Fedora Installation :: Installation - Creating A Swap Partition Or A Boot Partition?
Jul 27, 2009
I have a brand new thinkpad X301 with 4GB of RAM and thinking of getting fedora 11 on it. The plan is to have it triple boot with vista/seven and hopefully OSx86. I am aware of the 4 primary partitions limit on an MBR disk. I was thinking of having a swap file instead of swap partition and not creating a boot partition as well. If I install the boot loader(GRUB?) on the root partition will I be able to boot it without any problems by using vista's boot loader?
Or Maybe I should install GRUB on the MBR and add all the other operating systems on it? Does anyone have any objections for not creating a swap partition or a boot partition? When comes to desktop environment I've been using KDE in the past, is there any major advantage of using Gnome over it? KDE seems to look really nice on fedora where Gnome is maybe more stable?
I am having issues with Grub 2 after installing Debian 7.8.0.The computer is a HP Pavilion 500-307nb. I made the original harddrive /dev/sdb and inserted a Samsung Evo 840 as /dev/sda. From the original hard drive (/dev/sdb), I wiped the windows partition, but left all other partitions unchanged (in case I would ever want to recover the desktop to its original state). I replaced the wiped windows partition with a swap partition and an LVM partition.These are my hard drive partitions:
/dev/sda (Samsung Evo 840)
Number Start End Size File system Name Flags 1 1049kB 3146kB 2097kB primary bios_grub 2 3146kB 944MB 941MB ext4 boot 3 944MB 94.4GB 93.4GB host lvm 4 94.4GB 1000GB 906GB guests lvm
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The partition /dev/sda3 has 2 logical volumes with filesystem ext4 that I mount to / and /home.The partition /dev/sda2 is mounted to /boot..When I install like this, Debian installs fine, however Grub2 is not installed correctly.Debian installs grub-pc which seems not able to boot the gpt partition. So I boot the Debian CD in rescue mode and execute:
mount /dev/sda2 /boot aptitude purge grub-pc aptitude -y install grub-efi
After rebooting, I come in the grub rescue shell, which says: error: no such device: 986f2176--4a4b-4222-83b9-8636a034b3c7.
When I then enter in the grub rescue shell: set boot=(hd0,gpt2) set prefix=(hd0,gpt2)/grub insmod normal normal
Grub and Debian start up correctly.why can Grub not start up automatically correctly? Where does the UUID 986f2176--4a4b-4222-83b9-8636a034b3c7 come from? I have reinstalled Grub several times, I have reinstall Debian several times, I have even wiped all partitions from /dev/sda and recreated a new gpt table with parted and manually set the partitions in parted. Still on each reinstallation, Grub fails because it cannot find exactly the same UUID. Since this UUID is always the same, it must be stored somewhere, but it cannot be the partitions, I have wiped them and the partition table several times.
I did though a firmware update of the Samsung Evo 840 before reinstallation, could this be a cause?Also the problem is not in grub.cfg. Grub starts correctly if I enter the commands above in the grub rescue screen and the UUID value does not appear there.
I'm running 9.10 off of a 4 GiB CF card. I keep running into space issues with updates, so I purchased an 8 GiB replacement card. I've cloned the 4 GiB card to a .IMG file using DD.I've then copied the 4 GiB image back to the 8 GiB card using the Ubuntu startup disk creator program. Once done, I'm able to properly boot off of the new 8 GiB clone.Unfortunately, the clone ends up with 3.67 GiB of unallocated space at the end *see attached). I tried deleting the "extended" partition that the swap is located at after booting from a Live CD and the system was unable to boot after this. I was thinking that I would delete the swap entirely and create a swap file after I merged the existing partitions, but I was unable to do this.
best way to do this (e.g. get one large 8 GiB partition with my old image on it)? I still have the original untouched 4 GiB card and also have an external CF drive if I need to redo the cloning. I've also used Clonezilla before, so perhaps there's a way to do this that allow me to grow the image as it's being cloned.
Ive decided to create a new thread because my old one had become rather complicated and now had a misleading title.
I have a laptop with Windows XP and because of a few programs I want to keep it on and dual boot with Ubuntu. I have created a boot partition at the beginning of the harddisk because I had broken the 137gb and cant keep Ubuntu at the end and still make it bootable.
The separate boot partition is at the beginning of the disk and mounted as /boot in the installation.
