Hardware :: How Do Atom Based Systems Compare
Jun 16, 2010
Does anyone have any experience with the Atom processor line? How do they compare single core to single core, dual core to dual core with other Intel and Amd chips? Do they work well with linux, or are there hardware issues?
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Jan 1, 2010
I'm running CentOS 5.4 on an Atom 230-based MSI MS-7418 motherboard. I'd like to monitor this host' CPU temperature as well as the HD's temperature, but can't get lm_sensors to work:
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# uname -a
Linux msi.workgroup 2.6.18-164.9.1.el5 #1 SMP Tue Dec 15 21:04:57 EST 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
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Sep 17, 2010
On Debian, if I want to compile some package X myself, but I don't want to spend time hunting down and installing its dependencies, I can issue the following command:
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apt-get build-dep X
And apt (so long as it knows about package X) will install all the dependencies for me.Does the yum package manager on RedHat-based systems have a similar feature?
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May 15, 2010
I just did an update on my Debian system and it was very long. I'd like to know now, after the upgrades have already been applied, which packages were upgraded and which were not.
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Jun 16, 2009
Is there a way to boot any current kernel without the nolapic flag on ICH8-based intel T7300 systems? This system works fine with the last 2.26 kernel from FC8, but due to EOL of the security updates I tried to install FC11 and FC10. The first sign of trouble is that their installation only works with acpi=off or nolapic options. As those options disable either fan-control or the second cpu-core I consider them undesirable. Is there a recent correctly working kernel available? Or do I have to downgrade to a distribution that uses a 2.26 kernel?
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Aug 26, 2009
I have 2 live IP based Linux systems .
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Both systems connected in same LAN based network . Both WAN live ips are connected through different modems. Problem is that , no system is able to ping or connect with other system with Live ip , though they are able to connect through LAN ip and both systes are accessable and also able to browse internet (google etc..) Ping error :-- Destination Host Unreachable.
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Jun 7, 2010
I notice that on DistroWatch, the descriptions include "debian based", "arch based", etc. For the newbie, is there any practical difference between the different bases, or is it a Coke vs Pepsi type question?
Is a distro based on Debian say, easier for a newbie to learn or work with than say one that is FreeBSD based?
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Aug 12, 2010
I've got some source code that loads and plays WAV files through the OSS drivers (and USB audio). The code works even under 2.6.34. Is there any benefit to rewriting the code using the ALSA system?
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Apr 24, 2010
I am working on a set up, and I like to be able to toggle compiz on and off, or toggle dualscreen on and off. The thing is, I also have conky on my desktop as well as a terminal window embedded in my desktop (that requires compiz). So, when I turn comiz off, or resize my desktop, I want to be able to reposition conky/embedded-terminal and the terminals position is relative to my conky position and the size of my virtual desktop.
I can do this all fine, except that to reposition the terminal I need to kill it then reopen it. But if I kill gnome-terminal it kills ALL gnome-terminals instead of just my embedded one. How can I specifically close my embedded one and leave any others untouched? Lets say that the title of my embedded terminal is "trans777"Also, the trans777 titled gnome-terminal will be killed when compiz is not running.
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Apr 5, 2010
When you use an IDE and it asks you if you want frame based or dialog based, what is the difference?
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Feb 2, 2011
what distro should i use, rpm based or debian based?
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May 19, 2011
I've a e-machine netbook with the atom n450 processor.
Even with a non-stressing use (only browser ad music player) the cpu gets too hot.
Today with lm-sensors i detected a 58°C temperature.
It's not a sensor problem because if i touch it i feel it really hot.
With Windows xp i haven't this problem.
The frequency scaling works (i don't know if well) because with conky i see it change.
What should i do or try?
On the system all the packages I've installed comes from the repository, all but volume icon.
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Apr 3, 2011
I want to make a x86 based router using a mini-ITX board and I found 2 options, Asrock AMD-E350M1(~$140) and Intel Atom D525MW(~$94).
1. AMD-E350:
Pro:
It's slightly faster than atom D525.
