Fedora Installation :: How Much Space Preupgrade Require In Boot Partition
Sep 19, 2009
I was impressed to be asked on Fedora 10 if I want to upgrade to Fedora 11 but the first time I tried I had this error:
Not enough space in /boot/upgrade to download install.img.
My boot partition is 99MB and AFAIK that is not unusual so I tried tidying up a bit, uninstalling all except 2 kernels, and now have about 80MB for whatever needs to be downloaded in /boot/upgrade. But I get the same error. I can fix this by using wired instead of wireless networking but I want to know for planning purposes (next time I create a boot partition) how much space is required?
$ ls -l /boot/upgrade
total 21594
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18985802 2009-06-03 00:02 initrd.img
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3035056 2009-06-03 00:02 vmlinuz
Should I delete these? It looks like they might be left over from last time but I assume preupgrade knows what is junk and what isn't.
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Nov 8, 2010
I'm trying to run preupgrade to upgrade to fedora 14 from fedora 12 and get a message saying there is not enough space in /boot/upgrade. I've found some instructions on how to make more room in the boot directory but I get an error near the last step as I have noted below:
Method 1: Free up space
First, try to remove any kernel packages not currently in use on your system. The kernel-prune.py script can be used to identify kernels that may be safely removed. If you choose to remove additional kernels, be prepared with installation media should you be unable to return to your previously installed system.
The installer will need approximately 26M of free space in /boot. Use the following command to determine the amount of free space in the /boot partition:
df -h /boot
To identify kernels that may be safely removed, run the following from a command line:
curl -O '[URL]'
chmod a+x kernel-prune.py
./kernel-prune.py
Now, to actually remove the kernel versions listed by the above command, run the following as root:
# PKGS=`./kernel-prune.py`
# echo $PKGS
# yum remove $PKGS
Next, adjust the number of reserved filesystem blocks using the command tune2fs. You'll first need to identify the block device for your /boot file system. In the example below, /dev/sda1 is the block device for the /boot filesystem.
# mount | grep "/boot"
/dev/sda1 on /boot type ext4 (rw)
I get this far and get the following Error:
[root@localhost ~]# mount | grep "/boot"
/dev/sda1 on /boot type ext3 (rw)
[root@localhost ~]# /dev/sda1 on /boot tupe ext3 (rw)
-bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[root@localhost ~]# mount | grep "/boot" /dev/sda1 on /boot/type ext3 (rw)
-bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[root@localhost ~]#
Now, adjust the number of reserved blocks for the /boot filesystem using the command tune2fs. Normally, a small amount of space on ext filesystem formatted partitions is 'reserved' and can only be used by the system administrator; this is to prevent an entirely full partition from rendering a system unbootable, and allow the administrator some space in which to work in order to clean up 'full' partitions. However, neither of this cases really applies to the /boot filesystem, so removing this reserved space is safe.
# tune2fs -r 0 /dev/sda1
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Jun 10, 2009
I guess this is the right forum category for this. Am using the preupgrade method to go from F10 to F11.Downloading packages now. Just wondering if anybody knows if Anaconda will give me options to set up separate (ext3) partition for boot? (Since current grub won't work in the new ext4 file system scheme.)
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Nov 17, 2009
It appears that the default boot partition is too small for F12 preupgrade:[URL].. Did anyone try to see if enough space is freed by following these steps? : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpg...ace_in_.2Fboot
Namely,
1. Leave only 1 kernel
2. tune2fs -r 0 /dev/xxx
3. remove /boot/efi and splash.xpm.gz
"preupgrade now requires at least 167MB" means more space could be needed, and I'm unclear if the above is sufficient.
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Oct 18, 2010
You probably know by heart the old tale of the guy who is preupgrading for as long as he can remember and eventually finds out /boot is too small for F13. Since removing old kernels didn't free enough space, I am now considering resizing /boot to 500MB. After reading stuff around the internet I have a rough idea of how to proceed (for instance, that I will need to install GRUB on the relocated /boot, etc. etc.), but since I do not want to run unnecessary risks I would like to ask you to do a sanity check on my plans. My HD is currently laid out like this:
/dev/sda1 : 128GiB, ntfs, contains a (broken) Windows installation and some other stuff.
