Debian Multimedia :: Disable Gnome But Start Window Manager
Aug 16, 2011
In the murky world of X11, window managers, session managers and desktop environments I cannot seem to figure out how to achieve the following in Squeeze:
1. Leave Gnome installed, but prevent it from launching when typing startx
2. Have both X11 and my prefered default window manager (blackbox) startup when I type startx (or similar)
My ultimate goal is to leave Gnome installed but "dormant" and when I do a remote ssh -X be able to use X11 forwarding with blackbox.
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Mar 10, 2011
How would I add a window manager to the gnome sessions menu on debian squeeze please? The window manager has been compiled from sources.
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Apr 25, 2011
I've done an Upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze and I get these warning messages in syslog:
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But gnome-volume-manager is not installed:
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Maybe this is a reason, my Gnome Desktop from time to time is completely freezing.
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May 22, 2010
xdm which refuses to load a window manager. I run Debian squeeze. xdm tries to execute /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession, which is actually an empty file, and fails with the error 'too many open files'. Afterwards xdm terminates the session and executes Xreset. Here the entries from the log:
Sat May 22 11:27:19 2010 xdm info (pid 2246): sourcing /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup
Sat May 22 11:27:23 2010 xdm info (pid 2246): sourcing /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup
Sat May 22 11:27:23 2010 xdm info (pid 2275): executing session /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession
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I was unable to find anything valuable concerning this problem. This is kind of annoying because I always have to switch to a console, stop X and startx X manually using startx. Then everything works out just fine. Unfortunately I am not yet that familiar with the setup process of X.
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May 8, 2015
I am using empathy, for facebook chat desktop pop-up notifications. The problem is, when i close the chat i cannot re opened it from the low bar like the previous version of gnome because when i put the mouse pointer down, off the screen the low bar does not appear.
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Apr 1, 2011
I've recently upgraded to gnome shell in experimental, and I like it so far. However, the window borders and themes look like how Gnome 2 did before you install gtk2-engines and some themes. Are there any themes in the repositories that I'm missing, or are they just not there yet?
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May 15, 2011
When I open either my user or root terminal, by right-clicking on the Minimise Window option in the top right-hand corner (beside the Restore Window and Close Window options), if I tick the Always on Top option from the drop-down menu, then the terminal Window (or any other window when this option is selected) will not minimise automatically on clicking the mouse in another open window like, for example, Iceweasel. This is particularly useful, for example, when cutting and pasting commands from the browser to the terminal and I recommend it. But how can the Always on Top option be set to permanent for a specific program, like the the Terminal so that it will be saved for the next time one logs in to a Gnome session?
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Jul 16, 2011
I'm fairly new to Debian/GNOME, and I'm running Squeeze and GNOME 2 and I have some questions. How exactly do I change the background image for the login window? I've looked up various suggestions but none of them seem to work - the appearances window does not ever seem to change the background image for the login screen. Also, whenever I log out or when I close the lid on my laptop and it suspends, I am unable to log back in - all I see is a black screen and my cursor, which I can move.
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Apr 22, 2015
I am running this Debian wheezy: URL... on my BananaPro.
I installed Gnome and tried startx but command not found. I installed Xinit but then I get :
Xinit:unable to connect to x server.
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Jun 3, 2010
I've noticed g-p-m refreshes information extremely delayed. Sometimes it takes many many minutes before it notifies me that I'm running on battery. how I can change this refresh rate? I've drained the batteries once recently believing the icon that said 89% less than a minute before the batteries were completely discharged (my battery lasts for about 15-20 minutes).
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Jul 1, 2010
Linux noob here with a very fresh Debian 5.04 install. Not sure if this is the correct board for this but here goes;*No* programs start in X. Terminal, System Monitor, Epiphany, Gedit, Synaptic Package Manager... They all fail to start.The programs try to start for 15 seconds after which they give up. For example, if I press the Epiphany-icon in the panel I see "Starting Epiphany We..." in the lower-left corner and the mouse cursor changes to the loading animation for 15 seconds but then after that nothing happens and the "Starting Epiphany We..."-icon disappears. I have two users (plus root of course) and the same thing happens with both accounts.
