Debian :: Choosing Between Unstable And Testing?
Mar 16, 2010
I was trying to install debian etch in my laptop, but it seems that the kernel 2.6.26 has a bug related to the ACPIC Timer and the HDD controler, so the installation in some part is freezed, so, I found that in the kernel 2.6.3xx the bugs are gone, it looks that i have to install unstable or testing, searching in the wiki is not enough clear for me what should I choose, so my question is:based in your experience, which is better to choose unstable or testing? I would use the laptop to code in LAMP, postgreSQL, J2EE and do some excercises related to networking services: SSH, DNS, iptables, etc
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May 17, 2011
EDIT: This thread has taken a different turn, please go down to viewtopic.php?f=30&t=64242#p370832 Below is I originally wrote, now totally irrelevant.:D I am delighted/bored with my one Debian Squeeze install, so I've decided to free up a partition to play with another configuration of the universal OS.At the moment I am liking the looks of the supposedly not so unstable Sid; what's the ideal download/install path to get Sid up and running? Is it:1) I already have a live Squeeze GNOME DVD lying around; should I install that again and upgrade to Sid?
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May 19, 2011
can't use catalyst driver, virtualbox refuse to run, selinux problems,I want to know if its possible to install only this new kernel 2.6.38 without "contaminating" the rest of my installation with unstable packages?
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May 7, 2010
What is the difference between Sid (unstable) and Squeeze (testing)?
Is it better to download Squeeze(testing) rather than Lenny(stable) because the software is more up to date?
Or would I want to get Sid? How unstable is it?
This is for a desktop by the way.
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Feb 28, 2009
I am a ubuntu user but I want to go to the next level to use debian because what I heard of it, but I get confused to what to install on my computer do I install debian testing or debain stable with testing repositories.
- I want to use this system to the home use only.
- I want to use the newest packages because the stable packages is too old to use.
- What about using more than one repository i.e stable with testing with unstable at the same time (the same sourcelist)
- Is the testing and unstable sid packages good enough for the home use?
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Oct 29, 2010
is there a way to choose packages when installing Debian? Normally I use min install but that still puts on many packages I don't want, is there some way of getting up a screen to select/deselect packages?
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May 5, 2010
What is the recommended way to do updates when running sid (especially those involving updates of xorg or desktop environments as they should not be running at that time)? I imagine this would be safe:
1. # apt-get update
2. # apt-get dist-upgrade -d
3. Switch to a text mode terminal (say, tty1).
4. # /etc/init.d/kdm stop
5. # apt-get dist-upgrade
Or simply using init 1.
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Jul 25, 2015
I just upgraded from Debian 8.1 stable to testing and finally to unstable, looking for latest software.However, I cannot find sources for security or software updates, the only repository that works from me is
Code: Select allhttp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main.
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Aug 15, 2010
I noticed that Sid/unstable (Gnome - kernel 2.6.33 - xorg 1.7) does not use xorg.conf file for X driver. The X driver seems to get detected automatically by the kernel and xorg, which is done perfectly even with 3D support. But I noticed that it uses the xorg.conf file for the input devices. When I renamed it, the keyboard and mouse were disabled. Is there a way to get the input devices detected automatically also and get red of xorg.conf file completely?
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May 17, 2010
I've just migrated to Debian unstable with KDE 4.4 and it's all fine except that I have no sound in certain cases. The default settings in the KDE Multimedia section had pcsp (Internal PC speaker) as the first device listed everywhere, so I had no sound anywhere at all (except the sound test button).
After placing the sound card on top, I got sound in JuK and KDE login/logout sounds, for example, but there's still no sound in VLC or when viewing Flash videos (games seem to have no sound, too).Another thing is that unless I mute the Beep channel (using KMix), I hear awful screeching even if nothing is playing. Muting the chanel stops that.I had no such problems running sidux + KDE 4.3.
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Jan 27, 2010
i've just built my own debian distro with simple-cdd, based on the latest release of lenny. everything is working fine, except for:
first, i couldn't set a default keyboard layout up in preseed file. i tried all these settings below, but none of them worked:
console-data console-data/keymap/qwerty/layout select US american
console-data console-data/keymap/family select qwerty
console-common console-data/keymap/family select qwerty
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May 26, 2011
why transmission 2.22 (12099) not pushed to unstable when it had been packaged and pushed to experimental sometime back (10-04-11) . The changelog suggested that it is/was due to libevent >= 2.0.10 dep
The Debian changelog
transmission (2.22-1) experimental; urgency=low
* new upstream release (must go to experimental because of
libevent >= 2.0.10 dep) (closes: #614069)
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Jan 8, 2010
My wireless card works most of the time, however with prolonged usage results in a temporary halt in functionality. I am not sure how to go about diagnosing or solving the problem, and I do not know what information I should be providing.
