OpenSUSE Install :: What's The Point Of Installing Obsolete Packages
Jul 2, 2011
I made a network install of a new 11.4 system yesterday. It went all fine, but I was suprised that at the end of the installation some 80 packages required updating.
So what's the point in installing obsolete versions first? A significant amount of time is wasted downloading and installing packages, which will be replaced shortly thereafter. Of course that's the way it works for a media-based installation, because one does not want to create, test and release new installation media everytime a package is updated. But in network installation all it would take is to use the repository with the updated version.
The only argument I could imagine is that an updated package could make the installation fail. Installation with original packages has gonew through some QA. Well yes, of course it's all software, so everything can fail. But when you install updates into your production system there is always the theoretical risk that they contain a fatal bug causing damage. For a new installation the damage would be much smaller, should the installation fail because an untested combination of package version happens not to install cleanly.
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Jun 4, 2010
after aptitude udpate i got:
Current status: 542 updates [+470], 28356 new [+1469].
There are 18 newly obsolete packages: devicekit-disks, gcj-4.3-base, libcelt0, libdirectfb-1.2-0, libgcj9-0, libgcj9-jar,
libgraphviz4, liblzma1, libmagickcore2, libmagickcore2-extra, libmagickwand2,
libmenu-cache0, libntfs-3g54, libx264-79, libxmmsclient5, libxxf86misc1, w32codecs,
xserver-xorg-video-v4l
How would i delete/remove obsolete packages? And why are they obsolete?
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May 1, 2010
I just upgraded to 10.04, and it seems to be working well. At the very end of the process, it asked me if I wanted to delete my obsolete packages, and I chickened out and said "no". Now I have a truckload of taken space on the root drive, and am wondering if there is an easy way to complete this last step of clearing out obsolete packages now that 10.04 has been fully installed?
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Mar 13, 2011
I have a Toshiba TC1000 which is about 8 years old. 256 ram, 1.66 ghz processor, 30 gb hdd, running Win XP sp3. I bought this as an emergency purchase and have had nothing but problems with it and other than throwing it at the wall I thought I might try one last solution - to install Linux. This device has no optical drive but it does have power ISO installed but I don't know where to start with all the choice of Linux, Ubuntu etc. Plus other than the OS will I need any other software? I am a newbie and don't know much about computers so I won't be insulted if you think this is idiotic.
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Aug 31, 2011
I just upgraded from 11.2 to 11.4 and the installation/upgrade worked just perfect. I than followed the instructions in the "New User How To/FAQ", "Multimedia and restricted format" post. I was following the instruction in the 11.4 section. I added the additional repositories as explained. I then was on the section where it talks about going into software management and selecting the "Packman" repository and clicking to "switch systems packages" to the versions in this repository (packman). I than click this link and the "warning" screen appears and I am present with conflict resolution after conflict resolution dialog. It just seems that there are some many conflicts, it just seems wrong and I canceled.
The installation/upgrade appears to have worked just fine. My mail is there, audio and dvd play back worked the first try after the upgrade. I am not clear if this is what I should expect or their is something wrong or if I even need to complete this step for a successfully installation.
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Jun 14, 2010
If I install the factory release now, can I easily convert my system to a normal 11.3 point release later, after 11.3 is out? If so, how would I do it? (11.2 has an issue that affects me. It's fixed in 11.3 already, so I have to use 11.3 if I'm going to use openSUSE.)
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Jun 11, 2011
I have ubuntu jaunty 9.04 installed in my system(thats my only OS.. no dual boot). When I tried to install hplip to enable hp printer driver, I understood that 9.04 is obsolete and no more support for it. I want to upgrade now. Update manager shows '10.04' for uogradation but it seems I cannot jump from 9.04 to 10.04 without getting into 9.10.
