Ubuntu :: 11.04 Classic Window Decorator
May 1, 2011
Gave unity a try, did not like it, switched to classic. I had pretty much figured out eye candy in previous versions, but I can't change the window border in 11.04. If I enable emerald as the window decorator under compiz settings, I get a blank window border, regardless of which emerald theme I select. If I click the default under compiz settings and use compiz-decorator, I also get a blank window border. If I use gtk-window-decorator, I then have a proper window border, but I have no way to change it. With it, I can use appearance preferences and change themes, colors, icons, etc., but selecting different window borders under customize has no effect at all. I don't like the window border I'm stuck with, anybody know how to switch these in 11.04?
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May 10, 2010
For testing purposes, I'd like to disable windows decoration on my desktop. However, I don't know how to do such a thing, I can't find a parameter for gtk-window-decorator nor emerald that can disable them. I have also tried disabling window decoration in compiz settings but after disabling the check mark for windows decoration it is automatically marked again after a couple of seconds
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Jul 30, 2010
In the Emerald Themer, I'm able to apply a theme, but only the title bar changes. The rest of the window remains the theme the themes of 'right click > Change Desktop Background > Theme Tab'. (Yes, I have tried the emerald --replace thing)In short, the theme of the window is kinda half-and-half between Emerald and GTK. Screens attached.(Screen shot 1 is illustrating a emerald theme, with matching gtk theme, screen 2 is showing the same emerald theme, but this time with a different GTK theme. Also, ignore the odd look of the images, it's a twinview setup with screen one zoomed in)
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Jul 11, 2011
I have an Xubuntu 11.04 installation with compiz and GTK-window-decorator, how do I change the window buttons because there is no gconf in Xubuntu?
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Jan 26, 2011
Is it possible? I have a tool I want to keep open and without decorator (the window decorations etc) to start everytime I log in, and available in all workspaces. Is this doable?
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Jul 13, 2011
I really a newbie to xfce. I was using gnome 2 orignally then since I'm using Arch Linux (64-bit), it was updated to Gnome 3. After long weeks of daily use, I didn't like gnome 3. Now, I decided to use xfce. I did a fresh install (after formatting my hdd) of Arch, I put installed XFCE + SLIM login manager. Almost all works fine until I decided to install Compiz. After installing Compiz, for some reason gtk-window-decorator --replace (the one that you put under CCSM > Window Decoration > Command) does not work. Only "emerald --replace" and "kde4-window-decorator --replace" works. Unfortunately, I don't like emerald. When I run gtk-window-decorator --replace in the terminal it gives me this error:
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gtk-window-decorator: error while loading shared libraries: libmetacity-private.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I made sure I installed the complete compiz+gtk package from pacman. BTW, I never had a problem with gnome 2 + compiz + gtk-window-decorator. I don't know if I have to do something extra in xfce to make gtk-window-decorator work.
EDIT: FYI, I use fusion-icon as an autostart application for me to automatically start compiz during startup.
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Sep 24, 2010
I was using the open source ATI drivers and KDE's compositing worked, so I hadn't installed compiz. I wanted to try fglrx because I thought a) I might be able to get temperature readings, and b) it might stop Kubuntu from making my computer incredibly hot (in Windows 7 it stays cool). So I installed fglrx by enabling it in the restricted hardware drivers thing, and things worked, but compositing was disabled and no matter what I did I couldn't enable it. So I installed compiz. When I run compiz, I get the following output:
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toby@tensile:~$ compiz --replace
Starting kde4-window-decorator
[code]...
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May 7, 2011
When I switch tabs in Firefox or Gedit the window title doesn't update, though the task bar title does, and if I minimize and then restore it updates to the correct value until I switch tabs again. Are there any workarounds? What sort of debug info do I need to post?
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May 22, 2011
Why does on some computers my terminal window have a background I can see through and on others its a solid color? I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed on 4 machines as base OS and I have many virtual machines of it also. I havent changed the terminal preferences on any of them, however on some computers the terminal background which is purple is not solid in that you can see what is in the background behind it. On others the background is truly solid purple; you can not see behind/through it.
Is there any way to change the terminal window for these machines that are displaying solid to the 'see-thru' way? Ive been using some ebooks and things and really like opening up vi/vim in the purple see-thru window that allows me to write and see the text in the background...however on some machines I can not do this because the terminal display is truly solid. ? All my computers have the same profile settings for terminal..
color = use system theme
background = Solid color
Note - I am making a distinction here between what I call see-thru and the 'transparent' setting in the terminal preferences as this seems to use the desktop background and is different from what I am talking here.
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Mar 9, 2011
I have always used ubuntu (gnome) desktop � but recently I decided to try Kubuntu (kde).
It has been many years since I last used KDE. And I decided to install it on my laptop; thus running KDE and Gnome side-by-side on a 10.10 x64 installation.
I have noticed that KDE looks really slick and that it still is massively more complicate compared to Gnome, this complication does allow for more customisation.
But I am facing some problems particularly with stability.
