Debian Installation :: GRUB In Boot Partition?
Jun 19, 2012
I am new to Debian but have some basic experience with Linux and am currently trying to triple boot Windows 7, Fedora 16, and Debian on an HP Pavilion dv7. I have the Windows Boot Loader on my MBR because I've heard that Windows updates can cause boot issues if GRUB is installed there. This means that I've been installing GRUB in the /boot partition for each Linux distro and creating corresponding entries in the Windows boot menu.
This has worked in the past with both Fedora and Ubuntu, but I have not been able to work around it with Debian. When I choose my Debian option in the Windows boot loader, it loads GRUB but hangs after it prints "Welcome to GRUB!", and I have to restart the computer. I would like to hear what more experienced Linux users have to say both about why this isn't working for Debian and about if keeping the WIndows boot loader is the right way to go.
Also, here is my partition layout:
Partition 1: SYSTEM (HP pre-installed) (209 MB)
Partition 2: Windows Partition (472 GB)
Partition 3: Extended (160 GB)
1: /boot for Fedora (524 MB)
2: Physical Volume for other Fedora partitions (79 GB)
3: /boot for Debian (749 MB)
4: Physical Volume for other Debian partitions (80 GB)
118 GB free space
Partition 4: HP_TOOLS (HP pre-installed) (108 MB)
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Sep 21, 2010
I was installing sqeeze i386 on my laptop VOSTRO 1400 and got this the 'grub-pc' package failed to install into /target/. without the GRUB boot loader, the installed system will not boot.
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Apr 10, 2010
I had a dual boot system(WinXP and Ubuntu). But something happened and I was not able to boot into my Ubuntu partition. It gave GRUB missing error. I tried reformatting the dedicated 40 GB ubuntu partition to NTFS and again try to reinstall ubuntu. But now, when I install ubuntu through boot time install, it shows that my whole hard disk is empty( but I have windows XP on whole hdd at the moment) and do not give any other option but to use whole hdd.
Alternatively when I try to install it inside windows, then after rebooting it shows, no root file system defined error and neither gives any option to do so also ( this method worked earlier o my PC). At the moment, It still shows ubuntu and windowsXP at OS choice menu at boot time but when booting in ubuntu, it shows GRUB missing. (I don't have any ubuntu installation on my hard disk at the moment).
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Aug 25, 2010
While installing with a separate /boot partition I cannot get two distinct copies of ubu installed on one machine and be able to choose between them. Each is installed on a different hard drive. x64 versions. I've had this issue both ways:
Stepsinstall mythbuntu
install ubuntu
Result
Two entries in grub. Both cause ubuntu to boot
Stepsinstall ubuntu
install mythbuntu
Result
Two entries in grub. Both cause mythbuntu to boot Grub 2 is so unfriendly for fixing these things. I don't know where to make changes. Ok, Grub 2 is very powerful, maybe it's the lagging documentation, or lack of tutorials that is the problem. But I don't know how to fix this. Do I start over without the /boot partition? Do I bail on ubu?
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Feb 3, 2011
I'm dual boot with Vista(TM) and UBUNTU(tm) and ran out of space on Ubuntu partition:I booted Ubuntu 10.04LTS live CD and shrank the VISTA. It would NOT let me grow the extended partition? So now I have:
sda1 ntfs /media/TOSHIBA_SYSTEM_VOLUME 1.46GB
sda2 ntfs /media/SQ004588V03 88GB
sda4 ext3 THIS IS MY NEW PARTITION 15GB
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Feb 13, 2009
I somehow recalled a rule re the location of the boot partitions with LILO being required to be in the first part of the drive (1024 cylinders, it seems) and I found it indeed in an old doc:
Boot Partition: Your boot partition ought to be a primary partition, not a logical partition. This will ease recovery in case of disaster, but it is not technically necessary. It must be of type 0x83 "Linux native". If you are using lilo, your boot partition must be contained within the first 1024 cylinders of the drive. (Typically, the boot partition need only contain the kernel image.) Is this still valid in GRUB, esp in Fedora 10?
