Ubuntu :: Should Unity/Compiz Be Removed If Using Gnome 3 In Natty
Apr 22, 2011
I've played around with both Unity and Gnome 3 and I love them both. I've decided for now I'm using Unity on my laptop but I was thinking I'll use Gnome 3 on my desktop for particular reasons (I may switch to Unity if I find I'd like it better). My question is, if I install Gnome 3 via the ppa, wouldn't compiz no longer be supported with Gnome 3? Matter of fact I probably wouldn't use anything from compiz even if it could. Hence would it be safe to remove unity and all of compiz or do things in Ubuntu still depend on them? I also wouldn't want them still running in the background or anything. Perhaps now that Ubuntu decided to go the Unity way, that they should support a Gnome-shell build? Like Kubuntu/Xubuntu, even though regular Ubuntu still uses Gnome.
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Apr 28, 2011
After rebooting, the first message i've been shown was: "Your hardware doesn't support Unity". First strange thing: Unity was working perfectly on all the Beta live versions I've tried before the upgrade.
Well, not a big problem, I didn't really like Unity. Let's stay with Gnome + Compiz, I said.. but Compiz effects don't work anymore. When I try to do System --> Preferences --> Appearance, the "effects" tab doesn't show anymore. The file named "screenshot1.png" will show you this problem, even if it's in Italian: there are only the Theme (tema), Background (sfondo) and Fonts (Tipo di carattere) tabs. Also look to the strange, fuzzy right corner of the themes previews. This didn't happen on 10.10. 3d rendering should be working, since I get
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glxinfo | grep rendering
direct rendering: Yes
But nothing works.
System->Administration->Hardware is empty, but it has always been empty, even on 10.10 (but Compiz effects were working). When I try to set Compiz as windows manager in Compiz Fusion Icon, sometimes the title of the windows disappear, along with the minimize, maximize and close buttons. Do you think there's something I can do to fix all these things?
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May 3, 2011
I've just installed Ubuntu 11.04 on my netbook. Having had a bit of a play with Unity I found it not to my taste, so I've switched to "Ubuntu Classic" - Gnome without Unity - on the login screen. For a while now I've organised my work using the Workspace Switcher Gnome applet. I use five workspaces, each named to identify the type of stuff that goes on in it.
11.04 comes with Workspace Switcher version 2.32.1 - right clicking it and clicking on Preferences gives a stripped down preferences dialogue, no longer including fields allowing the user to define workspace names. Ubuntu 10.04, for example, uses Workspace Switcher 2.30.2 which did allow for workspace names to be defined via the Workspace Switcher Preferences dialogue. I'd really like to be able to define workspace names and have them show in the Workspace Switcher in the panel.
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Jun 21, 2011
1)If I installed the Alpha-1 11.10, is it easy to upgrade to newer versions later on until the Final Release?
2) How to make the desktop taskbar appear in ubuntu natty of Unity desktop as previous Gnome? Possible or not?
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May 13, 2011
In previous versions, there was an 'advanced' button where you could select NOT to install grub. I can't find that in the latest Natty release iso's. Is it no longer an option? And if not, WHY? I find myself reloading Natty quite often on a test partition to play with various parameters in my attempt to get it working as needed. But I'd really prefer to have the option to no reload grub.
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Mar 4, 2011
I have read about it, looked at screen shots of it but I don't think Unity runs on a virtual machine yet so I have not laid hands on it. Still it looks to me like a remake of the old Windows 3.x "program groups" concept (at least it was called something like that back before the fall of the Roman empire). Looks like a waste of space to me to have all the program and file icons in a box instead of tucked out of the way along a panel.
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Mar 22, 2011
I read that Natty will use Unity as the preferred desktop environment, together with Compiz. I found that on my system Compiz - while very neat - will cause instability so I'd rather not use it. How would the desktop stack look for a user not wanting to run Compiz under Natty? Can I use Mutter with Unity? Or maybe I should replace Unity with Gnome? Will my Ubuntu like this (replacing Unity with Gnome)? Will Ubuntu make it easy for users to dump Compiz if they want to do so?
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May 1, 2011
I feel these pictures illustrate an issue that should to be addressed: What appears to be happening is that when I try to switch desktops it will select the window I have open and try to move it at the same time. As you can see from the images, as soon as I select a viewpoint, compiz's wobbly windows stay in their warped positions while the application is still completely operational. It's quite funny actually, but is also a problem. I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 with Unity and Compiz's wobbly windows enabled. I should note that my Unity Panel on the left side of the screen often freezes and will not auto-hide as I have set it to do, which is an unrelated issue, I believe.
I guess I'm wondering if this is some sort of bug that should be posted and where to post it, whether this is a Unity or Compiz issue.
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Apr 26, 2011
today i upgraded to natty and it went well (except for mistake of not removing ati driver before upgrading what caused 2 hours of me fixing..).. now i have weird problem - there no unity. my desktop looks the same as before - docky and 1 gnome panel, no matter what session i choose (unity or classic).. this is good news for unity haters, but i did upgrade because i wanted unity.i guess i have to run something to set defaults on system...
