Slackware :: During Boot After In Loads ACPI Thermal Zone?
Oct 11, 2010
It's only been a couple of days since I formatted my toshiba laptop's hard drive (i was running fedora without significant problems) and installed slackware 13.1 32bit. I did a network install because the dvd drive is not functioning properly. everything installed fine with the hugesmp kernel, but I started not being able to boot the laptop every single time I wanted to (especially after a reboot but also after a power up).
my observations:
-the pc might freeze in the very first toshiba logo screen (where you are prompted to press F2 to enter BIOS)
-or it might freeze when I get the lilo boot loader (not even the count down to choose kernel starts) - but i CAN use the arrows and press 'enter' to choose to load a kernel manually
-or just after it loads the kernel and the bios checks
-or during boot after in loads ACPI thermal zone
-or a little later during boot when the dhcpcd if broadcasting for a dhcp lease.
the first 3 are freezes, the last 2 are resets. especially if i need to reboot (or get the resets of the 2 last case), I will surely get stack in one of the first 3 cases afterwards! i have observed that rarely, after such a reset, if it actually gets stack in the toshiba logo, i might be able - pressing the poiwer buttonj repeatedly to actually overcome the 'freezing' there at which time i'll get to the lilo loader (the count down timer will not.. count down), but i can press 'enter' and I will finally get stack after loading the kernel and bios checks
So I have to powerdown the laptop and start all over again. Sometimes the whole boot process will proceed smoothly. and i'll get to a login prompt, and when I do I can keep the laptop up and running for virtually ever. that is it doesn't seem to be slackware related... Hwever the problems started after I installed slackware. I didn't have any problem with the fedora installation and i wonder if it has something to do with the network boot.... additional note, with feodra i didn't have a problem restarting or shutting down the laptop. now if i restart, the pc will go through the process of shutting down, but it will never actually reboot - i'll have to do it manually..
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Aug 31, 2010
I originally installed Kubuntu 7.10 on an ACER laptop (exact model escapes me at the moment) and subsequently upgraded to 9.10 and then to 10.04. Starting with 9.10, I had problems with the computer suddenly turning off in the middle of doing work. Eventually, I figured out that when this happened, the bottom panel had gotten quite warm so it probably a thermal control measure. Further, I discovered that I could prevent this by setting the power regulator to powersave, which effectively kept frequency scaling at 50% and under which I never had the computer suddenly turn, the only exceptions being when unplugged the computer and replugged it in and it would switch to dynamic power policy thus running at full power.
However, after "upgrading" to 10.04, I can't do anything to restrict frequency scaling. Whether I set the regulator to powersave, ondemand or anything, CPU frequency can go to full capacity until it heats the CPU to the critical trip point, invoking poweroff. Sometimes, this would happen just a few minutes after "acpi -t" reported 40C (is there some way to test the output from acpi, I've seen it report obviously wrong figures such as 0C when the room was considerably above freezing?). While trying to figure out what to do, I discovered the /proc/acpi/thermal directory and subsequently the /sys/dev/... directory.
I would like to know which directory I should focus on and what files in order to establish trip points and direct actions that will force the system to reduce heating so it won't reach critical. It's not like it's particularly compute intensive tasks triggering this. I have had it happen while running nothing more than the windowing system, system monitor, terminal and paging through a file with less. I have looked for documentation online but have not found anything that clearly explains what I need to do. The only parts I understand from what I've found are "[critical]: S5", "[active]", and "[passive]". The "[passive]" line included items like "tc=..." and "device=0x...", but I have no idea whatsoever what any of those settings do and the documents do absolutely nothing to explain them.
1) what file I need to edit, 2) what options I can set in the file, 3) what values those options can take and 4) what effects those values have on ACPI's behavior. Lastly, the default setting HAVE GOT TO BE CHANGED. Having poweroff as the first line of defense against overheating is simply UNACCEPTABLE. What would happen if this occurs during the middle of a system upgrade? I know at least enough to figure what needs to be done, even if I can't figure out how to do it. Many users can't even do that and I don't think they should have to. The installation process should automatically detect what methods of reducing thermal output available (reducing frequency scaling, throttling, fans) and set trip points that invoke them before reaching critical.
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Jun 5, 2010
this isn't so much slackware specific as it is general linux related, but using the default huge slackware kernel included with 13.1, acpi reports cpu temps of about 55 celsius i always like to run my own kernels though, and using the latest stable kernel, i have compiled one using what i believe is necessary for my hardware, and everything works as expected except that acpi reports my cpu temp as 80 celsius at idle, causing my fan to be running constantly
so without simply using the generic config included with slack in the newer kernel, what do you think might be causing the thermal issues? i used diff on the two configs and the output is over 5,000 lines, so thats not a huge help, and im really not even sure what to be looking for the cpu is an intel i7 720qm, so if anyone might know any specific settings for that processor type needed for acpi to interface with it properly that would be much obliged here is my config for potential review: [URL] also, if i disable acpi entirely, the fan operates as normal but i cannot get readings obviously
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Echoing different integers to the cur_state files limits the maximum cpu frequency for cpu0 and cpu1, respectively. This behaviour is expected from what I've read, and mimics the options in Windows power manager for extending battery life by throttling the CPUs. I've had no luck with google and local man pages, so has anybody has seen an applet for controlling /sys/class/thermal/cooling_device[0|1]/cur_state?
On a side note, a value of 1 does slow the CPU down, but it will still hit 100C (normal for an Intel mobile duo core). However, values of 2 and larger throttle enough to lower the maximum CPU temp. Since the CPU temp is a good indicator of power consumption, it's pretty obvious that these two cur_state files are intended to extend battery life. dd_wizard
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When I run OpenSUSE from the Live CD using normal settings, booting stops with a blank screen a moment after the kernel is loaded. When running it with ACPI disabled, it works, but direct rendering is disabled, even though it detects my video card (Mobility Radeon HD 5650) correctly Here's the Xorg.0.log file: my xorg log - [URL]
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I have random X freezes (suddenly keyboard and mouse stop to react). Xorg.O.log is error and warnings free. The only problems I see in syslog/ dmesg are related to ACPI.
I have Asus P5E3 Deluxe motherboard. Slackware 13.1
Linux vareg 2.6.33.4-smp #2 SMP Wed May 12 22:47:36 CDT 2010 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
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I ahve also today upgraded my BIOS to 1303 version. Still no difference.
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[37.439999] thinkpad_acpi: THERMAL ALLERT: unknown thermal allert received
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I use Slackware 13.37 32-bit version on ThinkPad X60s. I compiled two Window Maker dockable applications monitoring the processor temperature, fan speed, and battery status: wmpower (see: [URL]) and wmlenovo (see: [URL]). Both these applications refuse to work.
wmpower displays the messages:
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CPU frequency scaling available
No power management subsystem detected
No power management support...
wmlenovo displays the message:
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No ACPI support in kernel
Did I missed something obvious during the configuration of the system and ACPI doesn't work for me or there's some more serious problem with my system?
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# Power management and ACPI options
CONFIG_ARCH_HIBERNATION_HEADER=y
CONFIG_PM=y
# CONFIG_PM_DEBUG is not set
CONFIG_PM_SLEEP_SMP=y
CONFIG_PM_SLEEP=y
CONFIG_SUSPEND_NVS=y
CONFIG_SUSPEND=y
CONFIG_SUSPEND_FREEZER=y
CONFIG_HIBERNATION=y .....
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Below is a piece of copy from my /etc/acpi_handler.sh
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case "$1" in
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[code]....
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I think I must say as well that the wifi is working flawless with Windows Vista and Slackware 13.
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