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Jan 17, 2011
I set up my Dell Inspiron Laptop as Dual Boot -> Xp / Ubuntu 10.04. - all worked well. I had 2 installations of XP on this machine and I removed one - all worked well. I then went into XP and deleted the partion (4) that the old XP had resided on (using Easeus Partition Master) All NOT working well !! Now when booting the machine I get grub rescue> I did ls and got ....
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Jan 21, 2011
Here's what I want to do. I have two separate HDD
HDD 1 : 160 GB (dedicated to windows, already working)
HDD 2 : 500 GB Will be using dedicated to ubuntu (not partitioned yet)
I want to use the HDD two only for linux and this HDD is not partitioned yet. What I want to do is
- A dedicated Grub partition (/boot) on HDD 2 (Do I really need it when I am using just two os? Will it work on second HDD?)
- / root partition
- /home partition
- /swap partition
- /fat32 partition (do I need it to share files with win?)
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Mar 27, 2010
Noobish question on multibooting multiple Linux distros. I have four of the current major Linux distributions. Each has been installed and run individually (no other Linux distribution installed) in a dual-boot configuration with Windoze. No problem.
What I want to do is install all four Linux distributions and multiboot them. Reading the internet it would seem this is a simple task with GRUB. The short version being - install a Linux distro with a separate /boot partition for GRUB and use GRUB to boot the other Linux distros from the GRUB boot menu.
So I installed one of the Linux distros with a separate partition for /boot. The distro installer installed GRUB in /boot and correctly setup a dual-boot configuration with Windoze. GRUB was installed to the MBR. Next I installed a second Linux distro in its own root partition and told the distros installer NOT to install GRUB to the MBR, but rather, to the boot sector of the root partion of the second Linux distro. Installation was uneventful (and I could access the second Linux partition from the first installed Linux distro, things looked ok). Then I added to following to the installed (MBR - /boot) GRUB's menu.lst:
Code: title lixux distro 2
root (hd0,7)
chainloader +1 After which I rebooted the system and the new entry for the second Linux distro now appears in the GRUB boot menu. I selected the second Linux distro from the boot menu and got the following GRUB error: Error 5 : Partition table invalid or corrupt
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Nov 1, 2010
I got ubuntu 10.04 lucid lynx along with windows (dual boot) and using Grub. On my computer, I have my C:/ (programs) and D:/ (data). I've never used my D:/ before that day that I've lost my windows partition on my grub menu. I usually use my D:/ with windows. The first time I used my D:/ to store data with linux, I lost my windows option in my grub menu. I'm not sure what I did wrong but I do want to restore my windows option in my grub menu.
After "fdisk -l",
I checked in /boot/grub and there is no menu.lst to modify. how I can get back my windows option in my grub menu ?
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Feb 25, 2010
I having a problem getting my grub loader to see one of my hard drives. I added a drive, and my grub loader lost track of where everything was. I couldn't get my old linux (Red Hat 9) so I installed SuSe on my new hard drive. But I need my be able to boot from my old hard drive because it has apps that only run on the earlier version. From /proc/partitions the old hard drive is sdd
major minor #blocks name
8 0 976762584 sda
8 1 2104483 sda1
8 2 20972857 sda2
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Mar 9, 2010
is it possible to use a Windows-based recovery partition on a dual-boot computer to overwrite the Ubuntu partition and remove the GRUB loader? For instance, if you booted up your computer, accessed the hidden recovery partition and used it to reset the computer to it's factory default settings, would that effectively remove the Ubuntu partition and the GRUB loader? Would a completely new installation of Windows overwrite/uninstall Ubuntu and GRUB automatically?
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Mar 1, 2015
I have an hp pavilion 15-b106ed with UEFI. I disabled secure boot and installed debian jessie form the CD1 iso (RC1 installer) burned to an USB key. Installation went smoothly, but after rebooting I get grub's terminal-like screen saying:
"GNU GRUB version 2.02 beta2-9ubuntu1. Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported... etc"
The problem is that as soon as I turn on the computer that grub screen shows up and I can't boot from USB anymore nor
access the BIOS settings, no matter how fast I press F9, F10 and such. I guess I have to tell him to boot from the USB using the grub terminal...