/dev/sda2 : 131GiB, ntfs, holds the FLAC rips of my CDs and other important space-wasting stuff.
/dev/sda3 : 196 MiB, ext3, /boot of course.
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May 27, 2010
I'm not exactly sure that it goes in 'General' but hopefully it'll be alright here Anyways I'm trying to use 'preupgrade' to update my system but it's telling me I don't have enough space on /boot. I've already followed the instructions on the Fedora Wiki for removing unused Kernels and the like to try to free up more space. Here is what I have when I check the space on /boot :
Code:
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda1 198337 71584 126753 37% /boot
Is 126MB not enough? :s
What can I do? Should I be looking to expand the /boot partition's actual size? EDIT: I don't know if it affects anything, but I am running Fedora on an HP Mini 1000 with a 16GB SSD and have about 6.9GBs free overall.
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Jun 16, 2010
I know this has been covered a lot but it seems as though there should be a definitive answer and I have yet to find one.How much free space in /boot is required to make preupgrade work? I have 173M, which according to the figures I've seen should be enough, but the preupdate client still complains. Any workarounds? I have already tunefs'ed and deleted old kernels.
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May 29, 2010
Going from Fedora 12 to 13. Got to the point where I have to reboot to install, system reboots to 12. This is a triple boot system with Open Suse and Mint, and the grub2 bootloader from Mint is the bootloader for the whole shebang. In the "how to use preupgrade" instructions there's a line that says "dentify the drive and partition of your Fedora /boot folder." How? If that sounds odd, consider that in my set up "computer" shows 4 partitions (and with just three operating systems..?). I can mount them, but have a problem telling which sytem is Fedora, Suse or Mint. And getting the FEDORA bootloader to find the PREUPGRADE kernel ... Momma said there'd be days like this.
cat /etc/fstab just returned /dev/sda1 on /boot. I installed Fedora first, before Suse or Mint, so being on the first drive or partition sounds right, but the multiple drives throws me, and "just guessing" doesn't seem like the way to go.
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Apr 20, 2011
using onboard windows disk management i have made 75gb unallocated to add to the aforementioned ntfs data partition. but, after resizing extended partition, will i need to fix grub even though i will be adding the unallocated space to a storage partition and not the ubuntu boot partition?
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Nov 6, 2010
I ran preupgrade - it took hours seemed ok it told me that the boot partition was not large enough but that it would install whatever at boot time provided my internet connection was "hard wired" - not exactly clear what that means but i have a ethernet connection to my dsl modem - which sounded hard wired to me - so i told it to go ahead at the end it told me to boot i did, but system hangs with cursor at top left corner booted again and interrupted the bootloader see i have the choice to boot the new fedora13 or the last fedora 12 fedora 13 does not boot fedora 12 does boot
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Sep 6, 2009
i did a preupgrade from fedora 10, i have a new line in grub with the "preupgrade to fedora 11" ... when i choose this.. anaconda run with the normal blue screen running anaconda... but a blacks screen apper with the mouse... the installation not follow and only the black screen with the mouse i can see...some line add to the kernel line of preupgrade fedora 11 to run with another graphical configuration
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May 27, 2011
i have just upgraded from f14 to f15 using preupgrade. i am now still waiting for the first boot to finish. the screen is stuck for more than an hour and the last line written was:
Started LSB: Start up the OpenSSH server daemon. and there is a blinking cursor.
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Jun 20, 2010
I had to reinstall my Ubuntu 10.04 system after some trouble trying to remove a FAT32 partition. I reinstalled using the Live Ubuntu CD (not Ubuntu Studio CD) and seems to work fine. I want to know if its normal to have an unallocated space before the boot partition? I installed GRUB2 in the sdb1, not in main sdb. Ubuntu boots fine, but I was wondering if the unallocated space affects it being detected properly by other systems? When I boot OS X I get an error that the HD is not formatted. Previously I was not getting the error. OS X & Ubuntu are each on a separate SATA HD and Windows XP is on a third IDE HD.