Every time I boot into KDE, it crashes complaining about window decorations. I am using a T410 lenovo.
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May 25, 2011
I am running 11.04, and was running under Unity, and then moved back to Gnome 2.23.1. I am having a segfault occur any time I click on the window menu icon for any window. Once this occurs all the menu bars disappearing and I cannot move any of the windows, minimise/maximise, and while I am able to close most windows via their menu's it is really annoying! To get it back up I have to call gtk-window-decorator from the command line. This is how I found out it was a segfault.
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** (gtk-window-decorator:18789): CRITICAL **: Could not find frame info xd0u0012x8fu0008u0001 in frame type table
Segmentation fault
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May 8, 2011
I have been running Ubuntu 10.04 & 10.10 nicely over the last year and recently I found the avant-window-navigator, which I now use instead of gnome-panel.It's easy to make the changes in previous versions, I just had to go into gconf-editor, navigate to /desktop/gnome/required_components and change the "panel" key from gnome-panel to avant-window-navigator.
Now I am one of the many who despises Unity and put off the upgrade to 11.04, until I read that you can select Ubuntu Classic when logging in and not use Unity.No problem,I thought.I will just use Ubuntu Classic, make the same changes as before and not use Unity.But, this doesn't seem to work. The same keys are not present in gconf-editor and even if I add them they have no effect.
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May 20, 2011
I followed this guide. [URL]
Log out and log in as Ubuntu classic, but still i get an Unity-desktop. I have also installed Unity-2d from synaptic. How do I know if the system has unity-2d or unity-3d? I have only an eeepc 900, so 3d get really slow
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Apr 30, 2010
how can I get rid of all this horrible maximus/netbook launcher stuff and just get a classic desktop in UNR 10.04?
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May 1, 2011
So if we don't like Unity or the way it crashes with alarming regularity, the fact that it requires multiple mouse clicks to do things we used to do with a couple and the fact that the launcher is not configurable in any meaningful way, we can always go back to Ubuntu Classic, right? Wrong!
Trying to enable desktop effects in Classic under amd64 and NVidia proves something of a nightmare.
1. There is no 'Desktop Effects' tab anymore. We are told that this is no longer necessary as Compiz is running by default.
2. Jockey reports that the NVidia driver is installed and that the driver is activated but 'not currently in use'. This is a bug and has been reported. However, this could tempt people to uninstall and re-install the driver (I am one of these) with disastrous results.
3. Trying to enable things like the Cube and Cube rotation break Compiz and remove *all* the settings in CCSM. Window menus and borders disappear and have to be restored by resetting the Window Manager to Metacity.
4. Getting applications like Radio Tray or Shutter to show in the System Tray involves circuitous circumventing of a 'Whitelist' (which is there for our protection because we shouldn't really want to use applications which put icons in the tray!) is really going to put off people installing applications which then apparently don't work. (They do work, they just become unusable because you cant see them or do anything with them!)
5. Skype will sometimes load and sometimes won't. Sometimes the sound is corrupted and sometimes not. Despite the fact that Skype is proprietary software, many people need to use it. If it becomes unreliable many people will look elsewhere or go back to Wingedows.
6. In both Unity and Classic the task bar will randomly freeze and become unresponsive, requiring a reboot.
Natty Narwhal? More like Natty Dread at the moment. I dread turning it on and it is dreadful. I'll try Gnome 3 or go back to 10.10. I can no longer recommend Ubuntu as a viable alternative to Windows to my customers.
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May 30, 2011
Is it possible to get the gnome style scrollbars on the classic desktop on 11.04? The new disappearing slider is bugging me. In particular I like clicking on the scrollbar below the slider to advance.
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Jun 1, 2011
I just installed Ubuntu 11.04, to find that I don't like Unity. I want to get back to normal Gnome, but on the login screen, when I select "Classic mode", it gets into Unity anyway.
I also tried to un-check Unity Plugin in Compiz Settings, without success. "Classic mode (no effects)" works great, but like it says, there is no effects at all...
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Jun 12, 2011
Hey all, I recently did a fresh install of 11.04 and decided to poke around with GNOME 3. Long story short it wasn't my cup of tea so I reverted with ppa-purge. Now, Unity isn't my cup of tea either so I like to use Gnome Classic but for some reason now I only have the options of Unity (Ubuntu) and Ubuntu Classic (No effects). Before I installed GNOME 3 I was able to log into Ubuntu Classic (with effects) just fine. I'm an average linux user, not pro but not completely nub so I would prefer to find a way of fixing this without re-installing Ubuntu if possible.
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Jul 7, 2010
'm about to order an iPod 160gb classic and I was wondering if it plays nice with Iucid lynx and which song management app your using. I made use of the search functions and most posts that deal with the classic are a few years old. Just wanted to see if syncing the classic has been made easier in the past few years.
