Fedora :: FC11 - Preupgrade - FC14 - Boot - 200MB
Jan 14, 2011
I'm planing to upgrade from FC11 to FC14 using a preupgrade. I've read about some ways to overcome the problem of my /boot partition being only 200MB in size while the newer versions require 500MB. The option of "filling the free space on the boot partition to be less than 100MB to cause preupgrade to download the loader" appeals to me. But what I don't understand is: is the 500MB requirement of the new versions is transient during the install or a permanent requirement? If I do this trick of first filling up the free space on /boot then freeing it up before the reboot, what will be the permanent disk space requirement of FC14?
Are there any safe (and prefarably simple) ways to increase the size of the /boot partition after decreasing the size of other partition? Here is the output of "df" relevant to the /dev/sda disk:
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May 27, 2011
i have just upgraded from f14 to f15 using preupgrade. i am now still waiting for the first boot to finish. the screen is stuck for more than an hour and the last line written was:
Started LSB: Start up the OpenSSH server daemon. and there is a blinking cursor.
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Oct 14, 2009
it's possible to use preupgrade to go directly from FC8 to FC11.
Also, I'm wondering if this will allow me to avoid formatting my hard drive or not. I'll have backups ready just in case, but was hoping maybe I could get away with not having to do the old two-step shuffle with all my data.
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Jun 29, 2011
I upgrade from FC12 to FC14 on Monday last. Yesterday, I noticed that CUPS wasn't running, so I looked at services and started it manually. The services appeared to be set to start CUPS automatically, but today again it wasn't running. Looking at messages, I now have the following 'errors' that appear to be disabling CUPS due to some form of load dependency.
Message log extract:
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Nov 3, 2010
I have with the Videocard of one of my laptops. This laptop has a Mobility Radeon X600 card (RV380 based). I always had 3D hardware acceleration with mesa (at least in Fedora 12 and 13), but now it doesn't work. Boot seems normal, but reviewing the logs, I see this in the Xorg.0.log (after loading the radeon modues):
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I don't have hardware acceleration, so no compositing and no gnome-shell I tried with both 7.9.1 and 7.9.2 versions of mesa-dri-driver (and its libs). The xorg-x11-drv-ati version is 6.13.1-0.3.20100705git37b348059.fc14
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May 27, 2010
I'm not exactly sure that it goes in 'General' but hopefully it'll be alright here Anyways I'm trying to use 'preupgrade' to update my system but it's telling me I don't have enough space on /boot. I've already followed the instructions on the Fedora Wiki for removing unused Kernels and the like to try to free up more space. Here is what I have when I check the space on /boot :
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Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda1 198337 71584 126753 37% /boot
Is 126MB not enough? :s
What can I do? Should I be looking to expand the /boot partition's actual size? EDIT: I don't know if it affects anything, but I am running Fedora on an HP Mini 1000 with a 16GB SSD and have about 6.9GBs free overall.
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May 26, 2011
I am trying to upgrade my F12 system ti F15 using the PreUgrade route. The initial package download goes Ok but on re-boot I can only access my old F12 system. df reports 44M avail in /boot which is on sdd1. Since I do have a multiboot system I checked that there was an "update" folder under "boot" and that it had the update versions of vmlinuz and initrd which it had. I edited "menu 1st" as described in the Pre-Upgrade notes setting the root entry to (hd0,0) as used for my working system and then did a re-boot. I selected the new upgrade entry in the GRUB menu but the system complained that it couldn't find a file. I have tried using root (hd3,0) but this does not work either. What am I doing wrong?
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Jun 10, 2009
I guess this is the right forum category for this. Am using the preupgrade method to go from F10 to F11.Downloading packages now. Just wondering if anybody knows if Anaconda will give me options to set up separate (ext3) partition for boot? (Since current grub won't work in the new ext4 file system scheme.)
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Nov 17, 2009
It appears that the default boot partition is too small for F12 preupgrade:[URL].. Did anyone try to see if enough space is freed by following these steps? : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpg...ace_in_.2Fboot
Namely,
1. Leave only 1 kernel
2. tune2fs -r 0 /dev/xxx
3. remove /boot/efi and splash.xpm.gz
"preupgrade now requires at least 167MB" means more space could be needed, and I'm unclear if the above is sufficient.
