Debian Hardware :: When Plug In Charger OS Reports Battery As Empty
Feb 4, 2016
I am having a rather odd issue, this week I installed Debian latest on to an old Acer Aspire 3810TZ; everything runs smoothly enough and I spent a good number of hours using the laptop on battery (about two or three, the battery is checked and in good enough condition given its age) then as the desktop widget reported the battery as being 22% or so full I decided to plug in the charger at which point the os reported the battery as being 0% and issued an immediate hibernation.
I have done a fair bit of searching for others whom have had the same problem, as I am sure its not a new one. But the majority of what I have read revolves around batteries not charging and mine certainly does, I just have to have the laptop switched off while I do so (unless its booted into windows, in which case its fine.)
Below is the output of acpi and upower.
Code: Select allsimon@DLC:~$ acpi -b
Battery 0: Discharging, 96%, 05:47:01 remaining
simon@DLC:~$ upower -d
Device: /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/line_power_ADP1
native-path: ADP1
power supply: yes
[Code] ....
I am using the Cinnamon desktop environment ...
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