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Mar 23, 2010
I would like to install development tools / libs, such as gcc. But I haven't selected them during the opensuse 11.2 x64 installation, and when I use the yast2/software management to install programming packages, there are many items, and I don't know which should/should not be installed. Even when I select all to install, it seems many conflicts reported. So is there any easy way to install the development packages properly, without reinstalling the os?
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in yast> software installation how can i configure it to download all packages first then install them (as ubuntu does) rather than downloading each package and kimmediately installing it.
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Feb 1, 2011
why installing kde 4.6 from factory repos went wrong ? i used zypper dup with oss, non-oss and update repos for 11.3 to reset to default install and boot went ok :
this goes with the following package versions:
$ kded4 --version
Qt�: 4.6.3
KDE�: 4.4.4 (KDE 4.4.4) "release 3"
i'm using this x86 kernel :
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my problem : when i add factory repos (core and extra) for kde install of packages from yast is ok when switching system packages to these. but after reboot i have floating point exceptions and a black screen and can' t boot anymore. the only way out i found so far is to zypper dup to go back to kde 4.4.4
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Jan 9, 2011
Why does YaST close after one installs a package? Is there a way to disable this annoying feature?
System Specifications:
openSUSE 11.3 64-bit(installed from a Live CD)
KDE 4.5(error also occurred in KDE 4.4.4)
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May 10, 2011
while downloading the updates, jersey central power had a power failure thus screwing up my router temporarily and completely screwing up the downloads; now back up and running, the update systems is not saying I need the updates but obviously I do;how do I go back to the point to get the updates?
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Mar 1, 2010
i finally managed to achieve minimal 11.2 system (following tutorial on this forum) but now whenever i try to install additional packages using yast, it automatically selects a whole bunch of unnecessary software. For example, installation of "radeonhd" tries to pull Mozilla Sunbird from repositories.
That's unacceptable behavior and no wonder system gets bloated over time. Is there a way to set yast to pull only crucial dependencies with selected packages (like apt-get's recommended and suggested packages)?
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Mar 18, 2011
I have a very simple question I am creating a new partition for storing files, installers, documents, etc, I am going to make it ext4, now my question is, do I have to specify a mounting point?? I would not like to do that, but if I do not specify a mounting point, will I be able to access that partition? So in what cases you specify mounting point and when you do not specify mounting point?
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Jun 24, 2011
I'm considering making a switch from Ubuntu/Linux Mint to Fedora 15 because I just adore, love, cannot be without Gnome Shell any longer. SELinux - I actually am finding I hate this program as it blocks certain plugins (like Java), some programs I run it blocks functionality, etc. What's the best way to disable it or make it more like Ubuntu where it's pretty much permissive of everything. Common Apps I use - I haven't checked the repos, but at the least I use the following (some I know work, but I can't remember the specific ones I want to know if I need to compile or if it's in the repos)
a - Snes9x
b - PCSX Reloaded
c - KeepNote
d - libdvdcss2 and libdvdread4
e - MP4, MP3, AVI, MPEG, OGG, OGV codecs (I think I've converted any others like WMA and WMV... wait I have a few WMA files, crap)
f - Flash 64-bit - this one I have issues with SELinux wise, (reason for first question)
g - VirtualBox - it runs so much faster under Fedora so I know this one works
h - Sun Java
RPMs - Fedora uses RPMs right? Is there like an DEB Alien to convert DEBs to RPMs? Apache2 - Now maybe I found this as httpd or lightppd or something, but why isn't it listed as Apache2 in the repos? I'm more or less guessing that Fedora is not a "rolling" release, is there a variant or version that is or a repo I can enable? A software center, other than Synaptic; I'm pampered when it comes to Ubuntu Software Center and that, is there anything like that in Fedora that isn't Synaptic? What's the terminal command for installing packages, is it zypper or is that OpenSuSE?
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Aug 17, 2011
I would like to be able to make the Yast package manager stay open after installing or removing packages.