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Apr 29, 2011
I've just installed Natty Narwhal onto my laptop, but I cannot find Unity 3D, only 2D. I've installed the propriety NVIDIA drivers, but there still is no 3D option.I've also seen no one who likes Unity, but I do.
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May 4, 2011
I am dual booting natty and linux mint debian edition. I have noticed in LMDE compiz is far, far, far, far smoother. In natty scrolling, resizing, and animations are all noticeably laggier. In LMDE I can use the normal resize with no problem, in natty its so laggy I need to use rectangle or stretch. Animations are also glitchy (fade animations have white flicker) In lmde there are no visual hiccups.
I am using the same driver and kernel in LMDE, the major difference is LMDE has a much older compiz (0.8.4, before the compiz++ rewrite I believe.) Does anyone know why the newer compiz in natty is so much slower? Does anyone else expereince this? my video card is an hd2600 using the cat 11.4 driver, but I experience these same issues with the oss driver.
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Apr 29, 2011
I using a computer with a Nvidia geforce 4 and I use nouveau 3D, installed via jockey-gtk. Compiz work perfectly, but unity still don't work!
This is my terminal output:
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Apr 24, 2011
After upgrading to Natty, I noticed that the Wallpaper plugin from Compiz was gone (I've been using KDE for about 1 1/2 years, so I may just be out of the GNOME loop). Is there any way to get multiple wallpapers in Compiz anymore? I'm running Compiz 0.9.4
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May 1, 2011
I just upgraded to Natty Narwhal. When I first logged in a pop-up dialogue appeared saying that my computer did not fulfil the hardware requirements to run Unity. That cannot be possible this is the output of the lscpu command:
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Architecture: i686
CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit
CPU(s): 2
Thread(s) per core: 2
Core(s) per socket: 1
CPU socket(s): 1
Vendor ID: GenuineIntel
CPU family: 15
Model: 3
Stepping: 4
CPU MHz: 2999.900
L1d cache: 16K
L2 cache: 1024K
This is is the output of the free command:
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total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 1251612 916332 335280 0 74220 383576
-/+ buffers/cache: 458536 793076
Swap: 860156 0 860156
Summarized that is:
Pentium 4 3GHz core running two threads
1.2GB of ram
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May 1, 2011
I just upgraded to Natty on my Dell 10mini. It runs great but I was wondering what the command-line input for locking the screen. I'm trying to bind a command to a key that will lock my screen and suspend my session all at once, but all I can find is the command for suspend. gnome-screensaver-command --lock doesnt seem to work on unity (obviously). Is there a variation of it that I can use?
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May 19, 2011
I'm trying to put in an extra command on my skype.desktop launcher to make my webcam work properly, however whenever I add the ff. to the Exec line:
Quote: Exec=export LIBV4LCONTROL_FLAGS=3 && LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib32/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype the skype launcher doesnt work. However, it works fine when I try to run the same command on the terminal.
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May 25, 2011
I just insatlled Ubuntu 11.04 64 bits and I've got one big problem. In fact, I tried to install Emerald and it crashed immediatly. Since that I can not have any effects on my computer. I tried
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compiz --replace
but nothing happened really. I just have a lot of errors I don't understand.
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Backend : gconf
Integration : true
[Code].....
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May 10, 2011
How can I get the scale plugin to show windows from all workspaces like I could before with 10.04 and Gnome?With Unity the scale plugin only "scales" windows that are on the current desktop/workspace.
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Jun 6, 2011
I have recently purchased an ASUS Eee PC (netbook) model 1215T MU10. It has the AMD Athlon II Neo K125 (1.70GHz) processor and a AMD 'nile' platform with an integrated AMD Mobility Radeon HD 4250 graphics card. It has 2 gigs of DDR3 ram. I received the netbook with no OS and installed Ubuntu 11.04 Natty as its only OS. How to make this OS as functional as possible on the computer which it is installed. I have tried to do this myself and noticed I could not access certain plug-ins such as Unity and Compiz ccss. I fiddled with things and eventually ended up having to do a fresh install of the OS and coming to the realization that I have not a clue what I am doing. I have seen video reviews of the unity interface and would absolutely LOVE to have some of the cool things it can do happening on my display.
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Jun 28, 2011
I messed up my desktop by playing with settings in compiz while i was in unity desktop. The problem happened when i was checking and unchecking features for the cube function. After messing with those i have no menu and no sidebar cant access anything with keyboard shortcuts cant bring up a terminal. The only thing that exists are a few shortcuts to files on desktop. Running 11.04. BTW classic and all others work fine.
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Aug 4, 2011
I'll come out and say I actually quite like unity, but it still needs a whole load of development. So I'm just wondering if anyone else knows how or why you can't bind Compiz keyboard shortcuts wile running unity. I'm trying to bind a shortcut (any) to Initiate a Window Picker for Window Group. If Unity is moving toward the Mac way of treating groups of windows that belong to the same program as an application it needs to have more options to manage those windows, being able to at least expose those windows would be a start. However I cant seem to put a keyboard binding for this function. I've tried <super>+<shift>+W and on a hunch that it was unity's Super that was messing it up <control>+<alt>+ and <super>+ and <alt>+W and <alt>+<shift>+W.
