Ubuntu Installation :: Lucid & 2.6.36-1 Kernel: Random Freeze After Boot
Oct 26, 2010
I am using Ubuntu Lucid Lynx 10.04 (64 bits) in my Asus U30JC laptop (Core i3 M350, intel 4500MHD + nvidia 310M with nvidia Optimus, 4GB RAM). I am content with Lucid and I don't want to upgrade to 10.10 for now. However I read that the new 2.6.36 kernel has some good improvements, such as improving system interactivity while intensive I/O (such as copying large files), and improved energy management for i3/i5 processors (which I hope translates into more battery time, which is a problem of Ubuntu vs Win7 in my laptop).
I discovered I had 2 options: compile the kernel myself, or use the Ubuntu Kernel PPA (maintained by the Ubuntu Kernel Team). I decided to use the PPA, so I added it to my software sources and installed the generic"linux-lts-backport-natty" kernel (2.6.36-1).
Package installation went fine, and after reboot, I could log in to the desktop no problem. Everything seemed fine, but after a few minutes, the system freezes completely: mouse did not move, none of the indicators moved, even Ctrl + Alt + F1 did not work.Where is the log file where there might be a message related to the freeze? Do you think that the kernel developers would try to fix a bug that probably only affects people running the 2.6.36-1 kernel on a distribution that was not built around it?
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May 10, 2010
It seems that my Ubuntu 10.04 (clean install) to randomly freeze / hang (mouse/keyboard unresponsive, only a hard reboot is available as option) but with no garbled screens/windows/etc. There's no pattern why or any application that could be responsible. It could happen ten minutes after it is started or after 2 days but at some point and suddenly the system will become totally unresponsive, freeze and hang up. I used the same PC with Karmic Koala and releases before that (sometimes on for days) with no such problem so it shouldn't be a hardware problem.
I thoroughly check system logs after the hard reboot (System > Administation > Log File Viewer) and there's no entry around the time of each freeze / hang to pinpoint me to something.
The only thing that is certain is that the following errors / warnings always appear in .xsession-errors file:
Here is also some info about my system:
M/B: ASUS P4R800-V DELUXE
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
RAM: 1GB
Graphics: ATI Radeon 9100 IGP
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Feb 23, 2011
Why is it that about 98 to 99% of the time my computer will boot to Ubuntu/Lucid just fine but on rare / random occasions after seeing the initial BIOS boot screen and initial cursor just after initial BIOS boot screens, the video will just go BLANK, i.e. does not boot to Ubuntu desktop ?
If I then do ALT,CRL,DEL sequence the SPLASH screen is displayed on the monitor and the system then reboots and then goes thru the complete boot process all the way to the desktop just fine.Why this occasional failure to boot completely to the desktop ?
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Oct 14, 2010
I am a Ubuntu user since a few years (Breezy Badger was my first) now but I still don't know much about computers or commands so please bear with me. I used 10.04 on my HP pavillion PC of two years old without any problems. Now I upgraded to 10.10 with update manager. And it boots fine, but whatever I do, after aprox. 10 minutes everything just freezes. And I don't remember the magic phrase for soft reset, so I hit the power button.
I have searched the forums and could not find a satisfactory answer to my problem. I found this thread [URL] but have no idea how to do what's requested. Could anyone please tell me what to do?I know how to open a terminal, and type a command or two but that's basically it.
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Jul 21, 2010
after upgrading to lucid lynx ubuntu doesn't boot with the new kernels 2.6.32-22-generic and 2.6.32-23-generic (also in recovery mode). But it's does boot with the previous 2.6.31-21-generic kernel. At the time i was hoping to wait it out, but a new kernel has come and the problem persisted. I've been trying to find a solution for this but somehow, amid lots of failed boot blank black screen threads, i didn't relate to any solution. The boot seems to go well until a pixelated logo appears (before the login screen), then goes to a blank black screen and there it stays stuck with no remedy. Looking into dmesg logs - albeit some differences between 2.6.31-21 and the newer 2.6.32-23 - the failed boot seems proper in both logs. In Xorg logs the differences are bigger but i cannot pinpoint a source for this problem.