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Oct 18, 2010
You probably know by heart the old tale of the guy who is preupgrading for as long as he can remember and eventually finds out /boot is too small for F13. Since removing old kernels didn't free enough space, I am now considering resizing /boot to 500MB. After reading stuff around the internet I have a rough idea of how to proceed (for instance, that I will need to install GRUB on the relocated /boot, etc. etc.), but since I do not want to run unnecessary risks I would like to ask you to do a sanity check on my plans. My HD is currently laid out like this:
/dev/sda1 : 128GiB, ntfs, contains a (broken) Windows installation and some other stuff.
/dev/sda2 : 131GiB, ntfs, holds the FLAC rips of my CDs and other important space-wasting stuff.
/dev/sda3 : 196 MiB, ext3, /boot of course.
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Nov 8, 2010
I'm trying to run preupgrade to upgrade to fedora 14 from fedora 12 and get a message saying there is not enough space in /boot/upgrade. I've found some instructions on how to make more room in the boot directory but I get an error near the last step as I have noted below:
Method 1: Free up space
First, try to remove any kernel packages not currently in use on your system. The kernel-prune.py script can be used to identify kernels that may be safely removed. If you choose to remove additional kernels, be prepared with installation media should you be unable to return to your previously installed system.
The installer will need approximately 26M of free space in /boot. Use the following command to determine the amount of free space in the /boot partition:
df -h /boot
To identify kernels that may be safely removed, run the following from a command line:
curl -O '[URL]'
chmod a+x kernel-prune.py
./kernel-prune.py
Now, to actually remove the kernel versions listed by the above command, run the following as root:
# PKGS=`./kernel-prune.py`
# echo $PKGS
# yum remove $PKGS
Next, adjust the number of reserved filesystem blocks using the command tune2fs. You'll first need to identify the block device for your /boot file system. In the example below, /dev/sda1 is the block device for the /boot filesystem.
# mount | grep "/boot"
/dev/sda1 on /boot type ext4 (rw)
I get this far and get the following Error:
[root@localhost ~]# mount | grep "/boot"
/dev/sda1 on /boot type ext3 (rw)
[root@localhost ~]# /dev/sda1 on /boot tupe ext3 (rw)
-bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[root@localhost ~]# mount | grep "/boot" /dev/sda1 on /boot/type ext3 (rw)
-bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[root@localhost ~]#
Now, adjust the number of reserved blocks for the /boot filesystem using the command tune2fs. Normally, a small amount of space on ext filesystem formatted partitions is 'reserved' and can only be used by the system administrator; this is to prevent an entirely full partition from rendering a system unbootable, and allow the administrator some space in which to work in order to clean up 'full' partitions. However, neither of this cases really applies to the /boot filesystem, so removing this reserved space is safe.
# tune2fs -r 0 /dev/sda1
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Sep 6, 2009
i did a preupgrade from fedora 10, i have a new line in grub with the "preupgrade to fedora 11" ... when i choose this.. anaconda run with the normal blue screen running anaconda... but a blacks screen apper with the mouse... the installation not follow and only the black screen with the mouse i can see...some line add to the kernel line of preupgrade fedora 11 to run with another graphical configuration
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Sep 19, 2009
I was impressed to be asked on Fedora 10 if I want to upgrade to Fedora 11 but the first time I tried I had this error:
Not enough space in /boot/upgrade to download install.img.
My boot partition is 99MB and AFAIK that is not unusual so I tried tidying up a bit, uninstalling all except 2 kernels, and now have about 80MB for whatever needs to be downloaded in /boot/upgrade. But I get the same error. I can fix this by using wired instead of wireless networking but I want to know for planning purposes (next time I create a boot partition) how much space is required?
$ ls -l /boot/upgrade
total 21594
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18985802 2009-06-03 00:02 initrd.img
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3035056 2009-06-03 00:02 vmlinuz
Should I delete these? It looks like they might be left over from last time but I assume preupgrade knows what is junk and what isn't.
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Sep 9, 2009
I was on version 2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11.x86_64 and it asked me to update so I did. When I restarted I chose this version to install and after a brief loading screen it goes to a black screen with a cursor prompt and pretty much stays there. So I go back to 2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11.x86_64 which boots up just fine. But after a while I get some updates that won't install because it says that Packages are not compatible:Install - Linux Kernal 2.6.30.5-43.fc11(x86_64)
ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve:
kernel-uname-r = 2.6.27.19-170.2.35.fc10.x86_64 is needed by kmod-nvidia-2.6.27.19-170.2.35.fc10.x86_64-180.29-1.fc10.1.x86_64
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Aug 17, 2009
Running kernel-PAE-2.6.29.6-217.2.7.fc11.i686
Boot hangs on 'starting atd'
Select 217.2.3 and it boots OK.
