Ubuntu Installation :: Non-Mission-Critical Clean-Install Partioning?
Jan 26, 2011
I have been happily using Ubuntu for a good while now. It started out sometime around the end of '09 when I purpose-built a machine to continue using WinXP Pro as my primary OS, but using a ROMTEC Trios to mechanically switch to another hard disk, booting Ubuntu Karmic. I liked the fact that the Trios kept my two disks from "seeing each other", because, at the time (and perhaps, still now), I was not ready to keep the peace between a Linux boot and a Windows boot. It was simple: use XP for "day-to-day" for a while, then power down, flip a switch, and boot up Ubuntu to get my toes wet in the Linux world.
I very quickly developed an affinity for the Ubuntu experience, and ditched my XP installation in favor of a blank slate for Linux experimentation. The disk which previously contained XP has since housed various musings of mine, including Ubuntu Studio, Puppy Studio (yes, I am a recording musician), and straight Puppy, along with some recent tinkerings with straight Ubuntu Maverick (which I've had problems with due to what I believe is lack of driver support for nvidia-96).
BTW, my current primary install is that of the original Karmic install, but upgraded to Lucid...running just fine to this date, but wondering a bit at how I'm only showing 11GB of free space on a 160GB disk...I can't quite figure where the space has gone...the math doesn't seem to work in my head, but then again, I'm still a n00b in a lot of ways.
At any rate, I've gotten a lot of mileage out of Ubuntu so far, and I'd like to experiment with "pimping" a clean Lucid installation from the ground up (as I said, I'm having graphics driver issues with Maverick, and I'd kinda like to stay with an LTS release for the time being anyway).
I'm thinking that a customized partition scheme would be a good thing to think about, and the geek in me is inclined to reach beyond the installer defaults and even beyond the common recommendations of adding a separate /home partition. I've read an awful lot about the subject, and there are as many opinions as there are underarms, but I've just gotta ask it anyway:
For a single-user desktop, is there any efficacy in using separate partitions for /boot, /tmp, /usr, /var, /opt, and/or /usr/local? I know most that I can do without a separate /srv partition, but for the others, I just wonder if I can use separate partitions for both security and optimization reasons.
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Aug 6, 2011
anyone of you could share if you have been using ubuntu for large scale website or critical mission project, say for 500.0000 secure transaction per 3 hours with 4 million users accessing server. how does ubuntu perform?
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Feb 14, 2011
I think that Centros is closely connected to Red Hat, right?And, I have heard that if you are going to go for a non-free linux system for your business, Red Hat is rated # 1 followed by OpenSuse.So, if you are going for a free linux system, is it best to go with Centros, or, is Slackware good enough?
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Apr 30, 2010
I got the same error while installing (even though install works fine!) during installation and after it. Its Critical temperature reached, 3564 C, shutting down. Celcium value is not made up, its actually among those lines (four-digit).
I had another problem with installation, but I managed to install using nomodeset setting. My pc is a rock laptop (which is actually supposed to work well with vista instead.. oh wel..).
Any suggestions? I have tried installing with acpi=off, but it doesnt make any difference during installation or after it..
Also another error I got during some of my tests was: "init: Failed to spawn rc-sysinit main proccess: unable to open console: input error
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Mar 18, 2011
setting up my new Laptop.
1st Drive = 90B SSD
2nd Drive = 500GB Sata
8GB = RAM
On my old system, I had one drive that was setup this way: 90GB drive will house all apps and system files, etc. 500GB would be for storage. like a huge /home. I looked at soem of the posts and I see people doing a /virt partition for their VM's. I do use a VM, but do not really understand the /virt partition setup... Definitely need help here. Need some guidance on how to best set this up. My plan is to clone the 90GB drive that will have ALL of my apps... If the 1st drive fails, I can just pop in another drive and not miss a beat...
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Oct 11, 2010
I configured cron to clean my /tmp directory, should I also add other locations to clean and especially /var/tmp.
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Feb 8, 2011
I have a PC with a 120GB HDD which is clean and formatted.I have commenced install of 10.10 from CD. It starts fine and I run through to the who are you window. I have filled in all the details but the "FORWARD" button is grayed out. Also, the progress bar eventually stops altogether. Is the system hanging, or is the install just slow?