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May 18, 2010
Just upgraded from Karmic to Lucid using auto upgrade on Thinkpad T42. Since doing this, I am experiencing random logging off. Suddenly, I get dumped to the log in screen and need to log back in. A search in the forum suggests this was a problem that some people had with Karmic, but is now fixed (I never experienced it with Karmic)
It seems to be associated with Firefox, with it not happened since switching to Chrome, but switching back to Firefox has just resulted in me being logged off. This could be a coincidence of course. This is rather serious problem as I use the Thinkpad to give presentations
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May 23, 2010
After running 9.10 (Kubuntu) uneventfully on my Thinkpad x100e (chip: AMD Neo MV-40, graphics: Radeon HD 3200), I upgraded to Lucid and am getting a system freeze/hang.
I'm running the Xorg radeon driver.
At first the freeze was on the KDM login screen, right after the audio drumbeats. I upgraded the BIOS to the latest from Lenovo, and now I can log in, but it freezes right away while trying to build the desktop. I've tried the failsafe graphical boot, and all I get is a black screen.
I've seen some threads related to the i845/i855 chips, but that shouldn't be an issue here (although I tried some of the workarounds which didn't help). I'd like to avoid the fglrx driver if I can, but I'll give that a shot if I can't get past this.
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Jul 31, 2011
I locked the screen, came back, typed the password, screen remained black, though cursor was visible and moving. Nothing I could do to rejuvenate the screen. Had to switch to tty6, sudo shutdown -r now. Then, on reboot obtained kernel selection, it proceeded to displaying kernel messages, but froze on sdb, after 3 secs. I figured it was the usb, so turned off, removed usb cables to external hard drives, but again it froze saying something about firewire mouse, the mouse is also usb. I tried several times, but no matter what kernel I chose, I couldn't get it to boot. So I loaded puppy live cd, but now it can't access some parts of the disk. I was running utorrent and the folder with partially downloaded files can be accessed but there's nothing there (there was), and some folders can't be accessed at all.
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Aug 2, 2010
I have an IBM server with a: "SCSI storage controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic 53c1030 PCI-X Fusion-MPT Dual Ultra320 SCSI (rev 07)", meaning kernel module CONFIG_FUSION. This is the real hardware, not emulated by vmware. With recent kernels (2.6.30-35) the boot results in one of three situations:
1.) Most common: kernel panic, way too long stack dump to see anything useful but did have a terminal briefly to debug this and its just not being able to communicate with the scsi subsystems, google for errors found nothing of use.
2.) Sometimes: A hang waiting for the scsi disks after the controller fails to initialize properly, does not pass in a couple of hours.
3.) Very rarely: A long wait for the scsi controller to initialize but a succesful boot afterwards. ACPI subsystems are taking all CPU power. This is the state the machine is at now, working somewhat.
I can boot the machine with a Gentoo live install disk (kernel 2.6.29 I think) and under that version the controller initializes instantly and there are no problems whatsover using the disks so the hardware seems to be solid!
There were some MPT changes in 2.6.25rc5 so thats the latest kernel I've tried. The errors during boot change to a bit more verbose but thats about it. Unfortunately I don't have a serial terminal with me anymore so cannot capture these errors but it was something about an "unexpected doorbell" with 2.6.24 and nothing memorable with .25. Long story short tho, googling the errors provides no solutions and the little I find points to the controller being too slow to initialize somehow.
I'm running out of ideas here and the server is burning fans like theres no tomorrow (ACPI taking everything it can) so is my only option to downgrade to 2.6.29 (and downgrade udev, lvm2, so on and on and on)? I can't believe I'm the only one for whom this has been broken for several minor versions.
Kernels tried:
- 2.6.29-gentoo (live disk) - works, blazing fast initialization
- 2.6.32-gentoo-r7 - random boot failures and successes
- 2.6.34-gentoo-r1 - same
- 2.6.35-rc5 vanilla - same, better errors, zero useful google results.