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Oct 29, 2010
I just netinstalled Squeeze to a netbook with Windows7. The installation went well without any problem. Linux is also working OK. When I boot now, grub does not show Windows7. I took default settings during installation. I mean I did not do anything special. What should i do to fix it? Should I run osprober and grub-update?
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Dec 26, 2010
I recently bought a netbook on which Windows 7 Start Edition was installed. I partitioned the disk to install 2 other linux distributions : Backtrack 4 and Debian Lenny. Here is my partition scheme :
Disk /dev/sdb: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xc6a9bf3e
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Partition table entries are not in disk order During both of the installs, I chose to install Grub. Unfortunately, when I start my netbook, it launches Windows 7 automatically and I do not see grub...
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Mar 21, 2011
I've been using squeeze for a year or two now, on a PC dual booting with windows xp. Not long ago I thought that, as it's now become the stable release version, I'd do a fresh install, which I've been trying to do with the first two dvds. The installation proceeds as expected, up to and including setting grub. However, although grub saysthat it has detected windows xp, and I tell it to set up the dual boot, the computer on reboot goes straight into windows xp, with no on-scrteen option shown for choosing debian.
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Dec 31, 2010
Is there recommended file system for boot partition. Debian default use ext2. Why? Can it be used ext4? I know the difference between ext2 and ext4. But why, currently in Debian, boot partition is ext2 and all others are formated with ext3...
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Sep 19, 2010
3 partitions (in order): Windows 7, CentOS and shared data partition.
I need to increase the size of the Windows 7 partition (c:windowswinsxs seems to be something not easily remedied).
GParted didn't work in moving things around (bad sector) so I wiped out its partition (# 2 out of 3) and I was able to increase the size of the Windows 7 partition (I can reinstall CentOS easily and not much work lost).
Except ... no more grub menu (unsurprising). This incantation does allow me to boot into Windows 7.
Is there any way of rebuilding the grub menu short of reinstalling CentOS (5.5)?
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Aug 10, 2011
I've been running a dual-boot ubuntu 11.04 64-bit and windows 7 64-bit for a while now, and recently got a new computer. I moved the hard drives to the new computer (one had both os's on it, the other was just a storage drive) and windows 7 would not boot, so I reinstalled it. I used a live cd to repair grub using boot repair /Boot-Repair) and everything looked to be going swell But when I tried to boot I got "invalid or damaged bootable partition" instead of a grub menu. so I went back and, copying and pasting the commands the program gave me, I manually removed and reinstalled grub on my ubuntu partition. same error. so, I backed up all my documents onto a third drive, wiped everything out, and started again. I installed win7 on one drive, and then when that was done, I installed ubuntu on the other. lo and behold when I tried to boot I got the same error message, and now I can't even boot from my windows drive. The ubuntu drive is fairly new and according to disk utility has no errors. Is this some problem with grub or what?
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Dec 23, 2014
My Toshiba Satellite C870-198 has Debian 7.7 installed in UEFI mode alongside Windows 8.1. The GRUB menu no longer displays, but the machine boots straight into Windows.
I can boot into Debian or Windows from rEFInd installed on a USB stick. The rEFInd menu has the following entries:
The Debian entry actually launches the GRUB menu which was installed with Debian.
Code: Select allBoot Microsoft EFI boot (Boot Repair backup) from Basic data partition.
Boot supposed Microsoft EFI boot (probably GRUB) from Basic data partition.
Boot EFIubuntugrubx64.efi from Basic data partition.
Boot EFIdebiangrubx64.efi from Basic data partition.
Boot bootootx64.efi from Basic data partition.
Boot vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64 from boot.
In an attempt to fix GRUB I executed the commands in the 'Reinstalling grub-efi on your hard drive' section of: [URL] ....
Code: Select allmount /dev/sda1 /boot/efi
... surprisingly returned:
Code: Select all$LogFile version 2.0 is not supported. (This driver supports version 1.1 only.)