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Jun 15, 2011
So I've been trying to install 11.04 x64 on the same drive as Windows 7. The install seemed to go fine until it tried to install grub over the Windows 7 bootloader. My first try at this, I just told it to try again, and it seemed to install fine. It then rebooted and came up with the grub bootloader as expected. However, when it attempted to boot into 11.04, it gives me an error that says "unknown filesystem". It does however boot into Windows 7 fine. While I was writing this up, I went into my BIOS to make sure that my SSD was set to be the primary boot drive and it was not. Changed the SSD to primary boot priority and away it went.
For some reason, with the my other hard drive as the primary boot drive, it wouldn't boot to Ubuntu, but would behave just fine when going into Windows. Very strange behavior. I rebooted the computer again to make sure that the boot priorities fixed the problem and the default background came up halfway, like a corrupted .jpg file, so I forced a shutdown. Now I'm back to what I started with. I've been rebooting to see if I can reproduce the good startup, but to no avail. Also, when grub is loaded, it either gives me a purple or black background. Is this normal? It seems to alternate randomly.
TL;DR
I get one of three errors when trying to boot into 11.04 from a clean install next to a fresh Windows 7 install.
"error: unknown filesystem"
"error: hd1 out of disk"
"error: you need to load the kernel first"
I also see a kernel panic every now and again.
I've got a bootable flash drive with 11.04 on it and that's what I've been trying to install from. I've been looking more into this issue, and from what I've uncovered in the forums is that the new grub bootloader that comes with Natty has some issues. I found the procedure for a downgrade of grub to the Maverick version, but I have not come across a 64-bit procedure. This downgrade has worked from what I've read so far.
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Jan 7, 2010
I made an upgrade from Kubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 and this upgrade generated a series of permission problems.
Considering that I have an individual /home partition, I am planning to make a clean install of Karmic (9.10) on a laptop with a 230GB hard disk and 2GB RAM.
The actual hard disk is mounted the following way:
In total there are some 230GB of Hard Disk available.
The fat 32 partition was not a good idea, because I can't access it from the file manager, so I will dump this partition on my next installation.
Now my question: What partitions would you recommend to mount and what size would you give to each partition?
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Feb 8, 2010
few months back I did a clean install of 9.10 from 9.04 (wanted to clear room so decided against upgrade path) and since then I've been really struggling to boot into it. I've used Ubuntu since 7.04 and never had any issues with it - these issues have only started happening since my upgrade to 9.10. And I was hoping that 9.10 would be the release I could persuade her indoors to not boot into Windows XP!
Anyway my problem is that when I choose Ubuntu 9.10 from the boot list it gets to the point where the Ubuntu symbol is splashed up (with the brown background and the light shining on it) and then the little progress bar underneath freezes and the whole box freezes. It doesn't respond to any keypresses like the "magic" ones and I have mashed CTRL ALT F1 plus others keys repeatedly. Caps lock doesn't respond either so looks like completely frozen, though worth noting that the hard drive still sounds like it's spinning.
I've tried with every boot command under the sun (noapci, nosplash, quiet, noapic etc.) and none of them make any difference bar two - apci=noirq starts the desktop occasionally but with no windows manager, and irqpoll stops the freeze but it never loads the desktop or manager. Both these last two commands work about 1 in 10 boots or so but usually it freezes. I can also sometimes press Escape as soon as the Ubuntu symbol shows on screen and sometimes (about 1 in 5 tries) it gets into the desktop, but only if I hit it before it freezes up. The above does point to an IRQ issue but wondering what has changed since 8.10 and 9.04 which worked perfectly?
I've also booted into recovery mode and updated/fixed packages but the same thing happens with the recent 2.6.31-19 generic as well as -17, -14 etc. As per above I'm dual booting with Windows XP as the default boot option (wife's orders) but don't think this is related.
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Mar 18, 2010
I had 8.4 hardy heron and I've been upgrading from within up to the most recent upgrade to 9.10.Was it better to do a clean install from the cd
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Mar 19, 2010
I'm a relatively new user of Linux, I use Kubuntu 9.10, and I would like to know whether I need to make a clean install for upgrading to 10.4 (I know, stable isn't ready yet, but I'm impatient , and I want to prepare in advance) or I could do it in some way without losing everything I have installed? Or maybe it would be better to only upgrade to the newest version of KDE (I'm using 4.3.2 now)? Which one is easier and/or better? How is it done (Note: using KDE)?
