Fedora Installation :: How Can I Install Upstart And Sysv INSTEAD Of Systemd

Jul 30, 2011

I've proven that the the D in systemD is for DISASTER.At first, I thought that the dozens of problems I had with startup, shutdown, and services, was due to my upgrading from Fedora 14. But now that I've tried a fresh install, I have a new set of different problems. Basically DBUS broke after I installed Samba, and no combo of reinstalling either of them fixed anything. So here goes my third Fedora 15 install.

During a fresh install, can I de-select systemd and select upstart and sysv instead? systemd is not visible in the GUI installer. Do I need some Kickstart hack or something? Is this possible at all?

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Fedora :: F14 Replace Upstart With Systemd?

Jul 4, 2011

Because of my problem here:[URL]..I'd like to replace upstart with systemd on F14. Is this as simple as a yum install? In the wiki is it's referred to as a "technology preview" for F14, which is meaningless to me; there are no further notes about installing or enabling it.

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OpenSUSE Install :: What Is The Correct/safe Way To Move From Upstart To Systemd

May 3, 2011

What is the correct/safe way to move from upstart to systemd? I originally installed upstart in 11.3 and have now upgraded to 11.4. Having successfully upgraded to 11.4 I tried to use yast2 to install systemd and systemd-sysvinit onto my running system. Yast correctly identified that upstart should be deinstalled as a prerequisite for installing systemd-sysvinit.

After the install of systemd the system wouldn't shut down, and on a reset the system reported many systemctl/start service timeouts on things such as mounts and ttys. Eventually the system started an X-windows KDM login, but there were no console ttys and mounts were missing. I used X/kdm to login to root - phew! - I restored / from an rsync backup I'd made prior to the changes, so I'm back in business with upstart. I'd like to tidy up and move to systemd - I going to have a nose around myself, perhaps I will try switching back to sysv init and then going to systemd - but I have to wait for the machine to be idle before I experiment, any info in the mean time would be great.

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Fedora Installation :: Error - The File Upstart-sysvint.0.65.9.fc14.i686.rpm Cannot Be Opened

Nov 20, 2010

it's the installation media or the ISO is broken because i have reburned / redownloaded the fedora14 multiple times with the same result. I even tried burning the disc on a different computer just to make sure the burner is still working. This is the error i am getting when the "Starting installation Process" dialog displayed.

"The file upstart-sysvint.0.65.9.fc14.i686.rpm cannot be opened. This is due to a missing file, a corrupt package or corrupt media. Please verify your installation source" I remember fedora 13 and below i have to use nousb command or something similar to get fedora installed properly but not for fedora 14. It just pops up with the message above.

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Jul 16, 2010

I'm running the new OpenSuse 11.3 64-bit. how to switch from SysVinit to Upstart?

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Debian :: How To Actually Boot With SYSV On Jessie

Jul 26, 2015

The grub boot loader offers in options to boot with sysv instead of systemd. The problem is that it seems to fail and fallback to systemd. Let's have a look on my dmesg :

Code: Select allroot@PCALAIN:~# dmesg | grep sysv
[    0.000000] Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64 root=UUID=6740d56f-604c-4920-8c64-868e23976be4 ro rootflags=subvol=__active/root init=/lib/sysvinit/init
[    0.000000] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64 root=UUID=6740d56f-604c-4920-8c64-868e23976be4 ro rootflags=subvol=__active/root init=/lib/sysvinit/init

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So, how to successfully boot with SYSV ? Of course, the package sysvinit is installed on my system.

First, I have done a snapshot. Nevermind, is the following safe and the correct way to go back to SYSV :

Code: Select allapt-get purge systemd sysvinit
apt-get install sysvinit systemd-shim

Is it necessary to purge and reinstall sysvinit in order to guarranty configuration updates or on the contrary, will I break my system if it has none of systemd nor sysv ?

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Ubuntu :: Use Sysv-rc-conf To Preload Lxde?

Aug 2, 2010

In sysv-rc-conf, I notice that lxde is an option to add to the boot. Would it be possible to use sysv-rc-conf to preload lxde?

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Nov 28, 2010

I have installed SystemD in in parallel to SysVInti(with OpenSUSE enhancements). When I starting SystemD, startpar is also running. I suppose, i should add starpar.unit to SystemD configuration. I asks for help, because I won't broke my system.

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Debian Installation :: Installation With Upstart Instead Of Sysvinit?

