Debian :: How To Actually Boot With SYSV On Jessie
Jul 26, 2015
The grub boot loader offers in options to boot with sysv instead of systemd. The problem is that it seems to fail and fallback to systemd. Let's have a look on my dmesg :
Code: Select allroot@PCALAIN:~# dmesg | grep sysv
[ 0.000000] Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64 root=UUID=6740d56f-604c-4920-8c64-868e23976be4 ro rootflags=subvol=__active/root init=/lib/sysvinit/init
[ 0.000000] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64 root=UUID=6740d56f-604c-4920-8c64-868e23976be4 ro rootflags=subvol=__active/root init=/lib/sysvinit/init
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So, how to successfully boot with SYSV ? Of course, the package sysvinit is installed on my system.
First, I have done a snapshot. Nevermind, is the following safe and the correct way to go back to SYSV :
Code: Select allapt-get purge systemd sysvinit
apt-get install sysvinit systemd-shim
Is it necessary to purge and reinstall sysvinit in order to guarranty configuration updates or on the contrary, will I break my system if it has none of systemd nor sysv ?
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May 2, 2015
After some updates Jessie 8 my boot grub shows now 2 kernel versions to boot from.
3.16.0-4-amd64
3.16-3-amd64
- How do I know which one is the newest and if happy with it, how to remove the older one?
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Nov 8, 2015
I've been using linux distros on my desktop forever, and got a windows 10 laptop recently. I want to dual-boot debain (jessie), so I installed it and it worked fine. Unfortunately, I have to enable Legacy mode in BIOS to boot into my grub then linux machine. Is there a way I can have my computer boot without legacy boot?
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May 17, 2015
How do you disable startx in Jessie when it boots up? In Wheezy I just had to disable the gdm3 service. I also tried a few settings in grub, but it still starts.
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Sep 26, 2015
I have two desktops running wheezy for years without problems. Recently, I reinstall jessie on one of them and won't boot anymore.The hardware is pretty normal: Asus motherboard, 12GB RAM, Nvidia video card, SSD hard drive, .After the install of jessie finishes, the very first boot failed, which means it hung up forever. The part that is annoying is that it fails at different places whenever I try.
For example, something, it fails at the following:
[ OK ] Started LSB: REP portmapper replacement
[ OK ] Reached target RPC Port Mapper
Starting LSB: NFS Support files common to client and server
Sometimes, it failed at start job is running for lsb set console font.It even failed to the console. When it goes to the console login, I can't put any user name or password. It's all frozen.The problem appears to be video card problem. But it worked fine in wheezy.
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Oct 12, 2014
After my most recent update, the boot sequence hangs at:"a start job is running for Create Volatile files and directories" with a timer and no limit .. I let it go for 12 minutes, but nothing.It seems as long as this sequence remains, the boot process does not finish and just hangs here.I haven't been able to find anything specific to this. I currently cannot boot into this machine, though do have access to files via dual boot.
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May 28, 2015
With "quiet" removed from the grub linux line, I'm getting the following error messages when the boot hangs up early in the boot process (19.768231 seconds into boot).:
input: HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm=3 as devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.1/sound/card0/input6
input: HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm=7 as devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.1/sound/card0/input7
input: HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm=8 as devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.1/sound/card0/input8
So, is this a NVidia issue or a sound card issue?
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Jun 25, 2015
I use debian jessie 8.1 and when i boot it, pc start fsck block clean etc.. but the fsck control is activated every on boot?
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Oct 14, 2015
When i'm tried google there is lots of bootlogd related document there. [URL] .... Yes there is documentation. But I'm only need "enable boot logging","reading boot log". Bootlogd not worked on jessie/stretch.
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Jul 3, 2015
I have installed debian jessie with debian first disk. During boot i see a service starts to raise network. It takes time. How can i stop it?