$LogFile version 2.0 is not supported. (This driver supports version 1.1 only.)
Did not find any restart pages in $LogFile and it was not empty.
The file system wasn't safely closed on Windows. Fixing.
Code: Select all[ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo "EFI boot on HDD" || echo "Legacy boot on HDD"
... returned "EFI boot on HDD".
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... Where is Debian?
FULL HISTORY ....
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The laptop came with Windows 8 preinstalled. I switched off Secure Boot and installed Ubuntu for UEFI dual boot. I recall having to use Boot Repair to get the GRUB boot manager working properly for both systems.
Recently I decided to replace Ubuntu with Debian 7.7 and first cloned the entire hard drive to a USB drive (The Clone Drive). This drive successfully boots into Ubuntu in UEFI mode.
Following this I took the opportunity to update Windows to 8.1, which broke GRUB as expected, so that the machine would only boot straight into Windows.
I installed Debian from a live USB stick in the mistaken belief that it would be bootable in UEFI mode. It did boot OK in legacy mode.
I then burned the full Debian 'DVD' image to a USB stick, booted it in UEFI mode and reinstalled Debian. In UEFI mode GRUB allowed me to boot into both Debian and Windows.
At this point I tested The Clone Drive. It was still able to boot into Ubuntu as previously, but after powering down, unplugging The Clone Drive and rebooting, the GRUB menu failed to appear and the machine booted straight into Windows. This is its current state.
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Feb 13, 2015
I'm inexperienced in Debian. I have a dual-boot machine (64-bit, Debian 7.3, Windows 7, legacy boot) and encouter a problem at boot ever since I completed the installation of Debian 7.3 alongside the exising Windows 7. This machine has six hard drives: two are intended for ntfs storage of general data (raided together by RAID1); two more are intended for ext4 storage of general data (also raided together by RAID1); the fifth contains the Windows OS files and the sixth contains the Debian OS files. The problem is that I arrive to the grub_rescue each time at boot, seeing the message:
GRUB loading.
Welcome to GRUB!
error: no such device: e081517b-3399-4067-9294-8f0686f753ca.
Entering rescue mode...
grub_rescue>
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Feb 3, 2016
I've been using Debian for a few years but always on dedicated boxes and/or VMs.
Finally decided to dual boot Debian and Windows on my main Desktop PC.
Installed as I normally would using, however this time using a seperate drive (one for the existing Windows 10 install and the other for Debian), Debian install detects that windows has an EFI partition and sticks an entry in there, which is fair enough, and everything working fine. Then I spent some time configuring all my software and set it all up just the way I like it. I've rebooted Debian a few times to check it's working correctly and it is.
The issue arrives when I reboot and load into Windows 10. It boots fine.
However after a further reboot GRUB no longer loads... and the machine just boots directly into Windows 10.
After doing some further digging into my EFI partition (and reinstalling various times) it would appear that after a reboot Windows 10 deletes the entry GRUB creates in my EFI partition after EVERY reboot.
Done some googling and most people advise turning off 'fast boot' in Windows as it locks certain partitions to facilitate the machine going into hibernation, only to find that it's always been turned off on my machine (I recall due to a driver issue with my graphics card this had to be turned off when I installed Windows 10).
I've found this article on the Ubuntu forums : [URL] .... however I've tried their steps and windows is still doing a hostile takeover of my EFI partion after a reboot!
Any way to stop Windows 10 from interfering with my EFI files after a reboot? (without doing the obvious thing and kill Windows off).
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Apr 3, 2010
I've had to give up trying to install linux. It just won't work on my machine, a Presario 6370us that has been upgraded over the years such that it is not compatible with linux, apparently. (You can read my travails elsewhere on this board; thanks very much to all who tried to help.)
Now, how do I remove the GRUB boot loader from my system? I need the system to boot directly to Windows XP.
I can't start linux in any way, shape, or form, so I need to either edit GRUB inside the GRUB environment itself, or to do so from Windows.
Ideally, I'd like to remove GRUB entirely. Failing that, I'd like to edit the GRUB config file so that only Windows is an option. Failing that, I need to make Windows the default OS.