It has AMD-V(virtualization support)
It can be used as HTPC(1080p)
It can be used for GPGPU
Uses ~max 25W for CPU+(capable)GPU
Con:
Single Channel Memory
PCI-e slot is bad for router( I found 4-port PCI NIC at $25. 2-port PCI-e cards are $60 and 4-port PCI-e cards are $150 )
2. Intel Atom D525:
Pro:
PCI slot(see above)
Dual Channel Memory
Cheaper than AMD E-350
Passive Cooling
Con:
Uses SODIMMs
It cannot be used as HTPC(doesn't play 1080p, not even 720p)
It cannot be used for GPGPU
I plan to use the mini-ITX board with 4GB RAM:
AMD E-350 with 4GB ram(1x$51)=$191 -> cpubenchmark.net score is 744. Regarding the CPU the value is 3.8952/$
Intel Atom D525 with 4GB(2x$29)=$152 -> cpubenchmark.net score is 714. Regarding the CPU the value is 4.6973/$
I would like to have a mini-ITX board that is capable of having one VM runing the router OS and 2nd VM runing pyrit on the GPU.
If it is possible to run pyrit on the APUs GPU I would choose AMD E-350 because I can put in PCI-e NIC to run the router OS. If not, I have to stick with Intel Atom D525, 4GB RAM would be a waste, but also I would waste a lot of CPU time.
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May 16, 2010
Can you run Linux on this? [url] And will the WIFI work with Linux? I have been looking for something like this for a long time. I want to run Centos 5.5 on it.
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Mar 19, 2011
I found Atom CPU is slow when booting the system, screen shows "Loading Linux ......................", is it because the N270 is running at half speed before the kernel is completely load to memory?
Kernel 2.6.32 is even slow because the kernel image is bigger than lenny. Is there a way to speed up this?
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Jul 9, 2010
Im trying to be able to output video to my tv with a low end atom cpu box(link below) running debian lenny. I realize it wont likely be true HD video. I also realize I wont be getting surround sound. My tv is a little bit older so it doesnt have a monitor input or I would have tried that. It does have HDMI and component though and i have a DVI to hdmi adapter and audio cables that will work once I have a video out solution. It does have a PCIE expansion bay but the power supply is only like 150w so i dont know that Ill be able to use a regular video card. I had considered some sort of usb output but dont know if any of that will work on linux. Any suggestions? Im pretty novice with the whole computer on my tv area and dont have alot of money to build a whole new system or i would just do that.
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Nov 11, 2010
on my new nettop acer veriton n281g ( atom d425) i need a VM with XP . What is the best choise virtualbox or kvm or other ...
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Jul 28, 2010
I'm buying a new fanless desktop unit with 2 x 1.66GHz Intel Atom D510 CPUs. The vendor calls these a '64-bit processor'. But the unit has just 4Gb of memory and I don't want the fuss of 64-bit for the basic stuff I do. So I asked them to load Lucid-32.
Will the processors work with 32-bit?
The vendor tells me 32-bit won't make full use of the 4GB, only three and a half, but all else will be fine. So they'll load 32 and I'll try a live DVD of 64 in my own time. But I thought 32 bit was fine up to and including 4GB of memory?
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Mar 23, 2011
I get a wrong architecture error when I try to install the .deb .A fully 32 bit enabled install of Ubuntu 10.10 86-64 on a D525 Atom based system does not seem to work at all. It will not install with gdebi or the new Ubuntu software centre.I have the 32 bit required OpenMotif libs installed...and all the other stuff that is i386 arch works perfect. I really want to run the 64 bit os but perhaps I can dual boot it with Fedora 32. There is nothing in the asus bios of the board that says emulate i386 like with AMD 64 chips...I thought that the D525 atom was fine as it will run 32 bit XP or any 32 bit linux.
So what might be the trouble with running 32 bit software on Ubuntu 10.10 64 on this machine? Why does the Ubuntu hacked gdebi software install system insist that i386 software is the wrong arch for this intel atom?This is really maddening as my wife's work demands this citrix client, and the last thing that I want to do is run out and buy an oem of Windows 7.been there done that with 98, XP, and Vista I am looking to ditch her noisy POS vacuum cleaner vista machine..but I cannot do it until I have the linux citrix client installed and working.
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Jan 19, 2010
Just I need some clarification. Is there any different form compilation is for Intel ATOM processor? Its same like all other intel processors right? Or it has any different type of compilation should be followed for Intel atom processor?
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Jan 25, 2010
Is it possible? Its an Acer Aspire One.
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Jan 19, 2010
Just i need some clarification. Is there any different form compilation is for Intel ATOM processor? Its same like all other intel processors right? or it has any different type of compilation should be followed for Intel atom processor?