I can start the icons I have on my desktop (Computer, Home folder, Trash and Downloads) and I can Lock the screen/log off/shut down but that's about it. Oh and one more thing; sometimes when I log in everything works just fine, so this whole thing seems a bit random.
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Apr 9, 2011
I'm using Debian 2.6.32-5-amd64 (testing) for several years now. Initial installation was done at least two years ago, without any issues. I do keep my system up-to-date. However, a few months ago, after an apt-get update/upgrade/system-upgrade, I discovered that, if I try to launch KDE or Gnome, I only see a black screen and I actually need to restart my computer. On some cases the system even froze and needed to hardware reset, and run fsck in recovery mode after rebooting. Really very annoying... Since I don't use KDE or Gnome desktops (just a few applications depending on KDE/Gnome libraries), I didn't bother to figure out what is happening. However, others use my computer occasionally, and I would like to get KDE and Gnome working again. I purged and reinstalled everything that had to do with KDE or Gnome, even deleted KDE/Gnome files in my home directory, but the black screens are still there, everytime I try to start any of those desktops. Note that kdm or gdm don't even mention KDE or Gnome as available sessions, although all necessary packages are installed. I have no idea what to do to fix the problem.
Another question: I recently got rid of gdm because it is buggy and tried wdm instead. However, /etc/profile is not read anymore. Apparently, wdm does not use /etc/profile by default. Is there any way to change this?
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May 7, 2015
I installed jessie from a beta/rc shortly before release on my MacBook Pro 13 Retina and have kept it up to-date with apt-get dist-upgrade. Rcently gdm3/gnome-session have stopped working together. When I log in the screen goes black for a couple of seconds then goes back to the login screen. This happens with "System Default", "GNOME Classic" and "GNOME", but not with "GNOME on Wayland". However, Wayland seems to have some other issues. I haven't tried an alternative dm yet, eg lightdm, but the GNOME desktop does work when started with startx.
I've just used journalctl to get logs of what gdm3 and gnome-session were doing at the time. After booting I waited until the clock reached the next minute (19:55) so I'd know at which point in the logs I'd hit enter on my password. I'll post the gdm log separately in two chunks because the forum server doesn't seem to like text attachments and they're too long for one post.
Log from gnome-session:
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May 07 19:54:08 jeanette gnome-session[885]: gnome-session[885]: WARNING: Could not parse desktop file caribou-autostart.desktop or it references a not found TryExec binary
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Sep 14, 2015
I've just installed a new Debian Jessie with gnome from zero, and I have installed Xbmc on it. when I open xbmc on gnome interface, it crash and log out from gnome.
On the xbmc crash log I find several errors, browsing them on the network I didn't find anything.
here the crash log:
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############## XBMC CRASH LOG ###############
################ SYSTEM INFO ################
Date: Mon 14 Sep 00:15:49 CEST 2015
XBMC Options:
Arch: x86_64
Kernel: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3 (2015-08-04)
Release: Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)
############## END SYSTEM INFO ##############
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Mar 7, 2016
i'm using debian 8.3 with gnome 3.14.4.Every time i'm opening a pdf file with evince, either by using terminal or nautilus, i can see as a default the thumbnails sidebar. Is there any option that i can use in the terminal, that can hide thumbnails sidebar at the opening?
I know that i can use F9 shortcut to hide the sidebar after the file opening, but i'm asking for an option so that i will not see the sidebar at all when the pdf file is opening.
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Jul 9, 2010
when i called up the login screen to change to automatic login, i apparently changed my preference from GNOME to Failsafe GNOME (knew i made an extra click but didn't know where, dumb, i know). with Failsafe the network manager applet and all the other default prefs disappeared. the worst is that i can't connect to wireless without the nm.
these are preferences, right? you should be able to go right back anytime and change them but now when i go settings > admin > login the window is locked. only the unlock button is lit up and that won't budge. so as the thread title says, how do i unlock login preference window and/or disable Failsafe Gnome?