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Mar 17, 2010
A while ago I posted this thread, with no responses:[URL].. I deploy into an environment that for "security" reasons cannot be kept up to date with wherever the ubuntu archive is up to (with awareness that this is avoiding security updates...). It is a sealed system not connected to the internet. I'm working with the 8.04.1 LTS, and my customer is in an 'if it ain't broke don't change it' frame of mind w.r.t. moving to 8.04.4. My main problem comes in two variations: 1. Some packages my runtime system depends on are not distributed on the 8.04.1 DVD, but were available in the full ubuntu archive at the time of the point release (and still are, in an up-to-date form). My concern is that if I take the 8.04.4-ish version of a package it will not work correctly with an otherwise 8.04.1 system. In general I am expecting that it *might*, and the versioned dependencies it has on other packages will be loose enough. 2. Some packages my build system (which produces what I put onto the runtime system) depend on are also not on the DVD. So almost a repeat of 1 above, except that I am generally running afoul of strictly-versioned dependencies (the -dev version of a lib package depends on the matching lib package having exactly the same version). If the non-dev lib package is on the DVD, but is not the same version as the -dev package I have from an archive mirror taken just before the 8.04.1 release, I believe I'm screwed?
So my two questions are: a. Is there such a thing as a copy of the full ubuntu archive taken at the exact time the 8.04.1 LTS was released? I think that would solve most of my problems.
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Sep 12, 2010
I'm running 11.3, 64bit.It downloads everything fine, but not long after it starts installing things, my PC completely freezes. I tried giving it 20 minutes, but it didn't seem to want to come back to me.What does this mean? Is my OpenSUSE broken?
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Mar 14, 2011
I love openSUSE, but I hate its default font rendering. On openSUSE 11.3, I am obtaining good results with the SubpixelHinting - openSUSE Community Wiki together with [url]. However, the previous repo doesn't have packages for 11.4. I know that there are some personal packages in the build service, but soon after the 11.3 release they pulled these personal packages because they might violate a patent. So where is a reliable, easy source for installing the best libraries for smooth fonts with subpixel hinting?
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Apr 8, 2015
I am working on a project which targets both 32 and 64 bit architectures at the moment. My system is amd64. I added i386 architecture using this guide. However, my problem is
Code: Select allapt-get install package-name:i386
prompts the removal of currently installed packages (amd64 arch.) which is the problem.
Code: Select allReading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
libportaudio0:i386
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Some of the packages I am talking about are
-libegl1-mesa-dev:i386
-libportaudio-dev:i386
Now, as of now, I want to carry out the compilation using 32 bit libraries, however, I really don't want to install 64bit version of all prerequisites each time I switch the compilation from 32 bit to 64. Is there any way to have both architectures at the same time?
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Jun 19, 2010
i am trying to install opensuse 11.2 to my vaio laptop i have win7 pro 64 bit already installed so i'm trying dual booting i have followed the below steps1- on windows, shrink the c partition and create a new unused volume for suse2- install the suse 11.2 on the new unused volume with hdd config like sda4 swap 4 gb sda5 20 gb / ext4 sda6 120 gb ext43- selected custom packages and started the installaton4- installation started smoothly and after installing packages it tried to reboot the machine at the end. But after this point the reboot operation has failed and gave a blank screen.
At the end the installation failed.I started the machine vaio boot logo comes and stops. i can't even enterbios setup or change boot options.I have unplaged the hd reset the partions, pluged it again and recovered win7So i think the installation damaged the file system.i have tried the above steps 2 times and came up with the same result.I have installed fedora 13 before with no problem.
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May 20, 2011
i just installed the new vision of Ubuntu 11.04 , i created 3 partitions 1 for swap, the other one for / and the last one for /home, but by mistake instead of selecting /home i chose /boot, and i want to change it now, i already tried changing my FSTAB and i ended up with a corrupted Desktop when i restarted. i had to change my FSTAB using VI command here you have a copy of my fstab:
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier
[code]....