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Feb 20, 2010
I want to create my own Atom feed file covering some informational posts on a web page. I will maintain it by hand, so I would prefer it to be as minimalistic a file as possible, yet still a valid Atom file.I found Atom specification documents online, but there was so much information I felt like a rowboat on the Pacific ocean. I did not find a specific section declaring exactly what /had/ to be in a Atom feed file.
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May 21, 2011
I've got a netbook
Intel Pinetrail ATOM, 1.66GHz 667MHz FSB
NM 10 Express
Intel GMA3150 до 256 Мб
DDR2 667/800 2 ГБ
SATA 320 gb
and I'm trying to install Slackware 13.37 on it. I can boot from USB cdrom and start installation. On the first step I'm able to choose the kernel (hugesmp.s or huge.s) and no matter what I choose installation freezes and all I see is black screen.
The same story with Slackware 13.1, 13.0, Debian 6
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Feb 3, 2009
I did a couple searches for my Chipset and my Motherboard but I didn't get any results, I am building a Router/PBX to replace my current one and CentOS based distros are my distros of choice (Trixbox/PBX in a Flash). My new motherboard is the Jetway NC91-230-LF which has the INTEL 945GC Northbridge and an Intel ICH7 Southbridge. Which I have seen has a few known issues. When I attempt to boot the CentOS 5.2 installation or any other CentOS based OS I get the following error message:
I have also chronicalled the project at my blog.
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Jun 17, 2010
The intel <Xorg> driver provides 2D and 3D support for Intel integrated graphics chipsets, including the i810, 915{G,GM}, 945{G,GM,GME}, 946GZ, 965{G,GM,Q}, G33, Q33 and Q35; the <GMA 500> is not supported.
Packaged for Debian as xserver-xorg-video-intel. [url] [url] [url].
Poulsbo is the codename of Intel's second-generation ultra mobile PC chipset. Its GMA 500 graphics core is not supported by the intel Xorg driver; ITP xserver-xorg-video-psb filed as Debian bug #533450.
Poulsbo (chipset) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - [url]
Poulsbo's graphics core GMA 500 is currently not well supported by Intel for the Linux platform.
However there is a quite easy way to have the drivers work on any Debian-based distribution, thanks to the Ubuntu sources and packages, for the linux kernel 2.6.30 (with newer kernel it would need a little hacking but seems still possible while the sources are included).
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Jun 23, 2010
I'm using a purpose built computer with Intel Atom N270 CPU and running OpenSUSE 11.2 (Intel� 945GSE + ICH7-M chipset)
If I leave ACPI = Enabled in the BIOS Setup, then the Yast Hardware Profile shows 2 x N270 running at 800 MHz.
If I turn ACPI = Disabled in the BIOS Setup, then the Yast Hardware Profile shows 1 x N270 running at 1.60 GHz.
Anyone experienced this with their system? Intel Atom N270 is a single core, so why is it seen as a dual core with ACPI on? Based on the above, should I simply leave ACPI turned off?
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Mar 17, 2011
I have HP 5103 with Atom N550, installed openSUSE 11.4 64bit. CPU freq. is always 1 GHz and I am not able to change it to max. 1,5 GHz. I am Linux beginner.
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Jul 28, 2010
If opensuse will run on a notebook with an Intel atom processor?
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Jul 30, 2010
I just upgraded my system from oS 11.2 to oS 11.3 on Thursday. I've chosen the network-CD and booted from an USB-pen-drive, as my netbook doesn't have a CD-drive.I new experience that my computer freezes obviously randomly. It's not just a programme crashing, but the whole computer just halts. Nothings working anymore - mouse is not moving, keyboard doesn't respond, I can't even switch to another tty.I tried to remember what I was doing right before the crashes. Once I used the new netbook-desktop of KDE and had typed for an application in that "cool" new desktop. The desktop wend "blank" (the application folders disappeared and I was waiting till the results were shown) and then the computer froze. Just right now I used Okular, selected some text and opened the context-menu when the computer died, the other time I closed the Yakuake with F12 and the computer didn't respond just right before the window was minimized at the top and last but not least I had that "Expose"-like window arrangement opened and clicked at the black background when everything hang up.
What could be the reason for it? oS 11.2 worked perfectly - I hadn't had any crash during 5 months of intense use. I suspected the new graphics driver, but I can't find any reported bug about the Intel 945 GMA* or anything about the new KDE 4.4.4 on atom processors.
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