I'm not very keen on longshot attempts since it can take a couple of hours of panic-loops to get the machine booted up again and the server functions cannot be transferred to another machine. Also, I'm a bit hesitant to mention this, but the boot has only ever succeeded when a serial cable with something at the other end is connected. At first it was the testing serial terminal and now its just a connection to a UPS.
Attached: bootlog of succesfull-ish boot with 2.6.34 (had to cut some out to make the sizelimit):
Code:
Linux version 2.6.34-gentoo-r1 (root@livecd) (gcc version 4.3.4 (Gentoo Hardened 4.3.4 p1.1, pie-10.1.5) ) #1 SMP Sun Jul 18 18:54:48 EEST 2010
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 0000000000099c00 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 0000000000099c00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)
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Jan 11, 2010
I had a total freeze during a kernel upgrade, and reinstalled my system(kubuntu karmic) but still cannot boot.
when I try, I get this sequence of text on my screen:
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GRUB loading stage 1.5
GRUB loading, please wait...
Error 15
I know that error 15 means "file not found", but not how to figure out which file it is or how to point correctly to it.
I have tried to install the system on partitions on two separate disks, with the same end result. on the original disk I had some trouble getting through grub install, but on the other disk there were no indications of trouble during setup. can this a problem with the MBR on the first drive?
I have one drive connected by PATA, the rest by SATA, will SATA1 be (hd0)[grub] and /dev/sda [linux], is it the PATA drive, or some other means to determine this without examining the make and model of each drive?
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Jun 14, 2010
After screwing up my current UNR install, I have decided to get a fresh installation of regular Lucid without all the BS that comes with the netbook remix, BUT when I boot from usb and start the process I can't get past the keyboard selection phase... it just hangs there forever. I tried making a usb with the alternate text based version too but it halts at the same spot, namely detecting hdd's. Now, I've installed the UNR previously from usb without any problems so something is wrong here, I just haven't got any wiser from reading whats online either. I checked the forums etc but didn't find any answers... I'm on an Asus Eee 1005PE by the way.
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May 27, 2010
This has been confusing me for a while. It usually takes about 4 or 5 times of hitting the power button for it to start up to the login screen. All it does is go to the Ubuntu splash screen and that's it. The colored dots don't change or anything. It just sits there. I ran the memory test to be sure it wasn't RAM and it ran fine.
System specs:
OS: 10.04
CPU: E8400
GPU: 9600GT
Hard drive: 250 GB Seagate
RAM: 2 GB
Mobo: 780i SLI FTW
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Jun 15, 2010
I've been getting a random hard freeze, in both windows and linux, so I'm pretty sure it's not a software thing. I've run memory diagnostics in windows and it came out fine, I'm not sure what other diagnostics I can run. what tools can I run in linux that might help me further diagnose the problem? I haven't installed any new hardware, and I blasted the inside with some compressed air to err on the side of caution, but I still have problems. i'm running the latest ubuntu ver btw
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Jul 5, 2011
I had installed Ubuntu Studio Natty from scratch onto a fresh partition, keeping Ubuntu Studio Maverick on another partition until I was sure Natty was working right. But whenever I tried using Natty the system would totally freeze, or so it seemed. Everything would freeze except the mouse pointer. Even the clock, which I have displaying seconds, would stop counting. I searched all over and there seemed to be little agreement about the cause of this, but a lot of people seemed to be experiencing it. It seemed to me however that there was a trend toward blaming new 3D features, and some tips suggested starting with 3D display features disabled; I forget now how to do that, but I do know that it didn't work for me.
After sort of giving up for a couple of months and going back to Maverick I had the idea to try installing (actually "activating") the Nvidia proprietary driver---and the problem seems to have been totally fixed. That's literally all I did, and for at least a few weeks, maybe a month or more, no freezes.
I should add that after a while the symptoms revealed that it wasn't necessarily that the computer was freezing, it was that it would rev up to maximum CPU usage and stay there, with a restart the only solution, until it would start again, seemingly at random, after several minutes to a half hour usually.
I have a Sony Vaio VPCF116FX laptop.
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Jul 20, 2011
My problem is that my server randomly hangs. If I remember right it started after an kernel update (can't really remember if it was a kernel update specific, but I did install new updates before this problem occurred), and then I noticed my server was down one day, after that the problems/random freezes continued. And there are no pattern/interval between the freeze ups.