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Apr 29, 2011
I've installed this new Ubuntu 11.04 and I must say its horrible. Not because of the "Unity", but lack of support for multiple monitors. They work in "Gnome Classic", but the problem is there is many bugs. First bug is that any windows I open do not have borders or title bars, and only open in top left corner of the screen. On top of that, I can't type anything in those opened screens like when I open terminal for example. Second bug is that I can't add any new items to panels on other separate screens. As soon as I try to add anything, I get the following errors. "Indicator Applet Complete" has quit unexpectedly. So 11.04 failed for me I'm afraid. At this point I can't use it. This is very said because I was looking forward in running new version of Ubuntu. Its very strange that Ubuntu programmers don't have multiple screens by now to test ubuntu properly. As for Unity, nothing to talk about there. Its pure "Vista" style like screw up. It only works well on laptop or single monitor. I guess all I can do now, is wait again for 11.10 and hope all bugs will be fixed by then to support multiple monitors like 10.10 does now. Also, this will teach me installing new ubuntu version every six months LOL With all the bugs new ubuntu version comes out .04 releases is not worth it. Better wait at least in till .04.1 comes or even .10 versions. fix "Gnome Classic" so it will support multiple screens again. I think its something to do with Compiz, because windows decorations is not working on separate screens.
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May 24, 2011
I have upgraded to version 11.04 and I only use Ubuntu classic - do not like Unity at all.
I think in previous version there was an option in one of the System->Preferences->Appearance dialogs to enable 3D effects partly fully or not at all for GNOME 2. However, I cannot find this dialog any more in version 11.04. Where has it gone?
I would like to make sure that all 3D mumbo-jumbo is completely disabled with ubuntu classic.
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Jul 1, 2011
Ok not sure what is up or how to get it back, the desktop is stuck in classic mode. I want to continue testing with Unity, i think the classic mode is like gnome.i was/am considering switching all my home systems to Ubuntu and want to see if the wife can get accustom to Linux.New user btw, so please bare with me.FYI I think the wife can get used to Unity since it reminds her of an Android
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Jan 24, 2010
this noob is generally *very* satisfied with Karmic since switching over from XP after a horrendous virus wiped out my laptop. My only problems have been with hardware devices. I'm so far unable to get Ubuntu 9.10 to play well with my iPod Classic. I *do* get an iPod icon on the desktop and can move files to it, but gtkpod will not mount it. Rythmbox sees it, but doesn't move files or playlists to it. The gtkpod 'howto' file says I should have the hotplug pkg installed, and I don't see it listed as installed OR available from Synaptic manager, and my web searches for it usually lead to a deadend 'not avail'. Sorry for the verbage. what I need to know is what files / pkgs need to be installed, how do I know if they are on my system, and where do I find them if they are not? I'm assuming my iPod is not mounted correctly but it could be another issue of course.
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Jun 13, 2010
I've installed Lucide Lynx notebook remix on my laptop. But, I don't like the panel that covers the full desktop.
Hence, I would like to see the classic drop-down menu?
How can I get it?
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Apr 1, 2011
i recently installed ubuntu 10.10 64-bit on my laptop and installed all the drivers and updates i saw. When i first started it up my top panel was a solid gray and had a classic look, i saw online that i had to do Alt-F2, type gconf-editor then go to apps,panel,global click locked down, then i log out, log back in and it is fixed with my system theme. after i restart my computer it has the same classic look, and i have to go back to gconf, log out, relog, log out, relog and it finally works. why is it doing this?
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Apr 28, 2011
i just installed ubuntu 11.04 (not beta) and switched to classic mode since it is really slow for some reason.i tried to go in update manager to see if it might fix it,but there arent any new updates.i also checked additional drivers which showed up nothing.when i had 10.10 it was quick and responsive,but 11.04 just makes me want to go back to the old version.can this be a video driver problem that its going slow?
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Apr 29, 2011
I upgraded to NN I am running Nvidia 270 driver The driver works. As you can see, it is running classic. At login I select ubuntu not classic
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Apr 29, 2011
I am wondering if my 10.10 Gnome settings, preferences, color schemes, themes and so on will remain after installing 11.04 and selecting Classic as the default? These live in a separate /home partition, which I obviously will not be formatting.
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May 6, 2011
After installing 11.04 and settling on Ubuntu Classic, I used Synaptic Package Manager to add Glipper, my long-favorite clipboard manager. After some difficulty, I discovered that in 11.04, Glipper is activated by opening the Terminal and issuing the CLI "glipper". This initiates several steps in the Terminal, which for me always failed to conclude. However, after giving up, exiting the Terminal, and doing a number of other things, I had occasion to restart. Following the restart, the Glipper icon was in the panel, and Glipper was working just fine.
FWIW, the difficulties I mentioned above included making several tries at installing ClipIt. In every case, any attempt on my part to actually use ClipIt resulted in a complete freeze. I could recover from these freezes only by cutting off the power to my desktop and then re-powering and re-booting. (Needless to say, ClipIt is no longer installed on my desktop.)
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May 7, 2011
I'd give this unity thing a chance if I didn't have to keep wasting clicks "opening up" the darned menu!!
Q: Can I use the classic gnome start menu with unity?
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