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Dec 4, 2015
I had Debian 7.9 up and running like a charm until yesterday. Today I did the upgrade to 8.2, now boot hangs. I see 3 boot entries for the new kernel now -
Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64
Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 (sysvinit)
Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 (recovery mode)
The latter 2 entries have no problem booting up. So do the previous kernel(3.2.0.4) entries. Only the first one hangs, for which I see these 6 lines on the console:
[ 0.214704] pnp 00:04: can't evaluate _CRS: 12298
Loading, please wait...
fsck from util-linux 2.25.2
/dev/mapper/myhost-root: clean, 198627/61000000 files, 2160052/24412 blocks
[ 0.047141] kvm: disabled by bios
[ 0.000985] kvm: disabled by bios
How can I make it boot up like others?
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Feb 29, 2016
Some thing quite bad happened to me , i installed debian jessie about 2 month ago. Today I wanted to try what a gnu/linux is like so I installed dragora 2.2 on one of my free partitions , (sda 1 is my debian root , sda2 is my debian home, I had sda4 which nothing was on it so i installed dragora on it. But something bad happened , during boot time you get this page which asks you what distro you want to enter in past I had just one choice and it was debian jessie, I expected after installing dragora I will see 2 distros on this page, but i get just 1 , and that's dragora ... but maybe i should mention this that when entering dragora i can access all my previous files , debian systemfile , debian home , they are still there but i can't enter debian jessie ...
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Jan 28, 2016
I have set up authentication when I am logging from my laptop using windows 7 (putty) into Debian server (see this post [URL].....) but since my laptop is dual boot (Windows 7 and Ubuntu) how would I set up authentication when i am using Ubuntu since from Ubuntu I will be logging into Debian SSH as same user that I am when logging from windows?
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Feb 22, 2016
I've recently noted that the boot process in my Jessie installation is occasionally taking longer than usual, not dramatically as in "really hanging", but still noticeably slower, during which some messages are printed along the lines of
Code: Select alla starting job is running (2 of 5) and also after that, once lightdm (I'm using the MATE desktop) comes up the screen gets painted slower as well.
Unfortunately, once the system is up and running there's no longer trace in the logs (either traditional syslogs or journalctl) of such messages, however what comes to mind is that I've just recently enabled persistent logging in systemd: could this be the reason of such (occasional) slower boot process?
Other than that, what else could cause such behaviour? What should I eventually check to ensure things are OK?
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Dec 28, 2015
I'm new on this forum, but not new on linux and in general on Ubuntu and Debian and I've always programmed on these OS but I still have a long way, however, in fact I have a new Aspire E15 573G in which there is the UEFI that creates many problem on the boot of different systems but I need to change Windows 10 to Debian or to have both them because I hated Windows.
I searched in many sites to find because my debian live charged on my usb pen doesn't boot in any manner, I read that the live debian still does not start on UEFI systems but I still BELIEVE that there is a method to boot it up and I found this: [URL].....
So my request to you for now is what are the boot parameters to set to the liveboot.nsh? because that configuration doesn't solve the problem, Debian wanted ACPI disabled so I modified the .nsh but still there's the black screen.
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Aug 13, 2014
I upgraded from deb7 to deb8, but am no longer able to boot. After passing the grub boot menu, the following messages are displayed:
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Select allLoading, please wait...
[ 6.065713] systemd-fsck[148]: /dev/sda1: clean, 428644/1310720 files, 410616
9/52442880 blocks
[ 7.480551] Error: Driver 'pcspkr' is already registered, aborting...
[ 8.692700] systemd-fsck[341]: /dev/sda5: clean, 145485/6176768 files, 17407409/24695552 blocks
[ 18.066215] Loading kernel module for a network device with CAP_SYS_MODULE (deprecated). Use CAP_NET_ADMIN and alias netdev- instead
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The screen then clears and an underscore is displayed as the sole character at the top left position of the screen. The system hangs at this point. During installation, I rejected two changed files: /etc/init.d/bootlogd and /etc/libreoffice/sofficerc. For both, I opted to keep the installed version (the default choice of the installer) rather than replacing with the new version. The first might be related to the problem, although it seems to be responsible only for logging the boot process, and I would not expect this to compromise booting.
In case this information is useful, sda1 is mounted at /, sda2 is swap space, sda3 is extended, and sda5 is a logical partition mounted at /home.
I am able to boot into rescue mode, but other than that the system is not usable. Unfortunately, no useful error messages are given to aid in diagnosing the problem.
