General :: OS - Upgrade Or A Fresh Install Which Distro Is Best In Handling Upgrades?
Feb 25, 2010
Pretty soon, I hope, I'll get my brand new PC and wish to install a Linux disto. on it. openSuse may be it But I read recently that people prefer to do a fresh install of a newer version of openSuse, instead of upgrading it, apparently because of problems that may occur by the upgrade. As I understand, this preference apply to all Linux distributions and not only openSuse. Thus I wonder if there's a Linux distro. that's best in handling upgrades?I don't want to make a fresh new install each and every time that my disro. has a new version. I'm afraid to lose the data in that installation, and backing-up the data would be a headache. Also I plan to install a Windows OS alongside the Linux one via the Dual Boot configuration.
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Mar 29, 2010
I'm running 10.04 and for several days now I get two packages that are grayed out and do not upgrade in upgrade-manager.
If I use the shell and apt-get I get the following message: The following packages have been kept back: firefox-gnome-support update-manager
The system is functioning well, but these 2 packages just linger as I process probably hundreds of lucid upgraded packages.
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Feb 2, 2011
After logging into a fresh Debian 5.0 (lenny) install from a VPS (virtual private server) provider, I run 'apt-get update' and then 'apt-get upgrade' in attempt to get all the security updates, assuming that's what said commands do. Along the way exim (exim4) and possibly other programs (not confirmed) gets installed and is setup to run on bootup...despite it not being installed previously. Why is this? I would expect that either 1) previously uninstalled pkgs are not installed with the 'upgrade," or 2) if 'upgrade' essentially performing a "install everything that's not already installed" maneuver, I wonder why it's not installing a LOT more packages (then just the view I see installed on my system during the 'upgrade.')
Separately: can someone confirm an 'apt-get update' followed by apt-get upgrade' on a fresh Debian 5.0 install system will basically upgrade to 5.0.8 ("current rev level" for lenny)?
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Apr 25, 2010
I upgraded from Karmic to Lucid via Terminal, and everything is working nicely. However, after switching the desktop on, the OS loads OK up to GRUB loading, when new Plymouth is supposed to kick in. But all I get is a pixelated image. The five dots still flash correctly signalling the OS is loading. Apart from that, I did not notice anything else wrong.
Just to check whether it was the upgrade process to have gone wrong, I did a fresh install of Kubuntu RC, this time. As soon as I inserted the live CD, however, I could tell the end result would be the same, for the same pixelation appeared while the CD was loading. And in fact, after installation, I got the same problem (see uploaded photo). So, I'm guessing, maybe it depends on my graphic card? I'm on a Matrox G450, which has always worked fine (for example, on Kubuntu it uses kwin without a hiccup). I'm currently on Kubuntu, but the issue occurs both on it and Ubuntu, where Compiz is deactivated (don't even know if that matters), and I'm only on Metacity. If Plymouth can't be correctly displayed by my card, shouldn't it have a sort of fall-back mechanism allowing users like me to have a close-to-normal experience?
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Jul 23, 2010
I just activated backports and partners and I got it.
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I just bought a newish asus x83vm-x2 and am dual-booting seven and lucid lynx. On my last two computers I had migrated completely to Ubuntu, but windows 7 has a few compelling features...Anyways- I'm having issues upgrading the kernel on my fresh install of ubuntu (not that it matters, but I installed via jump drive).In update manager, the kernel upgrades are grayed out.
In synaptic, I get these (current kernel version is 2.6.32.21.22 btw)-
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linux-generic:
Depends: linux-image-generic (=2.6.32.24.25) but 2.6.32.21.22 is to be installed
linux-image-generic:[code]....
It appears as thought "linux-image-2.6.32-24-generic" is not in the repository... but if that were the case, you'd think that my machine would just auto-update to an earlier version. IDK- I'm confuddled.
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Mar 22, 2011
Still in 8.04 hardy heron, ordinary upgrade via automatic upgrade does not work, some essential pieces missing, but also my bios does not support usb cd and my "original" cd drive is broken. So........ I have burnt a cd Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx desktop version
32 bit (intel).
1) I have broken cd drive and old bios, i have usb cd drive instead which is not supported by bios when boot from cd.
2) I have still Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron but if i upgrade to 10.04 from there via automatic upgrade, this does not work, some patches missing, whatever, but upgrade this way does not work and in the end the system is set back to 8.04 again...
3) I have burnt a cd with entire Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx which i had downloaded from the web at ubuntu com; within my 8.04 i want to install all of it, so i want to install 10.04 this way, so a fresh installation via my usb cd (this is also the way i had burnt this cd image; the cd shows all the files so it is the right way burnt), so just not via bios boot, or how to explain this best.
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Jul 17, 2011
I upgraded my Ubuntu server install to 11.04 and could not connect to anything outside of it. Its a weird issue because if I run a ping against it as its booting up for about 20 seconds or so I get responses, then it says unreachable. (This is a wired connection by the way). If i login fast enough on the server itself I can ping google for instance and get a response, then it just stops and says host unreachable from that point on.