I think that all this started for about 3 weeks ago, so I've never had this problem with Ubuntu 10.04 before.
At first, I thought the source to my problem was an old IDE which I accidentally left in when installing Ubuntu at the first time, so GRUB was sitting on that one. So I backed up almost all of my data, reinstalled Ubuntu 10.04 (downloaded from the website) but this time without the old IDE drive. Everything seemed to work, had no crashes or freezes. I do have to mention that the same thing happend to the live CD before I removed the old IDE.
But now the fresh install of Ubuntu seems to hang too. And the worst part of this is that I can't really do anything about it to test or look up what may cause the problem, as I have to access it remotely because I'm on vacation right now (I'll have to get my friend over there and restart it).
When the computer hangs it comes inaccessible from the network, can't even see that it is up in my router. But I do know it is running, else it would have been shut off and then started up again and work.
Before I re-installed it, this problem could be reproduced by surfing the web and watching flash videos in either chromium or Firefox.
And I do know it sounds silly to run a server with the desktop edition installed, but if I don't have any other computer accessible, I use my server instead.
My server specs:
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad 2.5 GHz
GFX: XFX Nvidia Geforce 8600GT
Mobo: EVGA 750i FTW
RAM: Corsair Dominator 2GB
HDD: Western Digital 500 GB
I also have no special effects nor do I use any proprietary drivers (I did before I re-installed).
Any ideas of what it might be? Is it a bug which came with the updates, like a bug in the kernel?
I've noticed that there actually are alot of threads like mine around here, but none have provided a working solution.
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Dec 18, 2009
I just installed Fedora 12. Now i've seen a few other threads but they seem to have all the conclusion that its the Nvidia drivers at fault. Well i have an ATI Mobility Radeon 3400 series. I can login, and navigate for a little bit, then it just randomly freezes. I've booted to both gnome and KDE, kde freezes almost immediately w/o letting me navigate much. Gnome takes a bit and then freezes on me. I managed to login once and go like 6 minutes then i thought it was worked out, rebooted and boom, froze up again. I can still move my mouse but can't click or use keyboard. Ctrl+Alt+Backspace doesn't work either .....
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Oct 1, 2010
As this thread [URL]... reached over thousand posts, it's obvious that these freezes (which actually boils down to keyboard and mouse not being listened to by X server, so "not working") hit large numbers of Ubuntu users. As that thread is already very large and hard to read I'd like to advance a hypothesis here : This problem occurs only on multi-core CPUs.
I've installed 10.04 on two machines: and old box with a Duron and new one with quad core. The old box runs just fine with 10.04. The new one - you know Has anyone exeprienced this problem on a single core machine?
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Nov 29, 2010
I seem to be having a problem on the new Kernel (2.6.35-23) with the system randomly freezing.
I have installed a number of things in recent days leading up to this problem, but when i boot with the old kernel i don't seem to have any issues. From this i am guessing its the new kernel.
The freezing seems (although i am not sure) to be worse when Rhythmbox is running. When it happens everything freezes, the playing song skips, replaying the same one second of music over and over. All the hotkeys stop and the mouse cursor stops responding.
I have seen people talking about system logs to look at system crashes but i don't know how to show those. I also doubt my ability to interpret them.
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Nov 30, 2010
Keep having random freezes on my laptop.. Its a Dell Stdui 1558 running Ubuntu 10.10 however i dont get the freezes on 10.04.01
So i might have to revert back to 10.40.1 #
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Mar 2, 2010
I'm running Fedora 12 with GNOME on an old Toshiba Satellite A15. From time to time I get a system freeze, where everything stops working besides the touch pad (I can move the cursor, just can't click on anything). When I boot up, I see an error message that it skips past before I can read anything, although I have spotted the snippets 'pci' 'error' and what appears to be the 0x at the start of a memory address. When I try and shut down the system (going either by command line or the System->Shut Down part), I get to the part where it says "Unmounting filesystems..." and then it stops right there. When I boot it back up, I get an error that says "A crash in package kernel has been detected."