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Jul 1, 2011
I've installed Ubuntu 11.04 on a desktop and am trying to install ndiswrapper. I don't have a wired connection to the router, but I have managed to use ndiswrapper successfully on other Linux live distributions which already had them installed (eg, Linux Mint 9). By inserting the Ubuntu 11.04 Live Cd and adding the cdrom in Synaptic's "Settings > Repositories" menu, I can find it in the list of packages, but when I try to install ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 and ndiswrapper-common I get a few error messages. First, a notice pops up saying: "Some of the packages could not be retrieved from the server(s). Do you want to continue, ignoring these packages?". I guessed this is due to lack of an internet connection, so I selected "yes" and got an error box that reads:
"E: Internal Error, No file name for ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 W: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 11.04_Natty Narwhal_-Release i386 (20110427.1)]/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-utils-1.9_1.56+r2729-1_i386.deb
Unable to stat the mount point /media/Ubuntu4011.0440i386/ - stat (2: No such file or directory)"
This system has two hard drives and a cdrom drive. I've error checked the Live cd, and it came up clean. Please, can someone give me a hand getting Ubuntu to mount the cd? PS: I've downloaded the ndiswrapper files from sourceforge onto a thumbstick (version 1.56). Is there a way I can install them from the stick?
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Nov 18, 2010
Is it possible to configure Yast Software Manager module so that it does not completely exit when done installing a package? It get's annoying to search for a package and install it, the software manager exits, you then have to reopen it, install another etc. a few minutes later.
Seems this would be a config option, but if so I can't seem to find it.
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Apr 30, 2010
When one installs an application,it brings in other stuff too as dependencies.
When this application is removed,will zypper remove the dependencies that came with it and are not needed by other installed packages?
Is it possible to check before and after removal?
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Jul 17, 2010
I'm not talking about YaST auto-resolving dependencies for me or the auto-updater checking for patches... sometimes, when I start up the Software Management portion of YaST, there will be a package or two marked for installation. Today, for example, it wants ksshaskpass. This is 11.2 64-bit. (I know I'm bucking the trend of 11.3 questions, but I'm hoping you can overlook that.)
Is this behavior expected? I don't think I ever noticed it prior to 11.2.
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May 10, 2011
I have been using Linux for a few years, but am new to openSuse. I can use Ubuntu and Debian, but Suse is quite different. So my difficulties may seem childish. Problem 1 - Adding packages: I was able to download scim, because I know the name of the package. However, I cannot add languages. I have the extra languages c.d., but Yast will not install anything. I have a list of folders on the disc, but Yast thinks they are empty. I checked the package download area of Suse's web-site, but searching for languages turns up nothing. Apparently one needs to know the name of the packages. Is there a simple way to download packages? I should not need to know the name of every package. I found Chinese in the package manager (I have yet to try it, so do not yet know if I have what I want.), but cannot find Latin. I am not worried about German, because it should be part of the basic system.
Problem 2 - Adding simple things: I also cannot add founts. Does Suse have a permissions system like Debian and Ubuntu? I need to add these founts for the documents I work on. How do I gain access to the user foulders? With Debian and Ubuntu it is alt+F2, then, gksu nautilus. Does Suse use something similar? Problem 3: This problem is embarrassing. After freshly installing the system I played with desktop customisation. The result is strange. The only way I can have the cute green screen with the chameleon logo is with the "virus" theme. Ugly; do not want it. If I set it up the way it originally was with "image" I can only have a solid colour of my choice. Are there bugs in the system or am I hopeless?
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Jun 30, 2011
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Aug 3, 2010
Running 11.3 on an Acer aspire 2920 laptop. OS is up and running as are other applications. I have been trying to install a .wmv player (for CBT), (kaffeine, MPlayer, VLC) and also crossover for linux. In all cases I get "Installation of package xxxxx rpm failed".
The system downloads without problem but the issue appears to be on the actual installation side.
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