I then decided to setup a fresh install on the system (virtual server) and I get the same issue. All throughout the install it connected fine, just up until it fully restarts. Its like some service starts that just kills the connection. I rolled back to 10.10 on my other instance and it can connect fine.. Ive been trying everything I can find on the forums but I am pretty stumped by this,
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Sep 2, 2010
Every where I look online, people are posting ridiculous non-working ways to upgrade their system from one release to another--they do not work for me and I need a definite expert reply. I am working with a fresh install of Debian Lenny/Stable and wish to upgrade to the frozen Squeeze distribution. Supplementing the word "squeeze" in place of "lenny" in my sources.list file does not work and believe this to be an inappropriate way of upgrading. I have tried upgrading apt, dpkg, and aptitude before beginning the upgrade process, cleaning dpkg cache, rebooting, etc.
After updating the above packages I tried all methods of upgrading: safe-upgrade, full-upgrade, and dist-upgrade. All produce dependency problems and try to remove the gnome-desktop package or upgrade everything else except gnome-desktop. (Other packages are also affected, gnome-desktop is the most important in this instance). As I understand it, when upgrading you can comment out the volatile repositories as well as the security updates, is this correct?--either way I have tried countless combination's off commenting/uncommenting to try to get the needed results. I do not want use sid repos or reinstall.
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Nov 3, 2010
I would like to know if someone was able to upgrade/fresh install ubuntu 10.10 maverick on a dell studio hybrid. First I've tried to upgrade. Everything went well, until the system started. First thing to notice is that the orange was so bright that was almost impossible to look at the monitor. Not a big deal, adjusting some monitor brightness etc. Second the mouse (usb) stopped for some fraction of a second, or a second, when you click to open a program. It is annoying but it is also a problem that I could wait to find some solution.
Third and worse, it was completely impossible to see videos in vlc or other players, I've tried vlc, xine, etc, the videos was stuttered, choppy. SMPlayer was able to play them better. I've tried the solution here [URL] and it does not work at least for me. Fourth the fans went completely crazy, running as mainly when I have to use smplayer, I've found some complains about that [URL] but the solution does not apply to my computer.
Then I've tried a fresh install hoping that some of the troubles would not appear. The only trouble solved was the look and feel. Mouse the same trouble, stuttered, choppy videos on vlc, fans running all the time. And now it was impossible to install the wireless proprietary driver Broadcom sta. The only solution was to come back to Lucid. A fresh install of Lucid and mouse working ok, no troubles seeing videos in vlc, fans working absolutely normal and no troubles to install the wireless driver.
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May 9, 2010
I'm trying to update an Ubuntu Server install to 10.04. I believe something went wrong when I upgraded it from 8.10 to 9.10 in the past. Currently /etc/apt/sources.list would indicate the system is running 9.10, but /etc/issue says 8.10, as does lsb_release -a.
apt-get update and apt-get upgrade show everything is up to date. When I do a do-release-upgrade it tells me that there are no upgrades available.
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Jun 14, 2010
When I click "check" in Update Manager it tries to download 541 files, skiping each one and the giving me this message: Quote: W: GPG error: http://linux.dropbox.com karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY FC918B335044912E W: An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://download.virtualbox.org karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 54422A4B98AB5139
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Jan 9, 2010
nominate a disastrous distro from past or present that was simply AWFUL and what exactly was so bad about it?
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Jul 2, 2010
I bought laptop HP ProBook 4520s (Core i3, ATI Mobility Radeon 4350, 4GB 1333MHz Ram).I'm looking for the best Linux distro to install on it. With which distro do you think it will cooperate best?I had a problem with Ubuntu 10.04 (stripes when playing video).
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Mar 4, 2011
which distro should to install without having to burn a cd. i have grub installed though so i guess extraction the iso and pointing it to files to boot would be a good option.
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Mar 28, 2011
I've got this log file and I need to get all sorts of information from it...
24 - [02/Sep/2010:00:01:16 +0200] - 10.1.53.62 - 200
23 - [02/Sep/2010:00:01:26 +0200] - 10.1.53.62 - 200
19 - [02/Sep/2010:00:01:56 +0200] - 10.1.53.62 - 200
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Oct 6, 2010
I am trying to install Android development plugin to Eclipse, but it has a problem with version (i think). I installed my eclipse using yum.
Now, I want to try uninstalling eclipse and use the version from the eclipse.org website instead to avoid this problem. I run rpm and got the folllowing mesg.
Code:
How do I uninstall all the eclipse component and re-install it fresh?
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Mar 14, 2010
i normally use live cd's/dvd's. well i really liked black panther but, my problem is that it's in Hungary and that it did not give me any information on what the user and password is to log in for the first time.
