Fedora Installation :: Booting Without Putting Grub In The MBR?

Jan 17, 2011

I am shortly getting a new computer, It will arrive with Windows 7 on one disk and will have a second disk, on which I will install Fedora. In the past, when I've set up a dual boot system, I always used the standard configuration with the first part of grub put in the MBR. But this time I would like to put grub entirely in the Linux disk and then use Windows 7's boot loader to boot. I set up another computer that way where the disk originally came with Vista. But in that case, I set it up the standard way and then changed it afterwards to use the Vista boot loader.

This time, I want to set it up when installing Linux so grub is entirely on the second Linux disk. So until I manage to figure out how to get the Windows boot loader to do the job, I need a separate way to boot Linux, say from a CD with grub on it. But that CD should have the appropriate grub configuration on it. The easiest way I know to create such a CD is from Fedora, but there is the problem that I first need to get into Fedora to do it. I can think of several ways to approach that problem, i.e., using the installation disc in rescue mode or using some raw grub booter created from my old system. But I would like to keep things as simple and direct as possible, since otherwise I'm sure there will be false starts and a lot of fiddling.

So could someone direct me to some simple instructions to do what I want as quickly as possible. In particular, are there any options to do it in the installation process?

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Ubuntu Installation :: Drives From BIOS And Tried Putting GRUB On Both SSD And 1TB HDD

Mar 4, 2011

I'm having some issues getting Ubuntu to boot. I've installed it a bunch of times before, but dual booting and not. Right now though, I'm having issues installing it along with Windows 7, on separate hard drives. Here's my current configuration:

60GB SSD with windows 7
500GB HDD, NTFS, windows 7 data

I bought a 1TB HDD that I want Ubuntu on, but I only want Ubuntu to use 100 GB. I want the other 900GB for Windows 7. So, I put in the Ubuntu CD, chose to edit the partitions manually in the 1TB HDD, created a 100GB ext4 primary partition for linux and a 2GB swap partition, leaving the other 900GB unallocated. Ubuntu seemed to install fine, said it succeeded, and asked me to reboot. When I did, however, my computer boots straight into Windows (no GRUB screen at all). I've tried changing the boot priority to all three of my installed drives from BIOS and tried putting GRUB on both my SSD and 1TB HDD.

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Aug 27, 2011

I have tried and failed to install F14 and 15 on my system for a while now and I have been running Ubuntu in the mean time as it installs and runs fine as does Mint, and Suze.

My Pc is getting a little old now but is still very capable, however the Primary master Sata port seems to have a fault on it so I don't use that anymore as it ends up corrupting my hard drive after a few weeks.

I am running one hard disk on the secondary sata port which shows up as the primary slave in Bios.
When I install F14 or 15 all goes well till I restart then it boots to Grub with no errors.

I have tried assigning root in grub and it doesn't seem to think any hard disk exists from what I have tried, what am I missing?

Just to confirm I am running one hard disk on the second SATA port, Fedora detected it on install as sda1, and the rest of the linux partition as sda2.

I have tried this multiple times and the grub was installed to the MBR

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Jul 22, 2011

I am having trouble getting FEdora 15 running on my MacBook Pro. I had Fedora 15 installed before on this MBP before, so I know it works. I basically followed the good old instructions of

1. Create a Windows partition in bootcamp (rEFIt was already installed from trying to get ubuntu running)
2. Boot from disk and install in Windows partition with bootloader on installed on the / partition
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4. Shut down the computer and start up on the parition you installed linux on

Now I get a grub error code...