Jul 3, 2011

upstart clearly boost startup time (tested on other distro). How to force upstart during netinstall of wheezy ? (I have bad past experience of switching from sysvinit to upstart by upgrade, and would like to avoid this way).

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Aug 17, 2011

We have seen with the release of Fedora 15, systemd is the new start-up services, which will replace SysVinit and Upstart on most Linux distributions. Here are some tips based on the order systemd-analyze, for analyzing the startup time of your OS.On commence avec l'option time, qui affiche le temps total de d�marrage de votre syst�me : (One starts with l' option time, which posts the total time of starting of your system: )

Code:
$ systemd-analyze time
Startup finished in 6385ms (kernel) + 3228ms (initrd) + 49335ms (userspace) = 58949ms

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Debian Installation :: Multiple SystemD Errors After Upgrade From Wheezy

Mar 3, 2016

Recently I upgraded my machine from wheezy to jessie.

Everything went smooth until the point that I restarted the node.

During startup I'm getting the following message which is flooding the screen:

Code: Select allsystemd-journald[296]: Failed to forward syslog message: Connection refused

After waiting a long time (the message above still continues to flood the screen), I'm being prompted with the following:

Code: Select allGive root password for maintenance (or type Control-D to continue):

If I press Ctrl+D the boot process continues and finally boots normally.

What I can do to avoid pressing Ctrl+D during the boot process?

I'm assuming that it must be a startup service which is failing but I'm unable to trace which exactly is that.

I'm attaching the full log [URL] ....

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Fedora :: Simple Display Of Systemd Service Sequence?

Jul 13, 2011

What's the best way to get a list of the start order of services from systemd? Yes, I've tried

Code:

systemctl --order

This looks like the output I would expect, except that if that list is the system service start order, then my system is hosed. I certainly hope that my system is not starting nfs service before all the /usr/export filesystems are mounted.

I tried

Code:

systemd --test --system

but that generates over 22 thousand lines of gibberish! I filtered that with

Code:

systemd --test --system | grep -- -> | grep Unit | grep -i service

And it's less gibberish, but it's ALMOST the reverse order of the first command, and still pretty crazy.Ultimately, I need to discover, and fix the order of the services started by systemd, because they were mangled during the upgrade from Fedora 14 I hope that "systemctl --order" is either not the real deal, or I'm reading it wrong. Because if it is, I'm afraid I have a huge problem to fix.

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Debian Installation :: Dist-upgrade From Wheezy (using Systemd) To Jessie Hangs

Nov 19, 2014

I have done on previous releases, but this time it hangs on me. It's "only" a Virtualbox, so I can reproduce it.

The wheezy already runs systemd, and is fully updated to to latest packages. Does not run any graphical.

Edits the source.list and does
$ apt-get update
$ apt-get upgrade # Did on one upgrade
$ apt-get dist-upgrade

It starts to upgrade (complains about missing version in libpgp-error), libc is installed, but at some point the systemd is running at high CPU and a dpkg seems to be stalled.

Should I disable systemd on wheezy before? This might not have been tested so much.

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Debian Installation :: Systemd - Automount Windows Partition / USB Devices In Jessie

May 11, 2015

There seems to be no documentation on how to automount partitions and USB devices under systemd in Jessie. (Overall, systemd entirely lacks any useful documentation or GUI configuration tools -- all very cryptic and hidden.)

I created custom files to enable automounting. I put them in /etc/systemd/system -- this may not be the right place, but it works.

Kernel note:
This does not work under the old Wheezy kernel linux-image-3.2.0-4.

To automount my Windows partition so I can access its files, I created:
/etc/systemd/system/media-windows.mount

The name of the file must match the mount point -- in this case, /media/windows

My file notes the device and file type, plus an fmask option so all the Windows files don't seem to be executable:

[Unit]
Description = windows mount to /media/windows
[Mount]
What=/dev/sda1
Where=/media/windows
Type=ntfs-3g
Options=fmask=111
[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target

The file ownership must be root.root. Apparently it doesn't need to be executable.

After creating, enable with:

sudo systemctl enable media-windows.mount

and it will mount on the next boot.

I read elsewhere that the before running the enable command you should run a start command:

sudo systemctl start media-windows.mount

but that didn't work for me.

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Debian Installation :: Suspend / Resume / Restore Services Under Systemd On Jessie

May 11, 2015

Fixing my chronic suspend/resume problems turned out to be easier under systemd, but like everything else lacks documentation.