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May 2, 2010
I just upgraded Ubuntu from 9.10 to 10.04 and am having a problem with the window manager. When I log in and after it applies my background and the panels load, the window manager doesn't start right away, so if I open a program it won't have a top to it. I have to turn on Compiz, which turns off every time I turn on the computer. If I set it to normal, it searches for drivers and then the tops of windows appear. I have had to do this every time since I upgraded. I would do a clean install, but I have no way to back up my data since I have so much. How can I fix this?
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Sep 16, 2010
why, every time I started gnome, update-manager show me the error icon?seems like there are errors but if I lunch apt-get update or aptitude update it works great.
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Oct 8, 2015
Some days ago (2015-09-28) I installed Debian testing amd64. Log in as a user failed and instead of the Gnome UI there was a sad face with the text: „Oh no! Something has gone wrong. A problem occurred and the system can't recover.
All extensions have been disabled as a precaution. Log out“.
The relevant output of journalctl (run as root) said:
etc/gdm3/Xsession[5379]: cannot connect to brltty at :0
- /etc/gdm3/Xsession[5379]: Service 'org.kde.kaccessibleapp' does not exist.
- gnome-session[5379]: x-session-manager[5379]: WARNING: Application 'gnome-shell.desktop' killed by signal 5
- gnome-session[5379]: x-session-manager[5379]: WARNING: App 'gnome-shell.desktop' respawning too quickly
- x-session-manager[5379]: Unrecoverable failure in required component gnome-shell.desktop
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After some investigating, I found three work-arounds.
(1) Use gdm3-autologin: In /etc/gdm3/daemon.conf, remove the double crosses and insert own user name
AutomaticLoginEnable = true
AutomaticLogin = <own user name>
Disadvantage: Only one user can have access to the Gnome ui. If you log out, you enter the gdm3 greeter and … see above.
(2) Turn off gdm3 by running 'systemctl stop gdm3' as root, log in into a terminal as a user and run startx.
(3) Install package lightdm and make it to the standard display manager with 'dpkg-reconfigure lightdm'.
Disadvantage: Energy manager and screensaver settings of the Gnome control center are ignored.
The easiest way, however, especially if there are several users, is logging in via the gdm3 greeter.
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Apr 16, 2011
How to get compiz to auto-start. What seems to be the generally accepted method (from what a few google searches and the debian wiki tell me) of using gconf-editor and changing the window manager from 'gnome-wm' to 'compiz' in desktop > gnome > session > required_components doesn't change anything. The only method I found that did not involve using a terminal and running 'compiz --replace' every time I boot the computer was to add compiz and fusion-icon to the gnome startup apps, but this causes unwanted flickering (it starts metacity and then replaces it with compiz, ie it's simply automating what I would do with the terminal). Autostarting the fusion-icon alone does not start compiz, although it allows me to start it from it's menu if I right click the icon. Note that I sometimes use fluxbox as well, so starting it on boot isn't really an option either.
Perhaps this can be useful :
compiz:
Installed: 0.8.4-4
Candidate: 0.8.4-4
gnome-session:
Installed: 2.30.2-3
Candidate: 2.30.2-3
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Jan 23, 2009
I tried to install Compiz on F9 Gnome and I added a startup entry (system, preferences, personal, session, startup programs). Now I can't log in to the gnome window manager, it logs in and then logs out again. I would like to remove the entry that I created in the startup programs, but I don't know which file to edit. Where the settings to the System > Preferences > Personal > Session > Startup Programs are stored.
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Feb 19, 2010
How to change default window manager in gnome?
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May 20, 2011
Is it possible to run the GNOME session manager but not have a window manager? It would also be nice to have a panel (or at least a status notification area) that was in a window, rather than a title-bar less menu bar.
The reason I want this is that I'm using my Mac's X server and logging into a VM running Fedora on the same host. And I've noticed some things, like the ability to use USB tethering, depend on a D-Bus session being active, and possibly the NetworkManager widget in the panel.