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Aug 1, 2011
how one can find the number of packages in the main archive for amd64 distribution on say sid/unstable ? Also if its possible to know the number of packages in amd64 distribution at a specific point in time (whenever I update my index) .
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Jul 10, 2011
started using debian for the first time and I have a problem. I've installed Banshee from the stable repository (only stable main contrib and non-free are in my sources.list) but when i start the program it says:
Running Banshee 1.6.1: [Debian GNU/Linux unstable (sid) (linux-gnu, x86_64) @ 2010-12-02 15:13:12 UTC]
error: line 3: bad flagvector
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Oct 6, 2010
Trying to move from squeeze to unstable -- my downloads add up to some 700 M or so.So I am trying to batch the upgrade:Some of the big-fellas are openoffice and texlive:So I didsudo aptitude hold '?name(openoffice)'sudo aptitude hold '?name(texlive)'Is that fine or are there some pitfalls to this?
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Apr 20, 2011
I made the terrible mistake of upgrading my live Debian Lenny web server with the the dist-upgrade option in apt-get. I didn't realize this was actually an unstable upgrade and now I have had to make all sorts of choices of what configuration files to keep or upgrade ect. The apache conf files were actually bad after the upgrade and I had to replace them with the backups (phew) and the system is currently still up and running. However my virtualmin installation is no longer working due to a issue with perl ( but thats another question I guess to ask somewhere else maybe ). Anyways... I'm very scared to restart because my server is co-located somewhere else and Im the only one who has ever worked on this server so I would need to go there and fix it myself if it doesn't restart. Basically I have two questions.. is there an easy way to move back to stable packages..If so is this recommended?
And also I'm currently trying to fix some broken dependencies in the package manager but when I run "sudo aptitude -f install" It keeps telling me it is going to remove all of these packages (listed below), some of which I know are very important to the system and I cannot figure out why it would keep trying to do this. I get an error on "phonon-backend-xine" whenever it tries to upgrade just saying this
"(gtk-update-icon-cache:12343): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/usr/lib/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache': No such file or directory"
I installed some desktop related packages a while back like gnome-desktop and I know the package is related to this, but all I really care about is making sure the server stays online and not about the desktop packages. I tried just removing kdebase-runtime and anything else that is dependent on it, but it wont let me do anything at all without fixing this broken package.
I really would just like to go back to lenny stable again but I know its probably too late since I already had it install a new kernel and grub 2 (auto configuring my new grub.list)..
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Jul 14, 2011
I'm going to start using Debian as my desktop system rather than Ubuntu since I'm not really liking all the crazy eye candy and just wanted a fast and simple system. My main problem is networking, I guess I'll start off with my system specs and other information for problem solving.
My specs are:
- Intel Core i7 2600K CPU
- Gigabyte Z68X-UD3P-B3 Motherboard
- 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz RAM
I have a Realtek RTL8111/8168B Ethernet Adapter builtin to my motherboad which I am using, I could only get a basic connection, by basic I mean that it allowed me to connect to my local area network but not the internet. I then modified /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf to change to managed=true this allowed me to use the internet, but the problem is, that it is a very unstable connection, the speed is very slow and it drops a lot! I have to carry on running /etc/init.d/network-manager restart twice to get my connection back, which lasts for about a minute.
output of lspci | grep -i eth
07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06)
Output of cat /var/log/dmesg | grep -i eth
[ 1.414250] r8169 Gigabit Ethernet driver 2.3LK-NAPI loaded
[ 1.415080] eth0: RTL8168b/8111b at 0xffffc90000c7c000, 1c:6f:65:c5:7c:34, XID 0c900800 IRQ 31
[ 9.213351] r8169: eth0: link up
[ 9.213392] r8169: eth0: link up
[ 13.813496] Bluetooth: BNEP (Ethernet Emulation) ver 1.3
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Aug 23, 2011
Recently, I installed VVVVVV and discovered that when attempting to use fullscreen mode, the monitor displays "video mode not supported" for 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768, and auto. After googling around for an hour or two (and only finding stuff from 2008-09) I have created a new xorg.conf from Xorg -configure and nvidia-xconfig. This doesn't seem to have had anyeffect.DebianRelease unstable (sid)Kernel Linux 3.0.0-1-amd64GNOME 3.0.2GeForce 7600 GSMonitor: Hyundai Imagequest
$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig: version 280.13 (pbuilder@cake) Mon Aug 8 15:37:15 UTC 2011
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Jul 4, 2011
I tend to stay on for long time. My machine is a Fujitsu T4310 tablet. I have got all tablet features previously working properly when I was on Isadora Mint. After installing LMDE to my surprise basic features of the tablet simply worked out of the box but I'm missing a few important features like multitouch, screen rotate and buttons in tablet mode.