The same happens when I boot up after the hard freeze. It seems more frequent when I have a heavy load on system memory, but for the most part it seems random. I've seen it crash after 5 minutes with only Pidgin or gedit open, I've seen it run for weeks with over 100 Firefox tabs, Pidgin, 3 documents, and GIMP running, but it seems more likely in the second scenario. It also seems to have a chance of freezing again within 5 minutes of rebooting (even if I don't touch anything after login). I ran Fedora 8 and Fedora 10 on this computer just fine, with most of the same system settings (copied my /home folder for each upgrade). I have a dual-boot system (XP/Fedora), with a third partition for data and a 200MB partition for the boot loader. The partition with Fedora is encrypted, and the crashing while trying to unmount the filesystem implies to me that might be the problem, but whatever it is, it wasn't in Fedora 8 or 10 (at least as far as I could tell).
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Apr 26, 2010
I was opening up a ODG doc and then my pc froze up. I powered it down, but now its telling me upon trying to open up the document again that someone else is accessing it so its locked.
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Jun 14, 2010
I am running Ubuntu 10.04, randomly while working in gnome with no particular application I get a freeze periodically. Neither the mouse or the keyboard will respond. I am running it on a lenovo Z61m laptop. I have had previous experience with Posix systems but I am a recent migrant from XP as my primary operating system. I never had such an issue with this computer which leads me to believe that it is not a hardware issue.
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Jul 22, 2010
Everytime I use keyboard shortcut such as Alt-Tab to switch windows, my whole ubuntu freezes. I can still move mouse pointer but I cannot click anything.
Anyone has an idea?
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Jun 3, 2011
Running updated 11.04 on a older Dell Precision 360n. Been having random system freezes for the past month that requires a hard restart (REISUB doesn't work) each time. Sometimes the caps lock and scroll lock LEDs blink, other times not. sometimes it happens during boot, other times during normal usage. There hasn't been anything in any of the logs (except once, which I'll post below). This happened running 10.04 and 10.10 as well. I've run PC-check a few times and all hardware diagnostics have passed. Until today, i've been able to boot and run Trinity Rescue Kit 3.4 to mount the disk and examine the logs (and do backups), but now TRK won't boot and spews kernel panics when loading.
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May 1, 2010
I downloaded and burnt the Kubuntu 10.04 release to a CD. I tried to install it. First time, couldn't find the disks and eventually it froze. Ok, second try, when it's contacting the "time server" (or whatever) another freeze, but this time I notice everything is running fine and then get a nice little image with the current time (increasing seconds and all). Third attemp, clicked the "update this installer" and it went fine. "Yay!" I thought. Well, a few minutes in my beautiful 10.04 system and again, another freeze. Hit the power button and to my surprise a "Shutdown" dialog shows up with a countdown. After 30 seconds it logs out and mouse is working again. I log back in and come here to write this long post, and as I was writing the title "Random mouse/ke..." guess what? Yeah, it froze again. And the little bar that goes after the writing continued happily blinking. Hit the power button but this time mouse and keyboard were still frozen in the login screen.
Short version: mouse and keyboard randomly freeze while the rest of the system apparently work fine.
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Oct 17, 2009
Ubuntu 9.04, all updates
Latest firmware, etc
abit SG-95 motherboard
2 GB Ultra DDR2
Intel Celeron 360 cpu
PNY GeForce 9500 GT video
Started 2 weeks ago, random and total freeze of system (video, keyboard, mouse).
Nothing useful in th log, other than it occurs at the same time syslogd restart show up in the log.
I don't even know where to begin, or how to troubleshoot the issue if nothing shows up in the log... could use some help, please.
Problem occurs with or without the nvidia drivers installed. Ubuntu or windows, same thing..connected or not connected to the internet
I've ran every memory test I can find, with no issues reported. HD seems OK. No other symptom that I can find, other than it croaking, usually when I'm in the middle of a broadcast or recording.
Is the only machine I have for now, I need to figure out what's wrong and replace it as quickly as possible, so I can get back to work.