The system still cant boot into Ubuntu, but at least grub shows up with a decent menu and I can choose Windows. When I try to choose Ubuntu it says that it cant find the specific drive. The UUID is the same as the boot partition
So what should I do now ? Should I change fstab and move some files to the boot partition ? Id rather not move the entire Ubuntu partition to the front.
Q1) I was wondering if it is possible to Dual boot Ubuntu with Windows XP on a 1TB RAID-0 setup ?
Q2) Also, is it possible to create a SWAP partition (for Ubuntu) on a NON RAID-0 HDD ?
Q3) Lastly... I read GRUB2 is the default boot manager... should I use that, or GRUB / Lio ?
I have a total of 3 HDDs on this system: -- 2x 500GB WDD HDDs (non-advanced format) ... RAID-0 setup -- 1x 320GB WDD HDD (non RAID setup) (The non RAID HDD is intended to be a SWAP drive for both XP and Ubuntu = 2 partitions)
I plan on making multiple partitions... and reserve partition space for Ubuntu (of course).
I have the latest version of the LiveCD created already.
Q4) Do I need the Alternate CD for this setup?
I plan on installing XP before Ubuntu.
This is my 1st time dual booting XP with Ubuntu.
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Q5) Anything else I should be aware of (possible issues during install)?
Q6) Lastly... is there anything like the AHCI (advanced host controller interface) like in Windows for Ubuntu?
(Since I need a special floppy during Windows Install...) I want to be able to use the Advanced Queuing capabilities of my SATA drives in Ubuntu.
I am about to get a new laptop here soon and I was planning a dual boot like I have on my current laptop (Win7 and Ubuntu), but I have something special in mind. I looked around the forum to see if there was anything like what I had or if it was even possible but I didn't see anything quite like this.I was wondering if this was even possible, and if so, would anyone be able to tell me what filesystem I should use for my windows swap partition?
One of my disks in my computer crashed, it was the one containing /boot and some data partitions. The other system and /home partitions were on a second disk, which is ok.
I was wondering, can I create a new /boot partition, and keep on using the rest of the system? Can I somehow do it with a chroot from a live/installer disk, run grub, and use my system again? I have another disk which I can put in the system, but there is even an unused partition on the disk which is ok (but it is rather big for /boot).
Currently my system runs on two disks, sda 30GB and sdc 1GB. sdb is my data disk. I have set the partitions as sda1 /boot, sda2 /(root) and sdc1 /(swap).
Thinking that sdc was udma33 i used the disk for a swap area. Later i found out that it is pio4 and i want to relocate my swap area to sda.
Using GParted Live i am planning to create a swap partition to sda. Will fixing the entry in fstab be enough to correct this or do i need to do something more?
I could also use some advice on which live debian image i can install in sdc, to use for rescuing purposes. The capacity of the disk is 1080MB.
As a side note, the images i find for usd-hdd are direct download. Are there any torrent files for these?
So I cant seem to be able to install fedora 15. I think it is the disk. I have windows 7 already installed (and would like to keep it) It was installed on the end of the hard drive leaving a 100 GB chunk in the center of the drive open and unformatted (this may be the problem). Anyway I used the live cd and tried to format the unformatted partition to exf but it gives me this error
Code: Error creating partition: helper exited with exit code 1: In part_add_partition: device_file=/dev/sda, start=105906176, size=104752742400, type=EBD0A0A2-B9E5-4433-87C0-68B6B72699C7 Entering MS-DOS parser (offset=0, size=500107862016) MSDOS_MAGIC found found partition type 0xee => protective MBR for GPT Exiting MS-DOS parser Entering EFI GPT parser GPT magic found partition_entry_lba=2 num_entries=128 size_of_entry=128 Leaving EFI GPT parser EFI GPT partition table detected containing partition table scheme = 3 got it got disk new partition added partition start=105905664 size=512 committed to disk Error doing BLKPG ioctl with BLKPG_ADD_PARTITION for partition 2 of size 105905664 at offset 512 on /dev/sda: Device or resource busy
Do I have to reinstall windows for this to work or is there something I can try to do.
using onboard windows disk management i have made 75gb unallocated to add to the aforementioned ntfs data partition. but, after resizing extended partition, will i need to fix grub even though i will be adding the unallocated space to a storage partition and not the ubuntu boot partition?