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Feb 18, 2010

Debian if my first OS and i want to dual boot Fedora12.Ok i installed Fedora12 and choose not to install the bootloader(gonna use the one Debian installed)What i'm tring to do in Debain is edit my /boot/grub/menu.lst
Here is what i have

Code:
title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-1-686
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-1-686
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Jul 31, 2011

is it ever possible to do dual booting with grub(legacy) ever at all!. it is possible provided i take some pain, here is the link of that post [URL] i was coward and weak i didn't try that out then. but i did try it out. now so if u haven't seen the post .... I've installed Fedora 15 desktop(Gnome) with physical Logical volume called vg_fedora lv_root(ext4) ,lv_swap and lv_home(ext4), with 500MB /boot partition and had about 200GB free hard disk space ... so i wanted to install Scientific Linux 6.1 (because our school uses RHEL 6.1)

so, while running the installer I made (added) a logical volume lv_Scientific with ext4 FS and made its mount point (/) and used the MBR /boot which overwrote the Fedora /boot (completely OK and was as expected) i restarted after installation i got SL log in and as per the directions of the thread i copied the boot stanza from grub.conf of fedora 15 (which i already had copied and pasted into a text file and copied it from there)and pasted it into grub.conf of SL you may ask why did i choose same physical LVM too save swap space ... if i had made another physical LVM i had to make another swap ( i like LVM ... its cool)

completely unexpected happened Fedora now boots but not SL when grub starts i get this error 27 unrecognised commad and when i press <enter> i get grub menu with SL and fedora when i press on Fedora it works well i get my fedora login and i did login .. everything works fine but when i press SL it goes to the previous black screen grub error 27

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May 22, 2011

I have just converted from using Arch Linux for the last year to using Fedora 14. So far I have been having a blast but I really enjoy the idea of putting /boot inside an LVM container and that is how I had my Arch system built. So I wanted to do a learning experience and did a standard install on my 60GB SSD. Which ended up with a 500MB /boot outside LVM, a ~30GB / and ~30GB /home inside LVM. Now I really like spreading things out onto different LV's that I can resize but for now I am focusing on getting /boot and grub2 working. So after the install I did a complete backup with Clonezilla to a spare drive and set to work. I shrunk /home's LV to 10GB to give me plenty of space to work with and created boot_lv inside LVM at 128MB.

So here is my first question:After 2 hours trolling through the forums, documentation and blogs I believe that the ideal size for any /boot is 512MB due to during pre-upgrades Fedora loads a bunch of data to /boot. Would I be correct in both assuming this size and the reasoning behind this?After creating this LV I did another Clonezilla clone of the drive and got back into the Fedora install. From their I moved over all the data in /boot to my boot_lv mounted on /mnt/newboot and unmounted /boot. Then mounted /boot_lv in its place and installed grub2 and gettext ( <--- I think? It needed something like this) and did a grub2-install, grub2-mkconfig and grub2-setup all with commands I do not remember nor documented due to how many changes I have made and times I had to re-image the box from messup's and failures. So in the end can anyone point me in the direction of a nice guide on putting Fedora 14 completely in LVM which seems not to exist in Google and Fedora Forums ( to my knowledge.) Even a set of commands for taking a fresh install and doing.

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What do I need to do to make GRUB load again upon booting?

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Dec 25, 2010

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May 2, 2011

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Feb 3, 2010

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2. can boot into fedora, chroot into the ubuntu partition
3. no data loss

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Feb 11, 2010

I will like to triple boot Ubuntu, XP and Windows 7, but I already had Ubuntu and XP running on separate HDDs, Ubuntu was installed first, then I installed XP on a separate HDD (with the Ubuntu HDD disconnected), now I did the same for Windows 7, I disconnected all other HDDs (Ubuntu, XP and Data)and installed windows 7 on a separate HDD.When I connected everything back(Ubuntu HDD, XP, Data HDDs and Windows 7 HDD, Windows 7 does not appear on grub boot menu and now Windows 7 does not boot up by it self.

Is there a way to simply add Windows 7 to Grub so I can have all 3 OS's on grub menu?Can grub search HDDs to look for OSs to add to the menu?Funny thing is the XP entry on grub appeared by it self, I've never edited grub to add XP on the booting menu, I was booting directly to XP by going into the BIOS and selecting the XP HDD as my booting drive instead of Ubuntu HDD, somehow XP was added to the grub booting menu.