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Jul 10, 2015
I would like to upgrade from Win8.1 to Debian 8. This post might require some Wind expertise as well. I have to deal with the dreaded UEFI interface.
I got the iso with the added firmware from here: [URL] ....
The i386 download and it appears to be 334 MB. I pretty got it because I don't want to mess with the wireless controller (been there done that.)
As far as the Wind side goes I disabled secure boot. Just whenever I get to the fancy blue screen, I select boot from EFI DVD. Then it just says it can't load it and asks if I want to continue loading the OS. This might be useful I used the default Desktop Burning Gadget to burn the disk image.
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Sep 4, 2015
I have a Dell laptop (inspiron 1150) which was dual booting Windows XP and Ubuntu 9.04. I have successfully installed Debian Jessie Standard over the Ubuntu. I pre-partitioned using gparted-live to make a separate single partition for the Debian install. Guided partitioning was then carried out by the installer producing separate /, /home, and swap partitions. After installation, the grub menu shows an entry for Debian and Windows XP. I can boot Debian, but not Windows XP. The symptoms are the same as reported in other forums: A terminal is displayed, vanishes and the system reboots defaulting to the Debian boot.
The grub.cfg file for the Jessie system has an other-os entry:
Code: Select allmenuentry "Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (on /dev/sda2)" {
set root=(hostdisk//dev/sda, msdos2)
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root cc0ce0ab0ce091ae
drivemap -s (hd0) ${root}
chainloader +1
}
The original Windows entry for the Ubuntu install was:
Code: Select allmenuentry "Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (on /dev/sda2)" {
insmod ntfs
set root=(hd0,2)
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set cc0ce0ab0ce091ae
drivemap -s (hd0) ${root}
chainloader +1
}
The partitions produced by partman look OK (during the pre-partitioning I did not touch sda1, sda2, or sda3):
Code: Select all~ # fdisk -l
Disk /dev/sda: 37.3 GiB, 40007761920 bytes, 78140160 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
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Partition table entries are not in disk order.
The os-prober found XP:
Code: Select all~ # os-prober
/dev/sda2:Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition:Windows:chain
So it seems that everything is in place, but there are perhaps important differences in the grub.cfg files. Are the two "set root" commands equivalent for example?
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Sep 18, 2015
Debian-live-8.2.0-amd64-xfce-desktop.iso do not boot in uefi mode. I would like to know if live image can boot uefi mode? If not how can I do later from bios to install grub efi?
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Jul 28, 2015
Recently tried to make RAID1 on MBR partitions scheme on Debian Jessie - debian-8.1.0-amd64-DVD-1. The issue - I have unable to boot from second drive after grub-install /dev/sdb by any ways. RAID1 itself for / swap and home is fully functional. Decided to try the same thing on GPT, same story. How to boot from second drive on most recent Debian Branches?
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Mar 19, 2016
I upgraded a wheezy box in qemu to jessie (without systemd!) and now I didn't get an output from the console to a hostterminal using curses.System and grub starts with terminal output, but after around 6 to 8 lines of output the terminal gets black. As far as I found out it seems that the init process switches to graphical output. I tried out all found kernel options from nomodeset up to nofb,Are their other options to stop switching to framebuffer and graphical mode.
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May 11, 2015
I didn't change anything; it just stopped working on boot. I've changed permissions according to messages from log files. No good.I now get messages saying "unable to open display ' '." If I set the display (I've done this several ways, the messages say "unable to open display ':0'."
Systemd is taking control of everything basic, with almost no documentation and no configuration tools at all: rationalization by lunatics.You can make a script to run commands on boot using systemd on Jessie by creating two files: the script, in any location a file in /etc/systemd/system that runs that script..My script is called james-boot.service, placed in my /home/james/.bin directory.
#! /bin/sh
# this is run by /etc/systemd/system/james-boot.service
# Enable with sudo systemctl enable james-boot.service
# Check with sudo systemctl status james-boot.service
# If it says the service is loaded, it's OK -- inactive only means it's done running.
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This file must have ownership root.root, with (apparently) permissions 664 (rw-rw-r--).After creating, enable with sudo systemctl enable james-boot. service.Check with sudo systemctl status james-boot.service. If it says the service is loaded, it's OK -- "inactive" only means it's done running.
