Debian Multimedia :: An Introduction To Tiling Window Managers?
Nov 1, 2010
I'm deciding to go with a window manager instead of a desktop environment. I want to go simple and lightweight, and I know a lot of you run window managers such as openbox, fluxbox, and some tiling ones like xmonad, awesome and dwm. I want to give xmonad a try. For those of you who run tiling window managers, how do you know what is running in the background? There is no system tray in a screenshot such as this: [URL]. I'll be playing around with xmobar because that seems to be a popular panel with xmonad, and that's what's in that screenshot.
Also, how do you run your programs? You don't run it always from the command line, do you? When I want to run Chromium, I have to start up a terminal and load it that way, having the terminal and the browser open when using the browser. I know other window managers like openbox provide a right click menu, but xmonad doesn't (or does it?). I know a lot of people who use tiling window managers also use a lot of console apps, and I like that feel, but I don't think I'd want text for everything, such as the web.
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Jan 23, 2011
Does anybody here has made experiences with tiling-WMs ?
- Are there any in our repos, and there?
- Do they run under the normal DE,or only solo?
- Can I use all programs with them?
Actually,I am using openSuse 11.3 with KDE 4.4.
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Mar 17, 2010
I've been playing around with two tiling window managers, scrotwm, and xmonad. I like xmonad better, but that's not the point. The point is that they both produce these strange black bars at the bottom when a terminal window is opened. Note that this does not happen in fluxbox/openbox, my other wm.
Its hard to explain, so please see the screenshots: [URL]
Note the black bar, or just dead at space the bottom of the the terminal windows. In the third image, the prompt is at the "bottom" of the window, or what should be. Again, this only happens in scrotwm and xmondad, no other wm's I've tested.
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Jun 2, 2011
Whenever I have to use a computer that doesn't do tiling. Manually moving and resizing windows?
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Jun 21, 2011
I'm looking for a feature in Gnome Shell that would allow me to tile all of the open windows on a desktop. Something akin to Fluxbox's ArrangeWindows keyboard shortcut. I know you can tile two windows side by side, but I would need something capable of tiling ALL of them. Does something like this exist, or would I need to look into writing a Gnome Shell extension?
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Dec 6, 2010
I know that it is possible to run awesome window manager in gnome but is it possible to do this in LXDE? Is there anyway to use any tiling window manager in LXDE (as is possible in gnome)?
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Sep 10, 2011
I already have a pretty comfy setup, with Openbox over LXDE, but I'm curious about something: Even though I started out with LXDE, I removed the lxpanel and replaced it with Tint2, then I removed the LXDE right-click menu and replaced it with the Openbox menu. Finally, I replaced PCmanfm with Thunar, and run my wallpaper on Nitrogen. In fact, the only thing that says "LXDE" anymore is the logout menu, and if I could replace that with something sleeker that fit my theme, i would.
Question: Would it have made more sense to simply not install LXDE at all? I've heard of people who say they just run Openbox. Do they mean they have to run it on top of something like LXDE, or do they just have Openbox and nothing else? It sounds like that's what I could have done here and had virtually the same thing. Am I right?
Also, I've heard a lot about FVWM, and I'm curious as to whether it's that much better than what I have now. Is there a way to "try it out?" I don't want to replace a thing that I have here now, at least until I decided I liked FVWM better (which I don't know I will). There's very little i don't like about Openbox (absence of a volume control icon in the taskbar, for one), but I'm always into tinkering, and I like the idea of switching themes. By that I mean switching wallpaper, icon themes, window themes, conky configs, everything, all with a keystroke. I've done it with scripts in the past, but that's "doing it the hard way," and I've been on the hunt for a desktop manager that has this feature.
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Nov 25, 2010
I just installed Enlightenment from slackbuilds, but I'm not sure how to change over to it. Not trying to permanently switch to E, just wanting to play with it some, and use it when I need to free up resources from KDE4. How can I switch between the two?
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May 10, 2011
I'm trying to figure out how to add enlightenment to my window manager list in kdm.
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May 7, 2011
I'm having trouble starting non-kde window managers. From the start-up command line, I get an error message about the XServer when typing "fluxbox" in as a command. However, when I put fluxbox in as a command in konsole, it gives an error message (which makes sense because I was using kde). I also can't start xfce as it is not a recognized command.