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Sep 30, 2009
I've lost my boot manager ,can't boot from harddisk ! I've installed F11 x86_64 kde livecd on a partition aside with FC10 and windows xp, created a /boot ext3 partition + a " / " ext4 root partition and a swap partition shared with F10.I've tried to restore booting windows xp with the windoze restore cd with the "fixmbr" tool, but it did'nt fix i
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Dec 3, 2009
I have installed last updates about 3 days ago. After this Fedora kernel 2.6.30.9-99.fc11.x86_64 does not start.booting it the last message I see"ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP):wlan0: link is not ready" then it stops. I have to boot with a previous kernel version 2.6.30.9-96.fc11.x86_64.
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Jun 11, 2009
I just upgraded via preupgrade-cli (from FC10), rebooted, the upgrade process completed, then the system rebooted and I just see a blinking white cursor now.I was able to boot up from a live cd of FC11, but I'm not sure how I can repair the system.
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Jul 16, 2009
So, I had fun with this one the past week. I had an FC11 system running just fine. Then one day it would not boot - it was hung somewhere inside the init script of the initrd image. CTRL-ALT-DEL would reboot the system. Using grub editor, I could temporarily delete the initrd line and boot into the system OK. But what was going on?
mkinitrd was of no help to me. I even did a yum update, which got a new kernel, which also generated a new initrd - no joy. I extracted the initrd file system and edited the init script. I eventually hit on this tidbit: If I commented out this line:
daemonize --ignore-missing /bin/plymouthd and rebuild the initrd image - the system would finally at least tell me what the problem was: mount failed for selinuxfs on /selinux. No such file or directory.
So, I examine the root (the real root, not the initrd temporary root) - and sure enough, no /selinux. I make one and reboot. The system goes into a "targeted policy relabel" operation, reboots, and I am back in business - even with my original, unmodified, initrd.
I have no idea what happened to my /selinux directory, but I think the initrd "init" script needs to check for this directory's existance, and make it if necessary. Or at least report that it isn't there. In FC11 right now the system just HANGS without this directory being present, without any clue as to what the problem is!
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Sep 4, 2009
I'm running into this issue after installing Fedora Core 11 off DVD. Anaconda install the first part of the installation, then after reboot it goes into run level 3 (I think, where you have to login as root) I noticed that it said xserver failed to load before it actually boots Anaconda.
Maybe I should pull a graphic's card? I have logged in as root after the base install and did a lspci, and you can see the two Nvidia Quadro FX1700's and you can tell it is an intel board with the Intel Corp 6311ESB/6321ESB PCI Express ports. Also you can navigate through the linux directories via ls \. I tried YUM to find/install the graphics drivers but it says something about metadata not being configured. I checked the IP address with ifconfig and had to manually assign an ip.
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Oct 18, 2009
I had Fedora11 (default layout) running on a separate hard drive (winXP on the other drive). After the FC drive failure I replaced the drive and did a fresh install again. This time I tried a custom layout to keep the /home on a separate partition. The installation went without a hitch, but on first boot the system hangs with "Verifying DMI Pool Data......"
XP boots fine though. Looks like grub doesn't get loaded. I can boot with the installation cd and get into recovery mode, everything seems fine on the fedora disk. Fdisk result:
Grub.conf:
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Nov 6, 2010
I ran preupgrade - it took hours seemed ok it told me that the boot partition was not large enough but that it would install whatever at boot time provided my internet connection was "hard wired" - not exactly clear what that means but i have a ethernet connection to my dsl modem - which sounded hard wired to me - so i told it to go ahead at the end it told me to boot i did, but system hangs with cursor at top left corner booted again and interrupted the bootloader see i have the choice to boot the new fedora13 or the last fedora 12 fedora 13 does not boot fedora 12 does boot
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Nov 5, 2010
I am interesting in hearing from anyone who has used preupgrade to upgrade from f13 to f14.