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Feb 26, 2010
i am having quite a problem after upgrading my karmic to an 2.6.33 kernel and trying to do an nfs transfer.
the nfs transfer bugs out in (and then freezes the box totally up, so that only pressing the reboot button on the pc itself helps anymore):
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Feb 26 22:31:24 localhost kernel: [ 3964.123290] INFO: task rdesktop:10331 blocked for more than 120 seconds.
Feb 26 22:31:24 localhost kernel: [ 3964.123292] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message.
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Jun 3, 2010
I'll start at the beginning. The problem i am about to describe occured in ubuntu 9.10 for the first time (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/480850) and is ironically partly responsible for my switching to debian. which i don't regret, but it seems i can't run from the bug any longer because now it's in squeeze, so i want to fix it or make a proper bug report:
Steps to Reproduce:
1: Suspend Laptop to RAM
2: Resume from Suspend
3: Wait and see, preferably monitoring top:
At some random time, ranging from immediately (black screen after resume) to several hours later, the system will become unresponsive. Switching to tty1 or Alt+Print+K does not work, Alt+Print+REISUB does work. Each freeze is anticipated by a random process (this time it was mandb, was installing something) hogging 100% of CPU, then the System becomes gradually unresponsive within a minute or so (panel, metacity, finally mouse cursor freezes too).
Alternatively, in case of a black screen immediately upon resume, Alt+Print+K works (EDIT: or not), and the system remains usable.
Additionally, i don't know if this is related, i noticed one process using 9999% of CPU for a second according to top, just thought i'd mention it.
This bug constitutes a regression, suspend does work flawlessly on this Laptop in Lenny.
The above is how it presented itself at the beginning on a fresh squeeze install, however, after two days of trying, i additionally get kerneloops messages i did not get before (again, after at least one suspend to ram) and after that the system becomes generally unstable (random applications won't properly open or terminate, including nautilus, evolution, iceweasel). Can this be due to secondary damage from the freezes and alt+print+reisubbing repeatedly?
The good news is, apart from this probably already damaged squeeze install, i have another one on one of my playground partitons, where i avoided suspend so far, so i can still try things out there. (it's kde, but i don't think it's related to the desktop environment).
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Jan 11, 2011
Basically when I add more than a single 2gb RAM module, my computer starts randomly crashing every half hour or so, the screen freezes with no response. I have tested the RAM with memtest 86+, it only happens when there is more than one module. The system is openSuse 11.2 64bit and it had a single 2gb RAM module when I first installed it, and removing all but this seemingly fixes the issue. The following is the error message I get when the system crashes, It seems to continue messaging after the initial visual lockup.
Jan 11 16:34:50 eddie kernel: [ 3129.580690] SysRq : HELP : loglevel(0-9) reBoot Crash terminate-all-tasks(E) memory-full-oom-kill(F) fGldbg kill-all-tasks(I) thaw-filesystems(J) saK show-backtrace-all-active-cpus(L) show-memory-usage(M) nice-all-RT-tasks(N) powerOff show-registers(P) show-all-timers(Q) unRaw Sync show-task-states(T) Unmount show-blocked-tasks(W) dump-ftrace-buffer(Z)
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I don't know what the problem is, but from searching the web it could be a number of problems, the memory is not being allocated correctly or it maybe there's some conflict no between my ATI HD card/driver (latest driver from ATI repo).
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Apr 13, 2011
I'm trying to install Debian 6.0.1a (64bit) onto a machine that had Debian 5.08. It freezes up almost immediately after loading the kernel. The last line, about 2.6 seconds in, is where it found a SATA drive. (There are two SATA drives). This is a Tyan S2912 with Opteron 2347HE. It seems to be kernel release related. I tried the 5.08 disc again, and it works OK.
With other distros, such as Opensuse and Ubuntu, I have the same problem. The newer releases freeze up almost instantly after loading the kernel. Am I stuck with IDE drives or older kernels? I wanted to try something newer as the fonts in the 5.0.8 release were barely legible. It gave me nauseating headaches within a couple of hours of looking at it. My wife couldn't stand to see it when she came by. I've tried every bios setting change I could think of without a solution.
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