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Jun 15, 2011
My boot partition doesn't have any space left, rendering me unable to install any updates. Most space in the boot directory (85 MB) is taken by the following files:
initrd.img-2.6.32-24-generic
initrd.img-2.6.32-26-generic
initrd.img-2.6.32-27-generic
initrd.img-2.6.32-28-generic
initrd.img-2.6.32-29-generic
initrd.img-2.6.32-30-generic
It seems to me that I�d need at most one of these. What exactly do (or did) these initial ramdisks do, and is it safe to delete them?
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Apr 23, 2010
how much disk space a non manual dual boot uses? I've always been guided by a person knowing much about linux when doing my dual boot (and been guided to do the partitions manualy), but this person is not there for the moment and I need to do a dual boot on my son's computer. Since he'll need his Windows computer mainly for games I wouldn't want Ubuntu to take 2/3 of his disk space (which is about 250 Gb I think, let's say 50 Gb would be perfect for the Ubuntu)
And I'm not sure how I could change this later, cause in my own computer I cannot find how to resize (I cannot unmount neither resize the partitions I have) I don't mean I need to do this on my computer but I mean I wouldn't want to try out anything if I'm not sure it be could restored in 1,2,3. And partitions is such a thing. If I remember correctly I've done dual boot by default (i mean without doing the partitions manualy) and it does about 50/50 ?
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Jan 20, 2011
I have F14 live on a USB stick and the PC boots fine from this.Now I want to install to the HDD but I need to get a handle on the existing partitions.I don't need too much space for linux, can I delete the 3rd and 4th partitions (D drive and EFI partition) and add my linux partition in this space?Investigation so far suggests that the EFI partition is not used and the D drive is empty.
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Aug 24, 2011
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Nov 5, 2009
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May 17, 2010
I just downloaded the new fedora and proceed to install it into a free space of 11GB on my HDD. As such the partitioner is unable to create more than 1 partitioneven if free space is available, it reports not enough free space seen if its present. As such it can create only one of the three partitions i.e., swap or / or /home duw to which cannot proceed ahead.' Some more details me running Xp as the other OS on my system.
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Oct 4, 2010
I have a 80GB HDD on which I have installed Ubuntu10.04. I have about 45GB space remaining. I am trying to install Fedora13. I create : 2GB / partition - 2.4GB swap partition. I want to create 6GB /usr partition and it says not enough disk space? Why is it giving that message?
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Aug 16, 2009
I have just over 20GB of empty space on C:. When I click it under disk-management, the window comes up and says I can only resize it 192 MB less than what it is. But I have 20GB free. Any ideas on what is wrong? I also have this odd 9.56GB partition that is empty. DM says it's "EISA configuration"...whatever that is. I am planning to allocate about 10GB for F11 if this pans out ok.
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May 26, 2011
I am trying to upgrade my F12 system ti F15 using the PreUgrade route. The initial package download goes Ok but on re-boot I can only access my old F12 system. df reports 44M avail in /boot which is on sdd1. Since I do have a multiboot system I checked that there was an "update" folder under "boot" and that it had the update versions of vmlinuz and initrd which it had. I edited "menu 1st" as described in the Pre-Upgrade notes setting the root entry to (hd0,0) as used for my working system and then did a re-boot. I selected the new upgrade entry in the GRUB menu but the system complained that it couldn't find a file. I have tried using root (hd3,0) but this does not work either. What am I doing wrong?
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Nov 22, 2010
Im trying to shrink a 80 Gb ntfs partition. but when i clicked the shrink option the partition is like this:
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Jan 14, 2011
I'm planing to upgrade from FC11 to FC14 using a preupgrade. I've read about some ways to overcome the problem of my /boot partition being only 200MB in size while the newer versions require 500MB. The option of "filling the free space on the boot partition to be less than 100MB to cause preupgrade to download the loader" appeals to me. But what I don't understand is: is the 500MB requirement of the new versions is transient during the install or a permanent requirement? If I do this trick of first filling up the free space on /boot then freeing it up before the reboot, what will be the permanent disk space requirement of FC14?
