Ubuntu Installation :: Install Without Grub2 (use Existing Fine Working Grub Legacy)
Oct 2, 2010
I have a dual boot config with
sda1 /boot
sda2 Win7
sda3 /
sda4 Truecrypt Partition
i have grub1 working and chaonloading truecrypt loader if i choose "win7" in grub1 menu I want to install a new kubuntu (no upgrade) I have read that that there are problems with grub2 and truecrypt actually a bug that grub2 dont chainloads truecrypt boot loader many ppl seem to have problems with grub2 then i read somewhere that ubuntu install is not asking for grub2 to be installed and just installing it. is this right?
i think at least for the alternative install cd its wrong. i installed it on another pc and it asked me! it works for win7 and Ubuntu and i guess its grub2 but there is no truecrypt installed anyway, i wanted to ask is the live cd installer asks me for grub2 and what is the best and easiest way to stay with my grub and just change the menu.lst to the new kernel (i guess there will be one)
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Mar 11, 2011
I installed yesterday the 11.4 openSUSE to my desktop pC (in my 160hdd that previous had WinVista).The bad thing was that I used grub from opensuse to be installed to MBR.openSUSE uses Grub 1.5 and I want grub2.Now I cannot see Ubuntu when grub legacy loads.I will post the results from
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fdisk -l
later today (cause i am not in my pc)
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May 21, 2011
I moved from 8.04.2 to 10.04.2 and tried to upgrade from GRUB Legacy to Grub2. I must have made a mis-step somewhere in the process as on boot it now tells me
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GRUB Loading stage1.5.
GRUB Loading,
Error 15
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Is there a nuke from orbit, no finesse way of just ripping all the existing GRUB mess out and installing GRUB2 from Boot disk? for instance should I be just be able to boot with a LIVE CD mount the primary disk of this machine and enter the below in a terminal without messing up any further?
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sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/PRIMARY_DISK /dev/sda
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May 2, 2010
I've installed grub2 on 10.04, when I restarted I selected that option in the menu that seems to go for testing the chainloader. The system seemed to start ok, so I ran upgrade-from-grub-legacy. Now it's asking me for "GRUB install devices" and listing my hard drive (/dev/sda) and the 5 partitions on it as possible options. Which should I choose? I have Linux and Windoze running on this desktop,
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Jul 17, 2010
I had Arch Linux installed on my machine on sda1 and the Grub legacy that came on their install image on the MBA at sda/. I just did a Ubuntu update and it wanted me to do an update and me thinking grub-install referred to grub legacy, went along with it but now I have Grub2 for my boot menu. There are a few guides on restoring Grub2 I've found but how do I put Grub back on to how I had it? (I thought installing grub legacy from Arch's usb image I have would be simple and fairly automated/easy but it won't let me without doing the previous steps of partitioning drives and selecting packages to install and such so it looks like I'm going to have to do it manually which I haven't done before).
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Mar 11, 2010
GRUB2 (not grub legacy) included in what dist? (expect ubuntu)
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Mar 6, 2011
I have a "master" IDE HD upon which reside several Linux OSs and a couple of Windoze OSs. The boot system is Mandriva using Grub Legacy and the latter's menu.lst file is where I select which OS I wish to use. I use HD physical carriers for my HDs. I used GPartEd to copy over newly installed OSs on another drive to the "master" HD. The commands in the menu.lst file for Linux OSs are representative as follows:
Name of OS
root (hdx,x)
configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst
Task: Enter Grub2 which, I seem to understand, is a work in progress. I presume that some commands in Grub2 are not recognizable by Grub Legacy. I installed Debian 6 on another drive and I wish to incorporate an entry in the menu.lst file described above using the technique described above. Is it possible to use the menu.lst file in Grub Legacy (0.97) in order to boot the Grub2 Debian OS? Or am I chasing windmills?
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Jun 15, 2011
I use openSuSE and want to try Ubuntu.This is the layout of the partitions:
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sda1 /boot (SuSE)
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Apr 5, 2011
I am new to Debian. I have installed Debian on sda1, grub installed in /dev/sda . /dev/sda6 is SalixOs.