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May 2, 2010
I just did a clean install of Ubuntu 10.04, my PC was running 9.10 and 9.04 before, no problems. No problems on install (received some: end-request: i/o error, dev sr0, ....errors but as far as I know this doesn't mean anything but Cd Rom door open). When I started Ubuntu everything runs ok, (even audio that didn't worked on 9.04 ..finally)
After 1 or to minutes PC just freezed, everytime I restarted same thing. Tried using liveCD, id does crash anyway. I downloaded another ISO using bittorrent, installed, same result. When I open the Computer Monitor I see the System Memory scale up to 100%, then it alternates between processor 1 and 2, it goes to 100% then to about 9 and the other processor goes to 100 one at a time.
1.6 Mhz Intel
HHDD Samsung 160GB
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Jun 23, 2011
I was having some troubles installing windows 7 (install hang with no solution) and decided Ubuntu might be a decent route to install windows, or maybe I'd be satisfied and stay with Ubuntu. Downloaded the official version of 11.04 AMD64, burnt the iso to DVD using windows, and went through the installation process (Having already formatted the drive), only to find that once I removed the installation media, as prompted, I was greeted with a blinking cursor in the top left corner. There were no errors during the installation and I can boot using the liveCD no problem. I am installing this on a 2.8ghz i7 processor, 8GB of DDR3, and installing it on a 120GB SSD.
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Feb 4, 2010
I'm currently using Ubuntu Jaunty, and am considering upgrading to Karmic. Is there any advantage to backing up my data and clean-sheet installing a newer version, or is the upgrade path through the update manager sufficient? Would a clean install carry less baggage coding-wise?
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Feb 24, 2010
A friend of mine asked me to install ubuntu on his system as he finally got enough of all the flaws and problems in his vista. I said no problems ill have ubuntu up and running in no time! Well this is 2 days later and still nothing, he's computer refuses to boot from cd, i been changing the boot sequence allot but no indications of it wanting to boot the cd at all, whatever i try. So i made a bootable ubuntu usb-stick, doesnt work everytime i boot but sometimes... i get the load-up-screen, select install ubuntu, go ahead with the install, everything goes like clockwork. "restart is needed" sure, i restart it. grub says something like cant boot, or nothing to boot on hdd.. and thats that. ive reinstalled it several times (10+), trying ext2,ext3,ext4, partitioning it diffrently, ive tried it all. i even took out the scsi hdd, and tried an old ide-drive i had, gave me the exact same error..
i dont have all the specs but ill write what i know:
GA-ma78gm-s2h gigabyte motherboard
AMD Quad 3ghz
4 gb ddr
500 gb scsi
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Mar 1, 2010
I guess it's time to move up to Ubuntu 9.10 from 9.04 ...unless you would advise me to stay with 9.04. Either way, I would like to do a clean install. I managed to create a separate partition for /home almost a year ago ... now the only thing I want to keep inside /home is one big folder which I already had made a backup copy with several DVDs (larger than 4GB). Besides that large folder, I would like to start everything new. This would be my second time installing and it has been quite awhile. Here are my questions:
1. I know I have backup DVDs in hand. But sometimes DVDs are funky. I would restore my files with DVDs as last resort. So, should I just delete all files and folders (including hidden ones) under /home except a large folder that I would like to keep? If so, can I do that while on a normal gnome session or am I better off doing it while on Live CD?
2. I see a suggestion that when installing Ubuntu, I need to make sure to mount /home but NOT FORMAT IT. Is there a visual tutorial or step-by-step guide showing how to do this?
3. Are there other gotchas like I need to "create" user name the exact same spelling as old user name that is already created under /home on my harddrive?