I'm installing a new SSD this upcoming weekend. My thought was to go easy on it so it lasts longer by putting my swap files on a mechanical drive instead of the SSD. I don't - however - want to waste space for swap files. It would be nice if I could use the same 6GB FAT32 partition for swap files for both Windows 7 and Ubuntu. Is this possible? It might not even be necessary though, I have enough RAM that I rarely use the swap file at all (I've even considered going without swap all together), so it probably won't pose a huge load to the drive.
I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed. When I run Ubuntu 10.04 LiveCD and I start GParted I see that there is a "key" on my swap partition marking it as locked I guess. When I right click, I cannot select "Delete" option. What does this mean? What if I want to rearange my partitions sizes including swap partition for whatever reason?
I'm using ubuntu 10.04 and it seems that I forgot to set up a swap partition when I installed my system. So, I can't install hibernate, and I don't think I have any virtual memory any more.
I know that I can always set up a swap file to play the same role, but since swap file is not contiguously stored on hard disk, the performance is expected to be worse than a swap partition.
So, how can I add a swap partition and make my system boot with it every time from now on? I have unused space on my hard disk, and re-installation is NOT an option.
I am using a Dell Inspiron 580 that I recently recieved as a gift. I wouldn't normally purchase a Dell, but I have no money and it my old computer was WAY past it's prime. After going through a miniature nightmare I now wonder how to create swap space for my ubuntu installation. I am running 10.04, 64 bit. I am having no problems, but I have no swap space. My computer is a new -Intel i3- with 6GB of ram; so I assumed I could worry about getting it installed, then set a swap file later. As I said, it runs well, but i don't feel comfortable with ZERO swap space.
When I installed Ubuntu I already had a problem because Dell had included 2 special partitions that are diagnostic and recovery. This didn't surprise me, but I want to make my system backup less than 100GB, so I shrank the "c:" partition to 100Gb and made the free space "storage":NTFS partition. After backing everything up (before messing with the partitions), I installed Ubuntu. Since I had created the backup that Dell asked me to (the very first time I turned the PC on) as well as my own system image I wasn't concerned.
Using GParted Boot disk I deleted the Dell "Recovery" partition and marked the "C:" drive (COS)) as active. I used a Windows 7 install disk to "repair" the bootmgr problem. Had to run "repair" twice, but it worked.
My question now is: why didn't Ubuntu installation say anything about a swap partition until I had already set up my partitions? I could easily give up a gig or two for swap space but I cannot make a swap partition unless I delete the Dell diagnostic partition (NOT the "recovery" partition; the other hidden one). I don't mind deleting the "recovery" partition because it is backed up, but I would prefer not to delete the "diagnostic/utility" partition, just in case. The 40MB is crap anyway.
It hadn't occurred to me that I would have trouble making swap space. I am used to windows (I am dual booting with GRUB BTW, if that matters) and the swap FILE doesn't need it's own partition. I understand why a separate partition would be better, but unless I can somehow create a logical/extended partition for swap, I need to know what else I can do.
I believe Ubuntu is a better system for many reasons, but little things like this do puzzle me. I am no engineer, or software designer, but I don't understand why I wasn't given an option, such as: You cannot make another primary partition; would you like to use a virtual disk/file as your swap space?"
When I do a "clean" install of Ubuntu 9.10, Step 5 of 7 is when you choose how to partition your hard drive. My Acer Aspire Desktop has 8GB of RAM and a single 160GB SATA hard drive. If I choose to let Ubuntu do the partitioning, only three partitions are created and one of them IS a Swap partition. However, if I choose the second option to manually create my own partition tables, there is NO Swap option listed in the drop-down list of partitions to create!! Why in the world not, considering the importance of this partition and the fact that the first option DOES automatically create it? A second related (I think) is about the Live System Rescue CD and GParted 4.9. When do you use either of these utilities? After all, GParted is included System Rescue CD.
So, if I want and choose to do a manual/advanced partitioning of my hdd, the only time I can see using either utility is after the complete installation of the Ubuntu distro. Yet, choosing to manually partition my hard drive always results in an error or warning message that I haven't created a Swap partition before proceeding to Step 6 of the installation. Well, of course not since the choice isn't even possible. Good grief, what am I supposed to do when I arrive at the step where I am supposed to choose and then create the partitions for my hdd? Choose the first option, which I don't think is wise/good at all, especially with security in mind. Or choose the second option of using a program like GParted at all? It is hard enough for me to choose a partitioning scheme at all, since opinions on how many partitions are needed and what sizes they should be.