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May 14, 2015
I installed jessie amd64 lxde to a thumb drive to use with a laptop. Vanilla install using the amd64 lxde live cd. Upon booting the usb system, I am presented with a black screen with blinking cursor. No grub screen, no ability to type any commands and no ability to switch to another terminal. I tried booting into the live cd and I could get into the intro splash screen. Booting to the live system from there would also hang at a black screen.
However, using the kernel parameter "nomodeset" from the splash screen did allow the live system to boot to the desktop. I booted the live system, mounted the usb system and chrooted into it. I edited /etc/default/grub to include "nomodeset" in the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX variables and then ran update-grub.
Upon reboot to the usb system the problem still occurred. The video card in question is a amd firepro 5800m which has an lspci line of mobile radeon 5000 series. This card was supported in wheezy and apparently works with the live system.
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Feb 17, 2016
I have installed Debian Jessie 8.0.3 64-bit net install on an IBM ThinkCentre. I have earlier had a dual boot Win 8 and Ubuntu 14.04 installed on the computer. When I installed Debian Jessie, I deleted the Ubuntu partitions and created new partitions from the free space. The install went fine and the Debian EFI/UEFI version of Grub was installed, but clearly at some other place, as when I boot the system, the old Ubuntu Grub pops up and of course cannot find the necessary files that it is looking for.
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May 4, 2015
I recently finished a mini-itx machine and everything was working great with a fresh Jessie install. I put in a PCIe wifi card and now the computer won't boot. The power LED is on, the PSU fan is spinning, but I get no display output at all and I don't know how far into the boot process the thing even got. I removed the card and the machine boots fine again.
I only have one PCIe slot so it is my only option, I don't have another PCIe card to try, nor do I have another machine to test the wifi card in. The card is brand new, for what it's worth.
WiFi card: [URL] ....
motherboard: [URL] .....
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Aug 2, 2010
In sysv-rc-conf, I notice that lxde is an option to add to the boot. Would it be possible to use sysv-rc-conf to preload lxde?
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Jul 30, 2011
I've proven that the the D in systemD is for DISASTER.At first, I thought that the dozens of problems I had with startup, shutdown, and services, was due to my upgrading from Fedora 14. But now that I've tried a fresh install, I have a new set of different problems. Basically DBUS broke after I installed Samba, and no combo of reinstalling either of them fixed anything. So here goes my third Fedora 15 install.
During a fresh install, can I de-select systemd and select upstart and sysv instead? systemd is not visible in the GUI installer. Do I need some Kickstart hack or something? Is this possible at all?
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Jan 16, 2016
I'm not having the invisible mouse problem, I don't have a mouse at all. Nothing is selected when I attempt to use my touchpad no matter how much I try. I've been trying to fix this problem for three or four days including by installing alternative OSs (Ubuntu Gnome 15.10, Ubuntu 14.04, Ubuntu 15.10), but those OSs have trouble finding the boot drive and is generally a massive nightmare. I figured Debian's lack of mouse would likely be easier to fix and so here I am. I've searched Google relentlessly for days now, the Man pages are useless for my problem, and the only mouse related posts on the forum didn't fit my own issues.
I'm using a Toshiba Satellite C55D-B5102 AMD-64 with Debian 8.2 (Jessie) and none of the operating options like Cinnamon selected at install.
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May 19, 2015
I've had a weird issue recently with Java/Spring. Basically, it would work on all machines but my trusty Debian box. Macs for devs, Ubuntu for production and some devs have it too. This annoyed me, because of course Debian is the greatest and it must work there too! Also, Java is based on the whole write once run anywhere concept, I have never really had a problem with code behaving differently on different Java installs of the same version, even on completely different OSs it seems to behave itself very well. URL....
I moved up to Jessie and the problem goes away. I can only conclude that some library that is called by Java got upgraded, somehow influences the order in which Spring resolves its dependencies. Probably the fact that other devs build on Ubuntu and have got it working there, and the upgrade to Jessie brings my libs more in line with what Ubuntu will be running has done the trick.
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Jul 4, 2015
Is there any shortcut to move to desktop ? On debian wheezy there was "CTRL+ALT+D" .
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