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Apr 14, 2010
I have a compaq nx7010. It started out with 8.04 or perhaps 8.10. I upgraded it through to 9.04 when that became available. I have not upgraded to 9.10 year, because I recall it took me a fair amount of time to get my system working correctly after the 9.04 upgrade. At a guess, audio went down, wifi broke, and that sort of thing. I am now finding that apps I use are not releasing new versions compatible with 9.04. And I see 10.04 is on its way, and I understand it is best to go from one upgrade to the next rather than jump a release.
Here's my question:
I get the impression it is cleaner and more stable to do a clean install as opposed to an upgrade. I've also seen many people expressing that view. I've always just gone with upgrading because I didn't like the thought of having to set my whole computer up the way I like it, again. Is there a way to do a clean install that will keep my system the way I like it? For instance, to not have to reconfigure every application?
I have my partitions set up like this:
ext3 /home
ext3 /
linuxswap
Just how much config related stuff is stored in the /home folder? Or is this purely user files? What is the consensus? Is it better to upgrade or to do a clean install? My intention is to have a stable system that does not require hours of my time to get sound and wifi working, with the latest release on it (so that I can run the latest apps).
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May 18, 2010
I'm installing 10.4 x64 on a Dell PowerEdge R610 in a RAID 1 configuration and the install goes fine until I have to reboot the server to finish the install. On reboot after about a minute it gives the error.We've tried letting GRUB manually configure itself at the end of the install before we reboot and we've also pointed it to /dev/sba partition which is what should be the boot partition.In the code tag it's ALERT! /dev/mapper/mysql(one)-root.... the L and 1 look the same.I've got 3 of these server to get setup and running as part of our back end and network restructuring and have been stuck at this point on the first one since Friday.
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Oct 12, 2010
The system:
motherboard EP-8K7A+
memory 1 GB
Processor AMD Athlon 1.4 GHz
Video card AMD Radion All In Wonder
Monitor Sony GDM-FW900
This system had been running windows 2000 without problems for years until I replaced it with a faster computer. It then spent about a year running Ubuntu as my fathers computer without problems. I use it now a a test setup.
With 10.04 it was unusable because of this problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...ti/+bug/572104
So I decided to do a clean install with 10.10. To that purpose, I downloaded the ISO for the i386 desktop install on my main system that is running Ubuntu 10.04. When the download was complete, I started the download of the 64 bit install CD. While that was downloading, I started Brasero, selected the i386 iso from a list of about 5 ubuntu install isos in the same directory and burned a disk. I took the disk down and booted from it in the above mentioned computer, it failed claiming to be an i686 disk. Annoyed I went back to my main system and started Brasero again, I selected the i386 iso again, clicked ok and looked at the name it had there. It had actually selected the first name on the list, not the one I had selected. I repeated this several times with the same result. I finally moved the i386 iso out of that directory was able to get it selected and burn the disk. During all of this the i686 was being downloaded into the same directory. I think this was part of the problem because once it was complete, I was able to select the i686 iso from the list without trouble and burn it.
When I finally got an i386 install disk, I booted it on the old computer. Being paranoid I ran the disk check. It went to a dark blue blank screen and sat there.Remembering my problems with my previous install, I rebooted, and went back to the menu looking for "safe video mode". This option did not exist. Instead, I found under F6 "Other Options" a list of undocumented options. Remembering that I was told to add "nomodeset" to the boot when debugging problems previously, I selected that option and was able to start the disk test. I left and came back several hours later and found a screen blanker had engaged. I hit the space bar to clear the screen blanker and started cursing as the results of the test flashed too fast to read as the system re-booted.
I restarted the disk test and happened to be in the room when it completed successfully.
I then selected install Ubuntu. After a bunch of thrashing, this got stuck at the second problem with this system. It chose a resolution that the monitor can handle, but the video card can not. In this mode, I can only see the stuff that is on the far left edge of the screen, and that data is repeated about 6 times over the rest of the screen.
I next tried running Ubuntu directly from the CD. This again chose the wrong video resolution, but under System->Preferences->Display one can change the resolution. The problem is that I could only see the left half of the System menu. After a bunch of trial and error trying to guess where the "Display" menu item was on the screen, I finally found it and got the Monitor Preferences window up. Of course it opens in the middle of the screen and I can't see it. So I alt-click and drag the invisible window to the left where I can see it and select the next smaller 16x10 resolution and click apply. This works, I can finally see the whole screen.