As far as my experience with Isadora, it needed a driver called "fjbtndrv", but I couldn't find it in the repos, moreover, I think it might need some tweeks to get it behaving properly. I found some refferences but it refers to other ubuntu based distros, which I can't use of course.
p.s. prefere a solution other than compiling it myself, it looks scary and has lots of dependencies.
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Jan 4, 2010
I have an harddisk which is old, since many years >10 years, and I recall I crashed few clusters using windows programs which were old and harddisk stuffs doing. So the pc lives with bad clusters, this pc lives very well since many years.Question, the pc has woody debian, which let us to install and exclude bad sectors during install. Bad clusters was an usual thing in the past, but today not anymore.Unfortunately debian squeeze installer coders had the good idea to remove the " bad cluster checking " before installing debian, during install (cdrom netinst).
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Jul 1, 2010
I dist-upgraded my Debian unstable and 'cups' removed the official drivers ('cndrvcups-common_2.00-2_i386' and 'cndrvcups ufr2-uk_2.00-2_i386'). Well, now my network Canon i-SENSYS MF4120 multifunctional printer/scanner doesn't work and the drivers can't be installed back
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Nov 16, 2010
I'm a Debian testing user (not an experienced one) on laptop Dell Latitude D531 and has encountered a problem: I've often got my laptop slowed down very much and the message appears in a console: Disabling IRQ #19 I've searched for the solution, but failed finding the answer.
dmesg showed:
Code:
[ 21.064461] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlan0: link becomes ready
[ 21.067790] cfg80211: Calling CRDA for country: GB
[ 21.160654] padlock: VIA PadLock not detected.
[ 23.545837] fuse init (API version 7.13)
[ 24.354533] tun: Universal TUN/TAP device driver, 1.6
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Aug 12, 2011
I'm running Debian Testing and since some time ago I'm getting the following messages:Any ideas how to solve this warnings?
(gtk-update-icon-cache:9204): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache': No such file or directory
Processing triggers for gconf2 ...
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Oct 8, 2010
I just installed the Debian testing release(with LXDE) from this week. Everything works great except the network card. I know the network card works because Windows and the Parted Magic Live cd recognize it. Also "lspci" seems to list the card, but when I fire "ifconfig -a" it is not listed there.
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Aug 24, 2010
I've heard a lot of talk about people running 'Testing' as a rolling release version of Debian. As I have a spare box to play with, I wanted to see what this was like. I've done a minimal install of Squeeze and had a look at /etc/apt/sources.list. As I would expect, the file refers to Squeeze and not 'testing' (I think Woody used to go for stable/ testing etc, but this then got changed). In order to run 'Testing', can I just replace the Squeeze references and do:
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Apr 12, 2010
Is there any way other than building the source for 1.1.42 and manually installing it to actually get the latest version on my Debian Testing? How long does it normally take for new versions of Wine to get into the repo's?
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Apr 20, 2010
Is there any program for GNU to calculate CPU's performace in marks (should support multi-core CPUs)? So it will be possible to compare performance of different CPUs.
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Jul 6, 2011
I installed debian testing (wheezy) in virtualbox as I plan on installing it on a laptop. I thought it would come with gnome 3 but that appear to not be the case. [url] Is unstable running gnome 3? Is there a way to run gnome 3 with testing or would that be a bad way to go about it?
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Jul 11, 2011
I'm new to Debian, but because I'm used to Ubuntu and Mint, I searched in Gnome menu for a link to Synaptic, and there isn't one, so I opened synaptic from Terminal, using "synapric" command as root. I don't know if this is the proper way to open Synaptic, but when I try to install VLC, Synaptic returns the following message in a pop-up dialog box:
Please insert the disk labeled:
Debian GNU/Linux testing _Wheezy_ - Official Snapshot
i386 CD Binary-1 20110711-03:22
in drive /media/cdrom/
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