To suspend rather than power off when pressing the power button, I edited /etc/systemd/login.conf

uncommenting this line and changing it to suspend:
HandlePowerKey=suspend

and uncommenting the line
HandleLidSwitch=suspend

Some services were lost on resume. This problem seems common. To run a command on resume, I believe you have to make your own script, and create a systemd file to run it.

My script is /home/james/.bin/james-resume.service, which contains:

#! /bin/sh
/sbin/hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda

This must be executable. Ownership doesn't seem to matter.

To run it, I made a file in /etc/systemd/systen/suspend.target.wants
The file name must match the script name:
/etc/systemd/system/suspend.target.wants/james-resume.service

This contains:

[Unit]
Description=Run James jobs at resume
After=suspend.target
After=hibernate.target
After=hybrid-sleep.target

[Service]
ExecStart=/bin/bash /home/james/.bin/james-resume.service
[Install]
WantedBy=suspend.target
WantedBy=hibernate.target
WantedBy=hybrid-sleep.target

Ownership must be root.root. Apparently it doesn't need to be executable.

Then enable with:
sudo systemctl enable james-resume.service

and check with:
sudo systemctl status james-resume.service

If it says the service is loaded, it's OK -- inactive only means it's done running.

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May 30, 2011

Two general questions about Fedora 15 before I decide to install. My system typically starts in about 32 seconds, with a distro using normal boot scripts. With Ubuntu and upstart it reaches the gdm login screen quicker in around 18 - 24 seconds. With systemd does anyone get a noticeable difference?

Also, is it possible to use an alternative desktop to gnome3 in Fedora 15. I've tried Gnome3 with Arch and its very slick although not for me, as I like panels and desktop applets. (I should add that my times quoted were mesaured using bootchart with a default set of services, no tweaking).

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Sep 12, 2015

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What is to do?

I would prefer to install only the base of SID and to add my goodies progressively as I need...

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Fedora :: During Lovelock BOOT Seems To Stop "unit Systemd-tmpfiles-setup Service Entered Failed State For More Than A Minute... And Then It Resumes"

Jun 11, 2011

I have a problem during BOOT. During BOOT Fedora seems to stop at the following line:

Code: [20.245743 systemd[1]: unit systemd-tmpfiles-setup service entered failed state for more than a minute... and then it resumes.

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Ubuntu :: Using Upstart Properly With Scripts?

May 3, 2011

I seem to be having some issues. I want to do the following. I want a script to run prior to any GUI starting (so that if it does crash close or whatever it is not effected).I am able to run the script after the system is booted and it works exactly as I want it to. Once the GUI opens I have a window open and maximize with no decoraction via devilspie. This way I have a desktop that can monitor the logs but not interact directly interact with the shell which is actually recording the logs.

The problem is, when I try and use a simple Upstart script to start it the script does not seem to be working. If I do a ps -A it seems to be still running. What it should be doing is recording what the serial input to the log file I am using. In fact... it doesn't seem to be capturing anything. If I try and run the script manually after the computer has booted (with the Upstart script run) to a GUI it crashes the system.The script I am running is simply to record any incoming data from a Serial connection. It sets up the serial port then starts recording.The shell script is as follows:

Code:
#!/bin/bash
stty -F /dev/ttyS0 9600 -crtscts cs8 -parenb -cstopb -clocal ixoff ixon

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Ubuntu :: Upstart Not Unmounting Disks?

Jul 20, 2011

Very frustrated. I have used Unix for ages so I understood the SysV startup stuff. But I have not had a lot of luck with Upstart. The other day I noticed that on every reboot my disks are getting fsck'd. I just recently put an ext2 on /tmp so this takes a while (the ext4 drives just rip through their journals).

The problem is no one is unmounting them on a KDE restart (4.X). I started out looking at /etc/init.d/umountfs and putting some logging in there. It never runs. This is despite that /etc/init has an upstart job that is supposed to run all the runlevel stuff.

I also tried to log some info in /etc/init/mountall-shell.conf which looks like it tries to do a umount -a on shutdown (which is probably not a good idea; you need to unmount in a particular order). That doesn't seem to happen either. I am not even sure how to troubleshoot this further. I suppose I need to see if the reboot( command has the same problem. Or if I shut down kdm first if it goes away.