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Jan 4, 2010
I have try to install fedora 11 with windows XP dual boot, but when fedora 11 is install, it will compeletly remove the already installed windows XP, while fedora 8, it works nice with windows XP, and is good dual boot OS at the same time.if any thing is new in fedora 11 or 12 with respect to dual booting,
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Feb 22, 2009
I'm not an early adopter; i prefer to wait and see, and let others suffer the new distro's teething troubles. Finally, I decided to try preupgrade. I was a little astonished to find that it doesn't install itself to any menu, but that's OK. I ran it as root, and went on with what I was doing while it got ready. Eventually it prompted me to reboot and I did.
I'd like to say that everything went fine, and in about an hour, I had a working system with no glitches. Alas, that would be a lie. Not only did it change all my customized system sounds (with no apparent way of getting back what I want; the new sounds aren't selectable.) it replaced my carefully-tweaked fstab with one of its own. This mean that several partitions that I don't want mounted were. Not only that, in some cases right-click and unmount got a message that the partition wasn't mounted, even though I could browse it. I had to open a terminal and manually unmount them, followed by copying back my fstab to keep this from happening again.
While doing this, I learned that the arrow keys on my keyboard don't work right, with the up arrow mapped to screen shot, and the Enter key by the number pad disabled. I'm still working around that one.
Worst was that Firefox wouldn't open. Trying it from a terminal, I learned that it couldn't start XCOM. Weird.
I tried a system update, but the livna issue popped up. By good luck, I knew enough to locate the appropriate file and disable it. Yumex has been spending over four hours, downloading and installing more updates than preupgrade did, by almost 100%.
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Jun 9, 2010
failure: repodata/3a2a6da78e69f9b2608b1c399561b99073baa86b5454618459 ceecb79d58da09-filelists.sqlite.bz2 from preupgrade-updates: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try.
I receive this error when I run try to run preupgrade to go from F12 to F13.
It's definitely not an issue with my internet connection, I'm running this from a college campus with a 150mbps connection.
I've tried running it 3 times now, and get this every time. It also gives me the error about not enough space on the boot partition, so I press continue there to move on.
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Jun 19, 2010
just upgraded fc12 -> fc13 with preupgrade. all seems well except for network manager icon missing from the systemtray and therefor unable to connect to wifi. uninstalled network manager and reinstaled but to no avail. wifi is a bcm4318 airforce one btw, broadcom kernel stuff is loaded but maybe in fc13 its supported in the kernel now?
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Dec 13, 2010
if I can upgrade my fedora fedora 12 to 14, using preupgrade?
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May 29, 2010
Going from Fedora 12 to 13. Got to the point where I have to reboot to install, system reboots to 12. This is a triple boot system with Open Suse and Mint, and the grub2 bootloader from Mint is the bootloader for the whole shebang. In the "how to use preupgrade" instructions there's a line that says "dentify the drive and partition of your Fedora /boot folder." How? If that sounds odd, consider that in my set up "computer" shows 4 partitions (and with just three operating systems..?). I can mount them, but have a problem telling which sytem is Fedora, Suse or Mint. And getting the FEDORA bootloader to find the PREUPGRADE kernel ... Momma said there'd be days like this.
cat /etc/fstab just returned /dev/sda1 on /boot. I installed Fedora first, before Suse or Mint, so being on the first drive or partition sounds right, but the multiple drives throws me, and "just guessing" doesn't seem like the way to go.
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Oct 17, 2009
I went to upgrade my daughters machine that was running F9 using preupgrade-cli after having issues with mirrors timing out it finally completed the first part with the notification install will start once you reboot. so I rebooted the machine and when it rebooted the grub menu came up with the F9 install selected but with an option for the F11 Upgrade I choose the upgrade and it starts and I see the installation screen with the stop watch and all of a sudden the comp restarts now at the grub menu again and there is no option for F11 upgrade so I boot into F9 try to run it again and it throws a bunch of errors about the rpm database... Encountering this before i run
rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db*
rpm -vv --rebuilddb
yum clean all
but yum just blows errors now and if I run rpm -qa it returns nothing. Is there any recovering from this? or should I back up the home dirs and do a fresh install? this is the output of the rebuild
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D: rebuilding database /var/lib/rpm into /var/lib/rpmrebuilddb.2367
D: creating directory /var/lib/rpmrebuilddb.2367
D: opening old database with dbapi 3
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