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Nov 3, 2010
I would like to try KDE and XFCE alongside the Gnome desktop but I cannot seem to find an easy way to simply install them. Add/Remove Software is completely useless with this.
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Mar 20, 2011
I've installed Openbox from the repo and when I log out of gnome and go to log into openbox, GDM restarts. It does this with IceWM too, and even TWM. Am I missing something? A config file that needs modified?
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Jul 12, 2010
slash page comes up fine. KDM greeting page and username selector come up. I can choose a session.
If I choose anything other than 'failsafe' (KDE failsafe, KDE, TWM, IceWM, etc), it accepts my password and then just sits there
If I login via failsafe, then type 'startkde', KDE starts up fine and I get all my windows, virtual desktops, etc.
I also just noticed these installed as well:
Nothing in .xsession-errors
The only thing I could find in /var/log/messages that looked close was this:
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Aug 8, 2010
I'm in Gnome but if I logout I can get to a menu where I can choose KDE as well as other window managers. The problem is I have a program that's running inside Gnome and I don't want to stop it. Is there some way I can get into KDE without having to stop this program?
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Dec 29, 2010
As the title says I am looking for window managers that support having a workspace per screen. Now I'm not talking xrandr, twinview, xinerma or anything. I don't think this feature is possible with metacity. Most tiling window managers are like this and I love it, it makes things so much more efficient.
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Feb 8, 2011
I tried Docky and then uninstalled it. Then got a notification on a missing library item asking if I wanted to delete association. Now I have no open program tabs on my panel. So how do I get them back? And are there other program window management programs that might be of interest? If it matters, I'm using Ubuntu Studio.
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Sep 9, 2010
I tried to follow some internet instructions on how to disable the wheel click (that paste the clipboard contents) but I still can't make it work. I tried to add a button mapping to X11 conf file:
Option "ButtonMapping" "1 1 3 4 5"
I also tried by creating a hal policy:
Code:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
<deviceinfo version="0.2"> <device>
<match key="info.capabilities" contains="input.mouse">
<match key="/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer:system.kernel.name" string="Linux">
<merge key="input.x11_options.ButtonMapping" type="string">1 2 3 4 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0</merge>
</match> </match> </device> </deviceinfo>
But nothing seems to disable the wheel click.
I am using Xfce 4.6.1 with Slackware 13.0. My Mouse is a Microsoft. IntelliMouse USB PS/2 compatible.
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Apr 26, 2010
I've tried KDE, XFCE & fluxbox (this latter of which I think I prefer). They all work but they all have similar streaks & distortions on the GUI. Is this certainly a driver issue?
Also, after using them for a while they freeze.
In an earlier thread dc_eros suggested installing the latest openchrome, which fixed a similar problem he had with his first slack13.
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Jun 9, 2010
I often swapped window managers between fluxbox kde and gnome back when I ran ubuntu to suit my needs. When I installed slackware, I picked KDE because of the convenient app suite. I don't wish to uninstall kde but I'd like to be able to pick which environment I use when I swap to a GUI. Something like a flag, startx --fluxbox.
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May 19, 2010
I have followed to the letter the wiki HowTo on setting up VNC and it works (sort of). I get a VNC session (doesn't matter whether I connect locally, over ssh, or using a vnc client), but all I get is the dreaded black screen with an xterm top left. If I then execute 'startkde' from within the xterm I get my normal desktop up. What I am however getting, is a new desktop session. And this happens each time I start a vnc session. I.e. I end up with a LOT of user sessions for my username. (As shown up by a 'users' cmd.) Consequently, each new time I start a vnc session, I get <x> (representing the previous nr of vnc logins) number of xterm windows + 1 appearing. I never get the logged on session.
However I've also noticed my .xsession-errors file filling up. I've googled around enough to get the impression that the reason I'm not getting the logged-on session up in vnc is due to a missing window manager. but haven't hit on the right google combo to fix the issue. I can believe there being a missing window manager due the following related story;About a year ago, I went to switch from KDE to Gnome. Decided I didn't want to and then set out to switch back to KDE. Each time I installed/uninstalled via the GUI "Add/Remove Software". Eventually I got back to KDE and it appeared to work since, so I left well enough alone.t is only now attempting to set up VNC, I have come across all these issues. I firmly believe VNC will work as expected if I can resove the apparent missing window manage issue.xstartup
#!/bin/sh
# Ensures an xterm is always available
( while true ; do xterm ; done ) &
[code]....