My fdisk -l report is this code...
I boot from sda, Debian recognised windows Xp installed on sdb1, but when I choose to boot from it, it simply reboots.
What could be the reason ? I am a newbie, please be patient with me.
I have solve the problem by installing EasyBCD in WinXp and added the Linux entries to it and booting from sdb.(changed in BIOS)
So, is it possible to uninstall GRUB-2 and install GRUB-Legacy ? Would it work on Debian-Squeeze ?
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Jun 2, 2011
I had Fedora 14 (x86) and Windows XP with Grub Legacy (Grub) for dual boot in my desktop.
I installed Debian and Grub 2 replaced Grub in the MBR.
Must I reinstall F14 to recover Grub as bootloader or is there another lighter way to do it?
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Feb 21, 2010
I have been using linux for a few years but I am merely an end-user and many things are still beyond me. I have a machine booting XP and Ubuntu 9.10 with grub2. I would like to try Debian as an installed os, and I have used the netinstall and put Debian on sda6.
During the installation I was asked where to put grub...as I did not want to mess up the mbr which has grub 2 I choose to install Debian's grub to itself on /dev/sda6 ...maybe because of the usb-netinstall menu.lst eneded up with (hd 1,5) I changed to 0,5.
Anyway the problem is...after running update-grub from Ubuntu's grub2, Debian shows up, but will not boot. It seems to go most of the way through loading the kernel then Hangs at, "Begin: waiting for root files..."
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May 25, 2010
Is fedora 13 using GRuB 2 or still uses GRuB legacy?
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Dec 18, 2010
My laptop came with Vista and I added Linux Mint 6 (based on Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex) all is good for a year or so. Added Ubuntu 10.10 to my desktop, loved it, wanted to add it to my laptop...oops.
Installed the main version from a LiveCD, did the the easy multi-OS installation.
GRUB-0.97 is what boots my system though looking at boot script I do have GRUB2 somewhere.
Currently, my boot options are:
1. Mint 6
2. Mint 6 (recovered)
3. Mint 6
4. Mint 6 (recovered)
5. memtest 86+
Other operating systems
6. Vista/Longhorn loader
7. Vista/Longhorn loader
Sda7 is where Ubuntu should be installed. GPARTED says its ext3 file system and bootscript says ext4.
I did find the forum post on purging and installing GRUB2 though I'm not sure if that's what I need to do, or try to reinstall Ubuntu w/o also doing partition resizing at the same time.
The output from my bootscript:
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Boot Info Script 0.55 dated February 15th, 2010
============================= Boot Info Summary: ==============================
=> Grub 0.97 is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda and looks on the same drive in partition #5 for /boot/grub/stage2 and /boot/grub/menu.lst.
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Mar 7, 2011
I've just got another sata HDD and thought lets put in a nice install of Fedora 14 having tried out the live CD over the weekend. Right my system is configured thus
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will Fedora 14's install program make an addition to the existing GRUB configuration or will it do something different Yes I have searched.... and looked at the installation documents....
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Apr 29, 2011
I have successfully dual booted Opensuse and Windows7 successfully, but I have to load it from the CD choosing the boot from hard drive option.
If I do not have the Opensuse CD inserted it goes to Grub Legacy and gives me the option to boot from Arch Linux, or Windows. There is no option for Opensuse and when i hit the Archl Linux option I get errors and it brings me to the /rmfa (I think) command line. Selecting Windows lets me boot to into Windows successfully.
I checked the /boot/grub/menu.list in Opensuse and everything seems to be fine, but these options do not appear on my boot loader.
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Jun 8, 2010
The O'Reilly book, Linux in a Nutshell, Sixth Edition has this excerpted section (on Legacy GRUB):If GRUB is installed in the MBR, you can chainload Windows by setting the root device to the partition that has the Windows boot loader, making it the active partition, and then using the chainloader command to read the Windows boot sector.If GRUB has been installed to (hd0,0)'s MBR, then I am confused what "file" chainloader +1 is pointing to. Obviously, it is not the MBR but that is confusing to me. When one boots a Linux system with GRUB in the MBR, what file does chainloader +1 point to?