I then click on install, and the entire install appears to work fine... until I reboot. Kernel Panic!!! I get the following error message:
Code:
[ 1.805028] kernel panic -not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[ 1.805085] pid:1,comm:swapper Not tainted 1.6.35-22-generic#33-ubuntu
[ 1.805133] Call Trace:
[ 1.805188] [<c05c6468>] ? Printkt 0x2d/0x35
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I tried running the recovery mode, that said something about not being able to use a particular disk ID and claimed to be about to list the available disk IDs, but instead of listing disk IDs, I got another kernel panic.
As a last resort, I decided to try installing again. I followed the same procedure, but this time after a reboot, I did not get a kernel panic, I got a blank dark blue screen. One would think that since I had to select "nomodeset" every single time I booted the install disk that it might be a good idea to add that option to the install. But no. Now I had to try and remember how to get to the grub menu on boot since it was not being displayed by default. After a few wrong guesses I remembered that I had to hold the shift key down during boot. Adding "nomodeset" got past the blank dark blue screen, and got me to a login screen with the resolution set so high that I could not see the important parts. I blindly hit enter and typed in my password. This worked and I was presented with a desktop, again in a resolution too high to be useful. I had marked on a business card the offset from the top of the screen that the "Display" menu item should be when using the liveCD, but of course there are more menu items in the actual install, so I was in for a few more rounds of trial and error. After getting the resolution down to something that actually works, and setting that to default, I ran the update manager which already had a kernel update. After the update I rebooted. I missed the grub menu so I did not get a chance to add the "nomodeset" option, the booting screens were garbage, but I was surprised to find that the login screen was now working, and I was able to login. So it looks like I have a working system.
While all of this was going on, I was attempting to backup my home directory on my main computer. I have a USB hard drive attached to a DD-WRT router that is shared as a FTP drive. I attempted to copy my home directory to this drive several times, each time, it would copy for a while, then just stop transferring data. I then turned on an old windows 2000 machine with lots of free disk space and tried to copy the home directory to that using smb with the same result. I finally did the backup my moving the USB drive from the dd-wrt machine directly to the computer I was trying to back up. That worked.
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Oct 20, 2010
as per the title - after a hard disk failure got new disk and attempting dual boot of xp and 10.10 - had to burn 10.10 twice to get it to complete the install process, but thats another story - basically on logging in there is now gnome panels - i get my 'low battery' warning etc and the login music but thats it - it does work in 'safe mode' though - what can i do to correct this?ironically had exactly same problem on the upstairs desktop when upgrading to 10.4 but buggered if i can remember how i fixed it - even checked my previous posts on it.
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Dec 7, 2010
I have tried to do a clean install of 10.10 on a system that previously had 9.4 on it. Did not do an upgrade just requested a clean install of UBUNTU. Install proceeds to create user name/password page then just stops. Install line below says ready when you are but I do not get a forward to come up on the screen, it just sits there. I have used different hard drives and a different cdrom drive and 2 different installation disks and it does the same thing.
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Dec 11, 2010
I reformatted my root partition and boot partitions and installed ,averick but zhen I boot I get a grub 15 error. I might have made a mistake on the partitioning screen zhen I selected /dev/dsa6 for the GRUB bootloader - this is my dedicated /boot partition - and don't know how to fix it now
my current fstab is code...
By mounting all partitions one by one I can see now that everything has moved around so that
sda is the bigbastard drive - 500GB - that was sdb previously
sdb is supersize/basckup and was sdc before
the paritions on sda have moved to sdc
I have no idea hot to put everything back
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Dec 30, 2010
I have installed Ubuntu Server three times now. It "NEVER" asks for a "USERNAME". I can't log in to the clean install. Guess what? I never entered a username, so I don't know what it is. I have never logged in. Don't ask me to go to /etc/, I can't log in. It is NOT a video proplem, Ubunto Server is command line OS.
Login incorrect: [system-name] login: Login time out after 60 seconds.
I'm asked to enter a network system name during install. I'm asked for a password, then repeat it during install. but never asks for a "UserName" during install. So, what is it? root? ubuntu? default? Nope, I've tried many many many of them, even admin, nothing works.