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Oct 31, 2010
I dislike dependency ridden applications or applications that do something useful designed for a specific window manager. So I am starting a thread specifically for requests for applications in Gnome and KDE that aren't immediately available in XFCE, Fluxbox,Blackbox, IceWM, LXDE etc. For instance, I am personally creating a graphical sudo application for the lesser window managers. What other applications would you like to see? this is NOT a request for applications for Linux is general, ONLY ones already available in Linux.
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Feb 28, 2011
just installed dwm i'm getting border gaps while in monocle view and tiling mode.i set border to 0 in my config.h file which fixed the problem, but after rebooting/suspend? the problem appeared again.
heres a pic: ok so maybe it was a bad idea to use black, but you can see part of the wallpaper on the bottom (the blue/purple line).
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Jun 27, 2011
I had debian squeeze on my personal computer at home, 3 days ago i've upgraded it to the debian testing. last day i've installed virtualbox which i've gotten from virtualbox.org . today non of package managers work. an example of installing sumthin new with apt:
root@fairyland:/home/timmy# apt-get install clamav
Reading package lists... Done
Segmentation faulty tree... 50%
root@fairyland:/home/timmy#
also synaptic can't be started. i've run apt-get clean and removed /var/lib/apt/list i also tried apt-get update but these don't work sum useful info:
root@fairyland:/home/timmy# tail -n 40 /var/log/dpkg.log
2011-06-26 11:58:07 status half-installed virtualbox-ose 3.2.12-dfsg-1
2011-06-26 11:58:07 status config-files virtualbox-ose 3.2.12-dfsg-1
[code]....
just don't tell me i've to refresh its base, shit i hate to do this, i'd never done that about debian, this is one of the reasons i luv debian.
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May 8, 2015
I am using empathy, for facebook chat desktop pop-up notifications. The problem is, when i close the chat i cannot re opened it from the low bar like the previous version of gnome because when i put the mouse pointer down, off the screen the low bar does not appear.
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Feb 28, 2016
When I open Iceweasel, terminal eg, the mouse grabs the new windows in the middle so I can move it and i have to click so it releases It, but I do not want that.Is there any way to disable it?I am using Cinnamon if it matters.
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Jul 26, 2010
I would like to change the style of window but not "look".do I need install : GTK + ??
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May 4, 2011
I can't move/resize/decorate/restore the vlc window. It takes up the entire screen (even though it is not in full screen mode) on one of my monitors. I'm using Openbox. This doesn't happen with any other type of window.[URL]..
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May 22, 2010
xdm which refuses to load a window manager. I run Debian squeeze. xdm tries to execute /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession, which is actually an empty file, and fails with the error 'too many open files'. Afterwards xdm terminates the session and executes Xreset. Here the entries from the log:
Sat May 22 11:27:19 2010 xdm info (pid 2246): sourcing /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup
Sat May 22 11:27:23 2010 xdm info (pid 2246): sourcing /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup
Sat May 22 11:27:23 2010 xdm info (pid 2275): executing session /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession
[code]....
I was unable to find anything valuable concerning this problem. This is kind of annoying because I always have to switch to a console, stop X and startx X manually using startx. Then everything works out just fine. Unfortunately I am not yet that familiar with the setup process of X.
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Jun 9, 2010
I want to known how can I change the windows appareance and not the style.When I execute for exemple a prgram like thunar or iceweasel ... the button the window background are with a depth I want to try to window without a depth like this
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and not like this
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I download a lot theme so when I copy this theme in the syle repertory I change it in the open menu and only the titlebar change but not the button, scroll bar ...how do I do to change them ?
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Jan 19, 2011
Previous X was 1.4.2. After aptitude upgraded X Window to 1.7.7, startx crashed complaining: XKB could not find /usr/share/../rules/evdev file. There is no evdev file.
How do I modify xorg.conf to work with evdev? I spent few hours to figure out evdev. It seems it's new style of managing input devices in X Window. The information isn't friendly to migrate from old to this.
When I put Option "AutoAddDevices" "off" in ServerLayout section, it literally froze X Window. X started without mouse/keyboard control. I had to turn off power switch. Now, I can't use X at all unless I move back to 1.4.2.
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