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Jun 19, 2010
I dual-boot ubuntu 9.04 and windows 7. I recently reinstalled windows, and it wiped grub-legacy off of my MBR. Reinstalling grub shouldn't be tough, right, especially with clear instructions? Anyway, I can't get anywhere with the official instructions here: [URL]. The first issue is that the current live CD has no program "grub" in terminal. I dug up an old live cd, but I couldn't get anything with the directions:
Find where Grub is. If this gives a few different answers then you will need to find the correct one, perhaps by trial-and-error.
find /boot/grub/stage1
That command didn't find anything, nor did some similar commands found on google.
So I'm really at a loss. What should I do?
-Can I install Grub 2 on my MBR? Will that work with 9.04?
-Can I access my 9.04 install, copy files to Windows, and then just format the partition and clean install 10.04?
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Mar 27, 2010
I'm using the Live CD and have followed steps to recover grub2 after XP install. (damn Windows)!
Upon rebooting I get the grub> prompt with no where to go. Upon installing grub via the Live CD I get this:
Quote:
Update:
When I do this link, upon doing the
Quote:
I get this:
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Dec 30, 2010
The reason I ask is I have not tried on bsd, solaris or a few others.
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Dec 20, 2010
I've been using Linux for over a decade, so no need to worry about the obvious. I'm positive that I have my partitions/install correct. What has me baffled is that Fedora 14, which uses GRUB 0.97 (GRUB legacy) - boots Windows flawlessly every single time on the same hardware, but Ubuntu's (or the upstream Debian's) GRUB legacy do not - even though they are based on the same upstream code from the GNU Savannah servers.
No matter what I've tried I cannot get the Debian or Ubuntu version of GRUB/GRUB-legacy to boot any recent Windows 64 beyond XP (Vista or 7). All that it does is resets the computer when Windows attempts to boot, without an error. GRUB is notoriously difficult to compile, so before I try to compile code from RedHat's archives - any thoughts,experiences, similar issues - whatever?
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Jul 31, 2011
is it ever possible to do dual booting with grub(legacy) ever at all!. it is possible provided i take some pain, here is the link of that post [URL] i was coward and weak i didn't try that out then. but i did try it out. now so if u haven't seen the post .... I've installed Fedora 15 desktop(Gnome) with physical Logical volume called vg_fedora lv_root(ext4) ,lv_swap and lv_home(ext4), with 500MB /boot partition and had about 200GB free hard disk space ... so i wanted to install Scientific Linux 6.1 (because our school uses RHEL 6.1)
so, while running the installer I made (added) a logical volume lv_Scientific with ext4 FS and made its mount point (/) and used the MBR /boot which overwrote the Fedora /boot (completely OK and was as expected) i restarted after installation i got SL log in and as per the directions of the thread i copied the boot stanza from grub.conf of fedora 15 (which i already had copied and pasted into a text file and copied it from there)and pasted it into grub.conf of SL you may ask why did i choose same physical LVM too save swap space ... if i had made another physical LVM i had to make another swap ( i like LVM ... its cool)
completely unexpected happened Fedora now boots but not SL when grub starts i get this error 27 unrecognised commad and when i press <enter> i get grub menu with SL and fedora when i press on Fedora it works well i get my fedora login and i did login .. everything works fine but when i press SL it goes to the previous black screen grub error 27
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Aug 23, 2010
today I have updated OpenSuse 11.2 to 11.3. When the system boots I can see BIOS output and selftest. After GRUB is passed the screen goes black, but boot process is continued to "init 3". SSH and all daemons work fine. I get a screen on the remote inside board, but no output on the attached LCD (Graphic: ATI ES1000 on board). I seams that output is redirected to "Remote Inside Board" only. how to switch output back to screen?