To install ubuntu 10.04, I've tried to create partitions on my hard drive, and an external hard drive. Both have failed. I have apparently exceeded the max number of partitions on my hard drive (came with 4 on it. Recovery, OS, and 2 others I don't want to mess with.), and the external hard drive won't let me shrink the NTFS volume to create space for a new partition. Can I get steps to create a new partition, preferably on the external drive (it has more space). My computer is a dell inspiron 1525 with a 225 Gb hard drive, And my external drive is a windows system Seagate 1 Tb Hard drive (I've checked, external drive works with ubuntu).
After some years using OS X, I'm returning on Debian on my Macbook Pro in single boot.
I've bought a Samsung SSD (850 EVO 500Go) in order to replace the slow built-in HDD.
But I've earned about the need of repartition of writing operation on that kind of drives, and I'm concerned about swap partition.
I need swap (especially for Darktable, browsers and maybe Steam games), but I wonder if the usual swap partition (even with discard mount option) is really recommandable for SSD drives.
Actually, on Debian wiki and others, the usual recommandation is "if you have enough RAM, don't use swap or minimise swapiness to 1", but using of swap file is not mentioned.
Indeed, if I have only one "big" partition on the SSD drive and TRIM activated, the garbage collector (low level) built in chipet's SSD will optimize SSD life, but I don't know how the low level garbage collection works with multiple partition.
So there is my questions :
- Will SSD garbage collection will preserve the disc use even if I have a 2GB swap partition ? - Will I'd use a swap file instead of swap partition (I don't really need to hibernate) ?
my friend was installing ubuntu when he while editing the table from the installation menu, chose to shrink the partition and use it as swap, he didn't realize he was using the actual partition not the 1 to be created as swap.so he ended up with 160 GB swap and 15 GB NTFS partitions.will deleting the partitions and recreating the NTFS partition again restore his data?
I just installed kernel 2.6.37-rc3-natty in an effort to clear up the audio stuttering problems prevalent in Maverick. It worked, but now my swap partition won't mount on startup and because of this the computer won't hibernate. I'm using a Toshiba NB305-400 netbook w/1GB of ram, 250GB HDD and 1.6 GHz processor.Here's what's in my fstab file:Quote:
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass> proc /proc proc nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0 # / was on /dev/sda1 during installation
i want to create/assign a swap partition so i can hibernate by comp. i've tried the ubuntu guide on creating a swap file but it didnt work, i created a linux-swap partition and used the mkswap command but that didnt work either (maybe it did but i cant hibernate anyway?!) right now my partitions look like this:
i already reserved the space for the partition, from what i have read so far, it has to be FAT32 or NTFS. also my major question is how i would be able to point both OS to save my files to the 3rd partition i am creating for sharing. cos in my experience, windows likes to store files in its home partition without even giving u an option to see other partitions in ur system, ubuntu at leastb allows me see the other partitions on the drive.
I have two 500gb hdd. One of them crashed (the one which i used windows on) and its now getting sent to the warranty people. On my other hdd i do not have any OS installed, it's just one 500gb NTFS partition, i have there just some personal important stuff. I want to install ubuntu 10.10 x64 on it. I understood that when i will do this, from the available free space it will be created a new partition.
I have tryed to get along with linux a few years ago and i failed... Can you tell me if i will be able to delete the partition ubuntu is creating and merge the unpartitioned space back to NTFS without formating the drive? Also how big are the risks of losing my data when i try to install ubuntu and when i will try to go back to one big NTFS?
I want to install from scratch or change a current system, which ever works best to have the following partitions: I have a 160GB HD and want a 50GB root partition 3 GB swap and the rest for home. When i go throught the guided partitioning process the largest i can get is 8GB. The root partition is the bootable partition correct?
The problem is, on a machine, you can only have 4 primary partitions. sda1 and sda2 are my Vista and Recovery partitions respectively, which eliminates two of my primary partitions already. I myself have never used logical partitions, and was wondering if any of the partitions the Beginner's Guide recommends (/, swap, /var, and /home) could be made logical, and if I even need a swap partition.
1. Pentium 4 with 1.8 gh 2. 512 ram 3. 15 gb hard disk. installation specially regarding partition option (eg.. how much alloted should be for swap/ root/home etc)