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Jan 24, 2010
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allen@heavy:/etc$ uname -a
Linux heavy 2.6.31-17-generic #54-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 10 16:20:31 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
FAT: IO charset ISO-8859-1 not found
I just recently installed Xubuntu 9.10 on my old acer Aspire 3000. Previously I was running Debian 5. Something it was great and all but I wanted to try out the "New Hotness" that is Xubuntu. The install went flawless and as far as Linux distro's go this is by far the most impressive. However, I have this problem with my USB storage devices not mounting. When I plug them in they show up and everything looks like its about to work when I get this: [URL]
A quick jaunt over to dmesg:
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[ 2950.184072] usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6
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[ 2950.320178] usb 1-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
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[ 2950.326192] scsi5 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
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[ 2950.326513] usb-storage: device found at 6
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[ 2950.326519] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
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[ 2955.324403] usb-storage: device scan complete .....
I've been all over google, in multiple irc rooms asking questions, and I cant seem to get anywhere. I can mount the devices manually with mount -t auto /dev/sdb1 /mountpoint. They mount themselves when I plug them in.
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Mar 1, 2010
I just finish my LFS distro and now the only way I have to install it on another computer is copying files from a box two another. I want to make this proccess easy, user friendly if possible, like making an install DVD that I could just put in the drive and choose install, no livecd is needed.
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Feb 10, 2011
I just bought a few nova5000 computers for a decent price and i want to put a linux distro on it. all the info on the computer is at [url]
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Jun 1, 2010
I currently own a Viliv x70ex UMPC. It has Windows 7 Home Prem. currently loaded on it, but I would very much like to set up a dual-boot partition for a a Linux install. My current issues stem from the fact that thus far to date, my research has essentially come up with more issues than solutions as far as this goes. Among other things, I've seen lots of references to driver issues for the touch screen, graphic issues with the Intel GMA that's installed, and so on. If anyone out there can shed some light on this problem, or be able to direct me to a resource with a tutorial for doing this,
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May 18, 2011
I have been hearing some cool things about window managers like fluxbox and I was wondering what the best distro is to put it on? Is fluxbox the best window manager to use?
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Mar 17, 2011
when i got my starling netbook 6 months ago it worked perfectly. due to upgrades since then i now have problems with printing, sound and videos. there are probably solutions to all of these things if i spent hours here on the forum asking questions, and trying different solutions, but it seems like a lot of work.
upgrade manager calls these things "important security upgrades". are they really important to security? would my computer be dangerously vulnerable to attack if i never did an upgrade?
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Aug 3, 2010
What is the maximum amount of ddr that can be installed in a 64 bit ubuntu linux system computer?
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Feb 16, 2010
I am writing completion function for one PHP framework called symfony. It has command line interface with syntax:
Code:
symfony [options] [namespace:]action
I want to make action be autocompletable. The function is simplest so far:
Code:
function _symfony_commands()
{
[ -r "cache/completion/.sf" ] && cat cache/completion/.sf
}
[code]....
But, if there is : symbol which separate namespace from action problems coming:
symfony doct[TAB]
will be completed to
symfony doctrine:
But nothing happens if you want complete after : symbol. I've found out that for readline there is three words because it splits line with $COMP_WORDBREAKS
Code:
$ echo $COMP_WORDBREAKS
"'><=;|&(:
I played with $COMP_WORDS array and tried every thought I had to make it work, but failed.
What I should do to escape colon and make readline consider it as one word? Or there is way perhaps to workaround it?
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Jun 8, 2011
I have a 8 GB flash drive and a 4.3 GB DVD iso (openSUSE-11.3) Is it possible to use the flash drive to install the linux? Pendrive linux universal USB installer formats it to Fat32 which limits the filesystem to 4 GB.
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Feb 28, 2010
I have this ancient Dell Dimension V333 with a Pentium II 333 MHz and 320MB RAM that my family needs for web browsing, word processing, etc. What I need is a distro that is easy to setup and install and easy to use because they have only ever used windows (and a little ubuntu).
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Mar 28, 2011
If I can install more than one distro on my Multiple boot pc. I already have, Mandriva, Win xp, and Win 7 on. But you know how it is, you want to try out all the linux systems if that is possible. I guess using a live cd would allow me to do it. I do not want to bugger up the systems I already have on.
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Oct 5, 2010
i multibooted with windows 7 and ubuntu 10 lucid, windows crashed for some reason and ubuntu remained running live and strong, but i want to do a clean install of windows while still having my installation of ubuntu untouched. i tried doing this on several machines but windows ended up becoming the dominant bootloader and i couldn't get grub to recognize the windows os partition and the linux partition for booting but when i did i only got the linux distro and i didn't see windows when i tried to boot into the distro it just re-directed to the grub menu it just kept doing this until i decided to turn the machine off
is there a way to install windows and dual boot it with linux if linux was installed first
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Jul 11, 2011
I've been dabbling into linux by installing Wubi on my main computer, out of ease to install, but I use windows to do many things I'm not sure if I could do as easily in linux. Anyway, I had a macbook before I got my new main computer, and have been wondering if I can install linux on my macbook to test out other distros without potentially endangering my main computer (out of complete idiocy on my part, of course). Is this possible? Is there any specific "guide" out to do this?
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