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Jan 27, 2010

I have run into a problem that I've tracked down to being a conflict between the "Upstart" init system, and how it handles multiple (alias) IP addresses per physical interface. The summary of the problem is that the interfaces are being configured in the background in parallel with the starting of daemons. One "feature" of this (apparently intended for pluggable devices that would add or remove an interface) is that the network daemons are restarted each time an interface is added (and presumably deleted). But this is a disaster when applied to alias IP addresses.

I first saw the effects of this when during booting Ubuntu Server, the screen showed a message about OpenSSH daemon being restarted ... several times a few seconds apart each. At the time I didn't know what was causing that, but didn't worry because it ultimately was running when I needed it.

But now that I am deploying these servers for specific duty with many IP addresses per system (per network interface), the symptoms are becoming serious, and I need a solution.

1. The IP addresses are coming online too slowly. Apparently the time it takes to restart each daemon is being added to each address being configured.

2. It appears to be disrupting some daemons sometimes. Occaisionally, some daemon just ends up being hung somewhere, or dies. Too many restarts.

3. Sometimes few or even no alias addresses get configured. This might be due to a daemon getting hung, and the whole sequence just not finishing.

4. The "nsd" name server as packaged by Ubuntu doesn't deal well with this at all. It needs all its IP addresses to be up when it starts, or else it won't start. The Ubuntu package of it doesn't including any if-up script at all, although I'm not sure that would do any good.

What I need is a way to configure all these alias IP addresses so they are all configured immediately when the point in time is reached to bring up network interfaces for the first time. These are all static, and all are aliases on ethernet NIC cards plugged into PCIe cards, or integrated in the mainboard. None of them are pluggables. I did run a manual test of "ifconfig" in a loop configuring 2540 alias IP address on eth0 and it only took 2 seconds (no if-up triggers or daemon restarts here). So I know it's fast if nothing else is done between these steps.

Even for pluggable physical interfaces, I see no reason to even try to step through every alias (if it has aliases) with a daemon restart. If an alias IP address is added on later, then I can understand doing it. But if you have a list of 100 aliases for a physical interface, they really should all be done ... or at least attempted ... at once, and do any triggers needed after that.

So, how can I configure or modify Ubuntu Server 9.10 to do that?

I have each alias listed in the "/etc/network/interfaces" file with a separate "auto" and "iface" section for each one, with sequential sub-interface numbers appended to the interface name. I tried it without those sections (e.g. just "address" and other items in sequence) and that prevents the system from even coming up (bootable CD to the rescue to undo that). At least cntrl-alt-del did reboot it.

I tried to attach the /etc/network/interfaces file, but I don't know if it worked because I see no confirmations about it. if it didn't attach and you need to see it, say so, and I'll just paste it in a followup.

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Apr 24, 2010

Like the title stated Anyone with experience or suggestion, please do share. I've tinkered all night with this thing. Never get the VBox service I created to start.Here is my final code before I dried my brain.

Code:
# Archayl Server startup
#

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Jun 27, 2010

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Nov 11, 2010

From what I've read, it appears that the respawn stanza in /etc/init/mysql.conf would give me the restart option if the daemon crashes, but I want to make sure other safety features of mysqld_safe are present as well.My /etc/init/mysql.conf is the original. I've tried changing the exec stanza from /usr/sbin/mysqld to /usr/sbin/mysqld_safe but the job fails when I sudo service mysql start.mysql.conf

Code:
# MySQL Service
description "MySQL Server"

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Aug 13, 2010

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I want autostart this commands with UpStart:
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Sep 3, 2010

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Apr 30, 2010

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May 8, 2010

why upstart is broken in 10.04? The old init of /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start worked fine in 9.10.

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start: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.93" (uid=1000 pid=21758 comm="start) interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Start" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init"))

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May 9, 2010

mysqld not running on boot, I can start it manually with

Code:

sudo -u mysql mysqld

If I attempt to start it with Upstart I get

Code:

dom@mythbox:~$ sudo start mysql
start: Job failed to start

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May 24, 2010

I'd like to reconfigure vsftpd so that it does not start on boot (and I can enable/disable it using service vsftpd start/stop).

Though I've seen posts in the forums that stated that upstart jobs can be disabled by moving the /etc/init/job.conf file, other sites commented that the original file will be recreated on updates.

The other two suggestions were to alter the upstart script such that either the process starts on never:

Code:
start on (never
and filesystem
and net-device-up IFACE!=lo)
stop on runlevel [!2345]

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