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Dec 18, 2010
I have been successfully triple-booting Windoze and 2 varieties of Linux on my desktop for some years now with very few problems. The latest configuration which I have been using for 6 months or so is Kubuntu 10.04 & Ubuntu 10.04. The last version installed was Kubuntu 10.04 and on installation it's version of grub found Ubuntu 10.04 no problem (other than a minor problem with partition numbering which was manually fixed) and all was well.
I have just upgraded Ubuntu 10.04 to 10.10 (by clean install rather than version upgrade) and the new grub from Ubuntu 10.10 will not start the existing Kubuntu 10.04, I just get "error: file not found".The grub.cfg file from Ubuntu 10.10 is completely different (copy attached) but the partition references & numbers etc. are correct so why will the existing Kubuntu 10.04 not start ? Windoze starts OK.
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# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
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Jul 19, 2010
how to replace grub2 with grub-legacy hassle-free? I mean, is there any danger in doing the following procedure: purging grub2 and installing the legacy version after that? I'm using Squeeze system with ext4.
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Feb 17, 2010
Actually we are use windows n fedora flavors running g2ipmsg (lan messenger) to communicate in cross platform but one of the machine having g2ipmsg is not working fine. It always gets hangs when we open or minimize ipmsg window. i had tried deleting the source file and tried to install new one but it never fix the problem
NOTE: i guess lib file got affected but im not sure.
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Jan 2, 2010
i have puppy 4.2.1 installed on my hdd and have frugal installed a older version inside the existing puppy and would like to add it to the existing GRUB menu
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Jun 11, 2010
I thought that setting up the PATH variable was a must if we wanted to use java or javac commands on linux (preferably in the bashrc file), but I am able to use these commands anywhere without setting up the PATH variable.. Similarly, without specifying . in the CLASSPATH variable (in fact, not specifying the CLASSPATH variable at all), I am able to access class files in the same directory. How is it possible ?
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Jan 14, 2011
I installed openSUSE on a 1tb HDD last night. I already have Windows Vista, and Ubuntu Maverick Meerkat (10.10) on my Laptop's 160gb Hard Drive. My computer was running fine beforehand, but after making a few miscalculations, whilke installing openSUSE i had deleted or overwritten GRUB, now I did what almost anyone that knows just a little about these things would do, and I reinstalled openSUSE, BUT this time i installed it on the 160gb hard drive with 17gb's of unallocated space that was in an "expanded partition" that was connected to Ubuntu and I got GRUB to work, but in the process i had made it so ubuntu was unable to boot or as it calls it an unbootable image, so since GRUB was working at this point I logged into windows, because openSUSE issn't supporting my wireless card, so anyway while i was on windows i downloaded the ubuntu 10.10 iso, and i installed it and it works, now i have eerything working, although it got rid of all my old ubuntu files, but i can live with that, BUT now my problem is i have to have my 1tb external HDD plugged in in order to boot up my computer, without it GRUB wont load, and so nothing else will load.
My question is: Is there a way to have a version of GRUB that will run on its own and not have to be installed alongside an OS (standalone GRUB) or a way that i can run GRUB off of my 160gb internal HDD and still have all 3 Operating system options (Windows Vista and openSUSE on the 160gbHDD, and ubuntu on the 1tb HDD) and have them all boot from that and (question 2 --->) also have it so that i dont require the 1tb Hard drive in to run GRUB?
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Mar 12, 2011
I am big fan of SUSE.. waited like anything for 11.4 release .. but i am in trouble now .. installed 11.4 on Acer 4820TG (switchabe graphics with ATI mobility radeon 5650).. after booting it fails with the attached error while works fine in failsafe mode. Let me know if u need any of the details i am available online for some 5 hours.
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May 17, 2011
It's a little silly to ask this, as I am about to try it anyway, but is it theoretically possible to use a GRUB Legacy USB boot cd to boot a distro beyond 9.04? Or do I need to get to reading about GRUB 2?EDIT: As the USB Boot CD needs to be created from the GRUB files existing inside the Distro that it is intended to boot, this is impossible. Question answered.DIT EDIT: Unless I revert to GRUB legacy inside the Distro itself. Ok. Neat. I guess I just needed a place to write it down to figure it out
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