From IRC - #gnome:<borschty> ok, then go to gconf-editor somewhere under /desktop/session there should be something like "required_components" and remove window-manager from that list. You could use something like wmctrl to change the window-type of the panel, but a) that might break stuff and b)
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Dec 28, 2014
I upgraded to jessie today and I am having problems with my background. When I log in, the background tries to start on the external monitor but then it fails to load. I can change the background in settings but it does not show up. The background just becomes black and I am not sure why.
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Oct 14, 2010
I'm curious, I believe that one of the ways that OSX make the GUI experience of *nix more 'snappy' was to ditch X and run the window manager more directly on the hardware.
If I'm looking to run Linux on a desktop, and have no interest in sending Windows to other machines on the network, can I run KDE or Gnome with no 'X' to eliminate that ever-so-slight lag with the window manager experience.
I guess basically what I'm asking is is there an equivalent of quartz for Linux?
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Apr 15, 2010
I just recently discovered flubox, it's a window manager right"? like gnome? or is it like compiz fusion? if so, it is better than compiz fusion? can i use it in conjunction with compiz fusion?
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Sep 4, 2009
The Gnome Window Manager worked fine with the ProSavage video card under Fedora 10. But after switching to Fedora 11, the Gnome Window Manager's response to graphics requests (such as selecting or moving a window) has been very slow and choppy, when running from the Live CD and from the Hard Drive. The hardware configuration is the following:
-S3 ProSavage video card
-AMD Athlon(tm) XP-M 1700+ 1.46 GHz
-2 GB RAM
After installing Fedora 11 to my Hard Drive, I installed the following packages, hoping that would fix the problem:
xorg-x11-drivers.i586
system-config-display.noarch
After installing the packages and restarting my machine, Fedora 11 detected ProSavage card. The 'savage' driver was loaded during startup (according to dmesg) and the ProSavage card appeared in the Display configuration, when I selected System|Administration|Display. Unfortunately, I didn't detect much improvement. Here's the entry from dmesg: [drm] Initialized savage 2.4.1 20050313 for 0000:01:00.0 on minor 0
As a comparison, I tried running the Fedora 11 Live CD on a box with an ATI Radeon video card and the Gnome Window Manager was smooth and responsive.
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Jan 16, 2011
Previous used Ubuntu Gnome with Compiz but for my basic spec intel macbook (4 years old) its a little too heavyweight. So for now Im back on my macbook with os x, but now considering going back to Linux. Im looking for a window manager that has the following properties:
Supports virtual desktop (need 4 minimum) Works well with multi monitors - can move an app with shortcut from one monitor to the other (on same virtual desktop) Can remember window position (i.e. open vim on 2 monitor) - however must coerce everything back to first screen when 2nd screen is unplugged Keyboard shortcut friendly Not too hard to install Works well with minimum hardware such as integrated graphics.
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Oct 18, 2010
I'm fairly decent Linux admin (ok, i've been paid to do it for the last 10 years now, maybe better than fair), however this problem has me stumped. Ever since i dist-upgraded to 10.10 playing flash videos longer than a minute will *sometimes* lock up my window manager. I am unable to click on other windows, or links in current window. If i open a terminal after starting the video i can still run commands in the terminal after its locked up, but not use the mouse in any form at all.
I can get to tty1 or any other console, kill flash, kill the browser, etc. Until i restart gdm or kdm it is still locked up however. I have tested with both kde and gnome. Tested with kdm and gdm. Tested with firefox and chrome (both use different installs of flash plugin - chrome brings its own). I created a new user on the system to test enviroment, no luck there. I eventually reinstalled yesterday with a fresh 10.10, and still I am having this problem. It *often* happens, but not always. Always on videos longer than about a minute at a guess, i have not timed it. Only ever happens on flash videos - ie ..... etc.
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Mar 12, 2011
Is there any way to get the name(s) of the file(s) selected in the window manager (gnome 2.32) in a bash script?
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