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Mar 11, 2011
I have recently installed Debian alongside Vista on the same boot menu using the GRUB booting device. Only problem is, I couldn't boot Vista at all any more, so I removed my Debian installation from that drive. But the GRUB boot record persists, I don't have the Recovery disk to restore my old system, so I have to find a way to manually remove the GRUB track and put the old record in its place. I assume there was a copy made of it by the installation program, now my only problem is to find that file and copy the content back in place (at the address at the very beginning of the drive) all that by using Linux code, since that is all I have left. Being new to this game, I have no idea how to begin writing the right command for a job like this
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Mar 11, 2011
A few days ago I installed my first Linux product, which is Debian 6.0, and I installed the GRUB booting device on my main boot record, as it was suggested that it was a harmless step to take. Unfortunately, some quirk in my system made GRUB believe that I had XP when in fact I have Vista, so the options I have now are to boot Debian or to boot XP which is not on my computer. In other words, I have to get rid of GRUB now, but I'm realizing that he's not such an easy customer to kick out. I have moved my Linux installation to another drive, but the old GRUB always stays in place, and my Vista is stuck there frozen for eternity. So after considering all kinds of possibilities, I have come to the conclusion that the easiest way to restore my original boot record would probably be to find its backup copy that I assume the installation program made, and to copy it back into the right address at the beginning of the disk. I don't have the Vista recovery CD, so I really have to do this manually. So now my questions are these: did the installation program make a copy of the boot track, and if so, where did he put it and under what name, and finally, what command can I use from within the Debian terminal, which is now my only tool left, to copy the content of thesaid file into the first 512 bytes of the hard drive? I know that would be a simple matter for any serious geek, I guess I must be a little rusty. Anybody feel up to it?
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Sep 19, 2014
I am running a 14 disk RAID 6 on mdadm behind 2 LSI SAS2008's in JBOD mode (no HW raid) on Debian 7 in BIOS legacy mode.
Grub2 is dropping to a rescue shell complaining that "no such device" exists for "mduuid/b1c40379914e5d18dddb893b4dc5a28f".
Output from mdadm:
Code: Select all # mdadm -D /dev/md0
/dev/md0:
Version : 1.2
Creation Time : Wed Nov 7 17:06:02 2012
Raid Level : raid6
Array Size : 35160446976 (33531.62 GiB 36004.30 GB)
Used Dev Size : 2930037248 (2794.30 GiB 3000.36 GB)
Raid Devices : 14
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Output from blkid:
Code: Select all # blkid
/dev/md0: UUID="2c61b08d-cb1f-4c2c-8ce0-eaea15af32fb" TYPE="xfs"
/dev/md/0: UUID="2c61b08d-cb1f-4c2c-8ce0-eaea15af32fb" TYPE="xfs"
/dev/sdd2: UUID="b1c40379-914e-5d18-dddb-893b4dc5a28f" UUID_SUB="09a00673-c9c1-dc15-b792-f0226016a8a6" LABEL="media:0" TYPE="linux_raid_member"
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The UUID for md0 is `2c61b08d-cb1f-4c2c-8ce0-eaea15af32fb` so I do not understand why grub insists on looking for `b1c40379914e5d18dddb893b4dc5a28f`.
**Here is the output from `bootinfoscript` 0.61. This contains alot of detailed information, and I couldn't find anything wrong with any of it: [URL] .....
During the grub rescue an `ls` shows the member disks and also shows `(md/0)` but if I try an `ls (md/0)` I get an unknown disk error. Trying an `ls` on any member device results in unknown filesystem. The filesystem on the md0 is XFS, and I assume the unknown filesystem is normal if its trying to read an individual disk instead of md0.
I have come close to losing my mind over this, I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling grub numerous times, `update-initramfs -u -k all` numerous times, `update-grub` numerous times, `grub-install` numerous times to all member disks without error, etc.
I even tried manually editing `grub.cfg` to replace all instances of `mduuid/b1c40379914e5d18dddb893b4dc5a28f` with `(md/0)` and then re-install grub, but the exact same error of no such device mduuid/b1c40379914e5d18dddb893b4dc5a28f still happened.