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Jun 8, 2010

Had v9.x installed alongside Windows XP SP3 install. Have not used it that much since install.
Got the bug to upgrade to v10.

Went through the upgrade process, everything seemed fine.

At the end of the install process asked which dev to install GRUB onto - I selected only one drive, the wrong one of course, and the reboot failed.

Boots up with:

Have LiveCD running now to post. Ran Info_boot Script.sh - results below.

Will reinstalling v10 from Live CD fix this? Will this use Wubi or just go through normal install process? Or is there an easier fix to install GRUB on the correct drive to get the dual boot choice of Windows XP and Ubuntu back.

Naturally I need to get back to Windows ASAP - it's the net gateway and print server for my home/office setup.

Boot Info Summary:

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Nov 21, 2010

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Jan 21, 2011

Ive installed Ubuntu 10.10 from a SD card (yes my laptop supports booting from SD) and it works fine except the grub does not load. Although I know there are many threads about this Im not sure which one to use because my problem is quite strange.
Im not pretending I understand how grub works but I find it strange:
When I boot from Hard Drive, it boots into Windows without loading grub (I installed ubuntu to an empty partition along the windows on the same drive), however, when I force booting from the SD card, I get the grub window with all the options as expected - ubuntu, mem check, windows 7. Now Im not sure if its grub loading from this SD card (containing ubuntu) or the card somehow runs the grub that is on the hard drive.

My guess is that the partition containg windows (sda0) is flagged as boot and thus the system doesnt even look after grub when booting, however, when theres the SD card it somehow forces booting the ubuntu partition (sda6).

Any idea what I should do? I can boot into Ubuntu, I can access grub etc. I just cant make it load without having the SD card in my PC

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May 3, 2011

I had Ubuntu 10 running on vmware machine. It ran fine. I upgraded to version 11, but now when the machine restarts I do not get any menu, I just get his:
GNU BRUB version 1.98-1ubunutu7
Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported.
grub>

And that is it! No menu, no list of options, nothing. If I type "ls" I get:
(hd0) (hd0,5) (hd0,1) (fd0)

I can enter "root (hd0,1)" which gives me:
(hd0,1): Filesystem is ext2.

Then typing "kernel /boot/vm" and pressing tab shows:
vmlinuz-2.6.32-27-generic vmcoreinfo-2.6.32-27-generic vmlinuz-2.6.35-28-generic vmcoreinfo-2.6.35-28-generic vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic

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What is the configuration issue in the other-than-Fedora-11 stanza below that prevents that OS from booting? That stanza is taken directly from the /boot/grub/menu.lst of that OS, whose root partition is on sda5. All I get upon choosing the menu entry is a blinking cursor and a steady HD light. obsessing over this for a couple of weeks, reading what I can find about grub configuration but without joy.

Here is /boot/grub/grub.conf:

# grub.conf generated by anaconda
#
# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
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Code:
fixboot
fixmbr

I reboot, and there it is again ... the GRUB. How can I get Windows XP working again? I didn't touch the C: boot partition, so the XP installation should still be intact.

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Is there any way to fix this so its all updated automatically while leaving windows the top choice? No manual intervention required beyond clicking "install updates"?

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Apr 7, 2010

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Jan 23, 2011

I have 3 hard drives installed to my system, 1TB, 2TB and 500GB drives with the following configuration:

ledi@ledi-ubuntu:~$ sudo parted /dev/sda print
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Disk /dev/sda: 1000GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
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I have got Windows XP Pro installed in my Laptop. It had 2 partitions. In C drive i have got Windows XP.Installed UBUNTU in E Drive. It did partiion E drive futher to install it. Had the GRUB RESCUE prompt initially. But after running the following got into the next problem.

Grub reinstall fix:
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