Are there any safe (and prefarably simple) ways to increase the size of the /boot partition after decreasing the size of other partition? Here is the output of "df" relevant to the /dev/sda disk:
Code:
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May 6, 2011
I am running a dual boot system with Win7 on /dev/sda and Ubuntu 10.10 on /dev/sdb
I also have a 250 GB disk I use for storing backup data, /dev/sdc
The two logical partitions on /dev/sdc (/dev/sdc2 and /dev/sdc5) each take up 2.86 GB and I would like to free up that space if possible.
Since the filesystem on /dev/sdc doesn't have an OS on it, does it still require that those two logical partitions exist?
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Jul 27, 2009
I have a brand new thinkpad X301 with 4GB of RAM and thinking of getting fedora 11 on it. The plan is to have it triple boot with vista/seven and hopefully OSx86. I am aware of the 4 primary partitions limit on an MBR disk. I was thinking of having a swap file instead of swap partition and not creating a boot partition as well. If I install the boot loader(GRUB?) on the root partition will I be able to boot it without any problems by using vista's boot loader?
Or Maybe I should install GRUB on the MBR and add all the other operating systems on it? Does anyone have any objections for not creating a swap partition or a boot partition? When comes to desktop environment I've been using KDE in the past, is there any major advantage of using Gnome over it? KDE seems to look really nice on fedora where Gnome is maybe more stable?
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Jul 18, 2011
I originally had an Ubuntu partition on my hard drive which occupied about half of it. I installed Windows 7 in the remaining unallocated space and I was planning on doing a grub update from a live cd afterwards. BUT when I looked at my partition table, the space where the ubuntu partition used to be is now unallocated space!
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Feb 22, 2009
I'm not an early adopter; i prefer to wait and see, and let others suffer the new distro's teething troubles. Finally, I decided to try preupgrade. I was a little astonished to find that it doesn't install itself to any menu, but that's OK. I ran it as root, and went on with what I was doing while it got ready. Eventually it prompted me to reboot and I did.
I'd like to say that everything went fine, and in about an hour, I had a working system with no glitches. Alas, that would be a lie. Not only did it change all my customized system sounds (with no apparent way of getting back what I want; the new sounds aren't selectable.) it replaced my carefully-tweaked fstab with one of its own. This mean that several partitions that I don't want mounted were. Not only that, in some cases right-click and unmount got a message that the partition wasn't mounted, even though I could browse it. I had to open a terminal and manually unmount them, followed by copying back my fstab to keep this from happening again.
While doing this, I learned that the arrow keys on my keyboard don't work right, with the up arrow mapped to screen shot, and the Enter key by the number pad disabled. I'm still working around that one.
Worst was that Firefox wouldn't open. Trying it from a terminal, I learned that it couldn't start XCOM. Weird.
I tried a system update, but the livna issue popped up. By good luck, I knew enough to locate the appropriate file and disable it. Yumex has been spending over four hours, downloading and installing more updates than preupgrade did, by almost 100%.
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Jun 9, 2010
failure: repodata/3a2a6da78e69f9b2608b1c399561b99073baa86b5454618459 ceecb79d58da09-filelists.sqlite.bz2 from preupgrade-updates: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try.
I receive this error when I run try to run preupgrade to go from F12 to F13.
It's definitely not an issue with my internet connection, I'm running this from a college campus with a 150mbps connection.
I've tried running it 3 times now, and get this every time. It also gives me the error about not enough space on the boot partition, so I press continue there to move on.
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Jun 17, 2009
I've got Fedora 11 working fine on an HP Mini 2140 netbook. (Wireless works after enabling the rpmfusion repo and installing the broadcom-wl driver.) Now I want to try to put Moblin 2.0 on the netbook as a dual boot.
Unfortunately the Moblin installer (Anaconda? Looks like it.) reports that there's no free space on the / volume. It looks like what's going on is that Fedora 11 created two partitions: /boot and /; and the / partition is LVM and uses all the rest of the available space on the hard drive.
I want to continue using Fedora 11's bootloader for any dual boot. So, basic question #1: Is the solution to create another partition for the Moblin install, or to resize the existing / LV in the existing LV group, and then create another LV for the Moblin install? In other words, can I install another OS on a second LV in the same LVG?
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