[URL] ....
One thing I noticed is it is only showing half the disks. I am not sure if this matters or is important or not, but one theory would be because there are two LSI cards physically in the machine.
This last screenshot was shown after I specifically altered grub.cfg to replace all instances of `mduuid/b1c40379914e5d18dddb893b4dc5a28f` with `mduuid/2c61b08d-cb1f-4c2c-8ce0-eaea15af32fb` and then re-ran grub-install on all member drives. Where it is getting this old b1c* address I have no clue.
I even tried installing a SATA drive on /dev/sda, outside of the array, and installing grub on it and booting from it. Still, same identical error.
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Mar 24, 2015
I've set up a dual boot system with Debian and Windows 8, both installed on their own drive, with their own boot partition. I installed eveything in UEFI-Mode with fast- and secure boot turned off. Both installations are working, as I can access them by changing the boot priority in the Bios. What I cannot achieve is to let grub boot my windows installation.
This is the output of parted -l:
Code: Select allModel: ATA Samsung SSD 840 (scsi)
Disk /dev/sda: 128GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: gpt
Number Start End Size File system Name Flags
1 1049kB 512MB 511MB fat32 boot
2 512MB 111GB 111GB ext4
3 111GB 128GB 17,0GB linux-swap(v1)
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As you can see, my linux install is on sda, my windows install on sdc (sdb beeing a data disk). This is the entry I made in the 40_custom file in etc/grub.d:
Code: Select allmenuentry "Windows 8.1" {
insmod part_gpt
insmod chain
set root='(hd2,gpt2)'
chainloader /EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
boot
}
I think this should be fine, but if I choose the windows entry wehen grub is booting, it says: error: no such partition. It's my first debian installation, and I am stuck here. Not too much of Linux experience in general.
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Oct 16, 2015
My laptop setup is:
sda1: W7
sda2: FAT16
sda3: /boot
sda4: encrypted LVM with debian (everything besides /boot)
now I've re-installed W7 so grub was overwritten. I've tried the procedure which worked for me previously:booting with the netinst usb in rescue mode, choosing a root partition to mount, using grub-install to reinstall the grub:
Code: Select allmount /dev/sda3 /boot
grub-install /dev/sda
Now I'm on Jessie (stable), and this time this fails, and I am able to mount only sda3.grub-install doesn't exit so I'm assuming it has been replaced by `grub-installer'. also '/boot' doesnt exist so I created it manually.
Code: Select allmount /dev/sda3 /boot
grub-installer /dev/sda
The latter fails with
Code: Select all/dev/sda/proc not a directory
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Jun 7, 2010
I cannot count how many times I have re-installed squeeze, and do all kinds of fixes to grub, but no joy. Every time, there is this ntoskrnl.exe error, and to re-install it. I thought my WIN XP may be corrupted, so I reinstalled it, and updated it with sp3 and all updates. Then I re-installed squeeze (reformatting all partitions). At the end, the installer ask if I want to install grub to mbr. I replied yes. After reboot, only the 2.6.32.3-amd64 and the recovery kernels show up on the grub screen, no winxp.OK, I booted into squeeze kernel and looked at the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file, and there winxp is not included in /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober section. In terminal, I typed
#os-propber and it found winxp in /dev/sda1
then I typed
#update-grub
and now /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober now show winxp.I rebooted, and winxp shows on the grub screen, and I chose winxp.It came back with "ntoskrnl.exe ...error... re-install ntoskrnl..."Here are the details:
fdisk -l
root@SHUM-AMD64:/home/shum# fdisk -l
Disk /dev/sda: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders
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Jun 10, 2011
I have been following this tutorial [URL]. When I get to the end of the installation and try to install GRUB to the /boot partition I have set up it throws a fatal error at me. No explanation other than it can't write to the specified location. I double checked all the partition settings which were the same as the tutorial then skipped the GRUB installation and finished. The only thing I can think of that might be wrong is that the 250MB partition size specified for /boot in the tutorial is too small.
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