Quad-Port Adapter C32199" which will plug into my motherboard, presumably giving me a total of 6 (4+2) network connections. 1) Can it be as simple as setting one network connection to "external zone" and the other five to "Internal zone", and plug my other computers into the internal zone connectors, eliminating the need for a switch?
2) There seem to be a lot of these QUAD server adapters on Ebay; how where they originally used?
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Mar 14, 2010
Last Thursday, 3/11, I installed a new mother board (ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO), AMD Athlon II X4 Processor, 4Gig DDR3 ram (RIP JAWS), 1 SATA DVD drive, along with my 2 IDE HDD's. The display was OK during BIOS review, and boot UNTIL it came to mounting x-graphics, at which point the screen went black, and a display message came up saying Out-of-RangeHf: 30KHz-70KHzVf: 50Hz-90HzCurrent Frequency:90.3KHz, 60.0Hz.
Does anyone know what is causing this? I mean, is there no way that Deb 5 X86 is going to run on a quad 64-bit system, or can something else be wrong? Before changing hardware, I had seen indications that this system was backward-compatible to older systems, and the more in depth study I've done since seems to verify this.y be, however, that I completely mis-understand what I am reading - this is all pretty new to me.
I tried booting into Debian 4, Libranet 3, and Linspire 6. They all complained loudly, but differently, about x being inoperable. I can't tell you how they complained because I can't go back and check them. THAT is because, in BIOS, I was testing the system with all the different options for "Internal Graphics", to see if one would work. One of these options was "Disabled". Oh-ho-ho! BAD MOVE!!! it's disabled, all right, including BIOS! I can't believe it. There was no warning, whatsoever. I assumed no engineer in his right mind would allow that option to lock out the BIOS without SOME kind of warning. I'm going to try to call ASUS tech support tomorrow to see if they have a solution, but if anyone knows how to reverse this, please let me know. I suppose the only answer is a separate graphics board. But I don't want to get that if I can't use this MotherBd.-processor setup.
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Mar 11, 2010
In the past, I've deployed new 64 bit systems and I've worked on and developed on 64 bit systems. But until a week ago, my workstation was a 32 bit system. Now, it is a 64 bit quad core Phenom II system, and I suppose I need to start the migration to 64 bit Linux. I do not want to blow off my system and rebuild it. This particular system dates back a decade and through many many updates. There is some digital debris in it, but there is also a fair amount of customization that I have implemented either for my own purposes or for customers, and to lose that customization would represent a headache for me.
What I want to do is install a 64 bit system over top of the 32 bit system. It is my hope that doing this would install the necessary 64 bit libraries, while not impacting the existing 32 bit libraries (except with some possible symlink problems). I then, hopefully, could boot into a 64 bit kernel while still running 32 bit programs. Is this feasible? My backup system is comprehensive; I COULD just try it and back up if my system became hosed. But I'd rather not; I have a lot of work to do and I'd rather not learn by doing in this case.
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Xeon cpu 2 cpu motherboad.
I have following questions:
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2) There are 2 sets of dimm. Each set serves its own CPU, I suppose. If running single CPU can the RAM on the 2nd set of dimm be detected and used?
3) What will be the comment on xeon vs amd, same spec (apple to apple)?
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I am using Intel xeon processor on linux plotform using EL4.4. the following error message appear frequently.... the error shows like that
CPU 0 : Machine Chine Exception: 0000000000000004
Bank 0 : cc0000ff20040189 [0010c00002900300] at 0000000002008fc0
Bank 1 : f2000000000000105
Bank 2 : d000000000000153
Kernal Panic - not syncing : CPU Contest Corrupt
<0> Kernal Panic - not syncing : mm/page_alloc.c:410: spin_alloc(mm/Page_alloc.c:c036b9b4) already locked by mm/page_alloc.c/266
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Oct 11, 2010
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# cpufreq-info
cpufrequtils 005: cpufreq-info (C) Dominik Brodowski 2004-2006
Report errors and bugs to cpufreq@vger.kernel.org, please.
analyzing CPU 0:
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Jul 24, 2011
One hard drive (I'll call it hard drive 1 for the sake of this post) has windows xp and ubuntu on it. It dual boots fine and Grub is installed in the MBR. I physically removed that hard drive and installed a higher capacity hard drive (I'll call it hard drive 2). This hard drive (hard drive 2) is a dual boot (win xp and linux mint) and Grub is installed in the MBR. It works fine.
Here's what I want to do:
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2. Have a grub menu that allows me to boot any of the OS's from any of the hard drives. As such this grub menu should have 4 entries.
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