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Apr 16, 2011
I want to perform a clean install on my machine - it's had loads of rubbish installed, and is a real mess. Trouble is, while I have downloaded the ISO file, I do not have any blank CDs. Is there a way to mount the ISO and run the installer from within a running system? Probably not, but I thought I'd ask in case I missed something.
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Jun 14, 2011
I recently did a fresh install of ubuntu 11.04 and seemed to have made a mistake with re-partitioning perhaps? I cant boot into windows anymore. I know all files are still there and intacct as I can access them from Ubuntu, but Something is wrong with the Booting of Windows now. I get to a screen which gives me system recovery options. When I perform the startup repair it scans for a few secnds and comes up with an error message "...System volume on disk is corrupt. Repair action: File system repair (chkdsk)...error code 0x1f" I even seems to have access to files on windows from this screen when I try a "Windows Complete system restore" It gives me the option to look on the hard drive or on a disk (I only have a Toshiba windows 7 upgrade disk and it doesnt seem to be helping)
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Jan 7, 2010
The Fedora Core 8 which has been preloaded is certainly not up to scratch as all I want the laptop for is to play MP4 and AVI files. I have looked over all the threads on how to load fedora 11 (recommended version), and have gone to the Fedora site to download the files (32-bit was also recommended - running a i686 Intel Atom).
1. My issue is do I download the files onto CD/DVD, then copy those straight onto a USB and boot from there, or can I find another way to get it directly onto a USB stick without having to waste a CD/DVD?
2. There is also mention of a clean install and partitions across quite a few threads but I can't see how to do these and in what order, and are they necessary?
p.s there is no CD/DVD player on this machine so it can only be loaded from USB.
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Jan 14, 2010
I had ubuntu running just fine on another computer, but had to move things around to make Windows7 run better. So after backing up Home, I switched hard drives, pulled the video card, and adjusted RAM, I tried booting up. The computer found all the changes and did its thing. But then it hung with a blank screen. I figured that it didn't recongnize the video driver for this computer, or something, so I did a fresh install with 9.10 to start over from scratch. The boot up went great, and finished completely. I made a few changes to the desktop, and loaded in my archived firefox bookmarks and evolution files. After rebooting, the first ubuntu logo came up, but then the blank screen, with no drum sounds. I tried a few more times rebooting and hitting esc, but I don't know what I am doing at that menu. I also tried the F1 option, but again, I don't know anything. One other time I was able to boot into ubuntu all the way when I was hitting esc slowing (waiting) and somehow was able to get the login and the desktop just fine. I haven't been able to get that to happen again.
Can someone walk me through the steps to troubleshoot this? I don't know any terminal jargon or commands, and haven't really got a clue, but I really want to learn and figure this out. I don't even know how to go in from the command line to see what my system specs or video specs are to tell you.
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Jan 30, 2010
I've just installed Karmic and get an Out Of Range message on my monitor when starting.I had to use the alternate install in order to get Karmic on there in the first place.I have an Nvidia GeForce 7600 GS, and a BenQ FP767-12 TFT.
Output of lspci;01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G73 [GeForce 7600 GS] (rev a2)Not sure how to get my xorg.conf as I can only get to a shell. Here are (what I think are) the important bits;
Code:
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen 0 "screen0" 0 0
EndSection
Section "Module"
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Feb 6, 2010
Scenario new-clean laptop computer "Hundyx W765TUN" with this test results:
Devices:
- Intel Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU T4300 @ 2.10GHz: well managed with Live-CD
- VGA NVIDIA G98M/GeForce-G105M: well managed with Live-CD
- CD/DVD Matshita UJ890AS: well managed with Live-CD
- Audio Intel ICH9/82801I: well managed with Live-CD
[Code]...
On every installation I've cleaned the MBR and made new partitioning at all for a single system. Tried to partition the disk manually and tried the "use entire disk" option with the automatic wizard. Same results on all cases, when the installation process goes well at all.
I've tried also to leave the computer some hours with the "GRUB Loading." message, but it doesn't move and remains with the same screen/text. Cursor remains blinking all the time under the GRUB message. In all cases Control+Alt+Del works to reboot. With hundreds of installations made, I've never found the same situation. It would be so strange to be a hardware issue.
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