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Apr 15, 2011
X is working, I get a desktop, all updates are current, just no Unity menus/window/widgets/whatever, blank desktop with single mapped network folder and no working keyboard shortcuts after initial login. I upgraded on Alpha 2 and it ate my desktop, never has given it back for 3 months. I assumed eventually the upgrades would fix it. Looked into ditching Unity and doing GDM, but thought I'd wait it out, ran dpkg-reconfigure unity and it did nothing, can't find any relevant errors in the logs, where should I be looking and/or what should I be doing? Running lots of servers on this box and have dual-boot, otherwise I'd probably torch it and start over.
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Apr 28, 2011
If I just upgrade my 10.10 to 11.04, will it replace gnome with unity? I tried unity before and it is not satifying because it is not customizable, I feel I have less options and less power over what my interface looks like and how it behaves. Same case with gnome3.I'm wondering if when I upgrade to Naughty will I have to go through a lot of messing around with packages and configuration files to get back to gnome2 ? Do we have an option when we upgrade to choose between Unity, Gnome2 and Gnome3?
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May 1, 2011
I was running Ubuntu 10.4 netbook version (with Gnome) on my Dell Inspiron 910 and yesterday it told me there was an upgrade available, to Natty. I followed the links, did the download, and left it to install overnight. When I got up today, it said it had a problem, because an application was using a file it needed. I thought I had closed everything before I started the process. I acknowledged the message, and proceeded to restart.
I ended up with the standard 10.4 Ubuntu screen, but with no tool bars, status bars, or anything. Just the wallpaper. Keyring login came up and I signed in, wireless said it was connected. So it looks like things are working, just no UI as such. Poked all the screen edges with the mouse, but nothing popped out.
Ctrl><Alt><Del> brought up the logout screen, and if I clicked on Help, I could ultimately get Firefox to run. (Note: the Help screen talks about Gnome, but it had the new popout scroll bars).
If I hold down <Shift> on startup, I get the GRUB menu. I am running linux generic 2.6.38-8 , but I am not sure where to go from there. Running dpkg didn't help.
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May 12, 2011
I've just upgraded my Ubuntu version a week ago and got a problem that the Unity UI won't running after upgrade. My laptop is Dell Inspiron 14R which is i think is more than capable for running Unity 3D. When I rebooted after upgrade there was just a blank wallpaper screen, without Unity interface at all.
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Jun 23, 2011
after a lot of testing and tweaking done in natty 64 bit while running as live usb, i decided to install it clean on my laptop. everything is working fine (courtesy the time i spent to get things work in live usb)
i installed gnome shell too and now have an option of unity / gnome shell and classic.
today being the 2nd day, i got the following problems.
a) the global menu that was being displayed in unity is not working. its funny to note that firefox global menu is working but not for nautilus or any other apps.
b) conky is displayed in unity and classic desktop but not in gnome-shell. i also followed this link to get it working in start up = > [URL]
still not working. when i issue the top command, i can see that conky is listed in the processes but not displayed..
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May 10, 2011
I am having some trouble using the compiz config settings on the new "Natty Narwhal" 11.04. On 10.4, it worked seamlessly; the 3D desktop cube worked, 3D windows worked, and rotating desktop cube also worked. On Natty Narwhal, nothing works-- at all. It may seem kind of childish for me to download compiz config just for the cube, but the fact that compiz config alone isn't even working is kind of making me nervous. Though, it would be great if someone could help me with the cube.
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Jun 8, 2011
After upgrading to Natty from the previous version and switching to Ubuntu Classic my compiz settings were completely wiped out. No problem, I just re-entered them. The problem is that I don't get any menu bar on my windows. It also happens once in a while in Metacity but using the compiz fusion icon utility to reload the window manager will usually fix the issue. I have had this problem intermittently in the past but have always been able to resolve it by reloading the window manager. Now when I'm using compiz I ALWAYS have this issue and it makes compiz unusable. Compiz is not just eye-candy for me, it has become integral to the way I use my computer. If anyone has any ideas I'm all ears.
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Apr 29, 2011
I just upgraded and hated the left side vertical menu, it's just not my thing.I decided (regrettably) to deselect the Unity plug-in from with the Compiz Settings UI thinking it might get rid of it. It but, but unfortunately it rendered the desktop completely unusable and alll I have now is literally a desktop with no menu's or toolbars of any kind.Although I can login using the 'Classic' option I really think I should fix what I have broken (before reverting to 10.10).Is there any way to re-enable the Unity plugin via command line?I tried entering ccsm via terminal but nothing happens. I also tried entering configcompiz-settings-manager but again, a dead end.
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May 14, 2011
I have a rather odd problem. Ubuntu 11.04 came installed with the nvidia 173 drivers, which I replaced with the current ones. Neither loaded Unity, so I downloaded Nvidia's 270.41.06 drivers from their website. Still no unity.
If I run compiz --replace, however, compiz works fine, and Unity loads, albeit extremely buggy, most likely because all of the gnome components are still running (e.g., if I click anywhere on the top panel, it goes away).
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