Debian Hardware :: Unusual System Failure - Hard Drive Bad Sector
Sep 11, 2015
It all started about a week after upgrading to Jessie and I had an unusual system failure, in that the CPU went to 100% usage and the hard drive light was on constantly. The keyboard and mouse were were non-responsive. Not having REISUB enabled I did the "stupid" thing and pushed the reset button on the computer. BAD BOY! As a result the computer would not boot and I had to use a live CD to format the drive and install Wheezy (I had the CD).
After installing Wheezy, everything worked well for about 3 days and then it did the same thing. Fortunately I had REISUB enabled and was able to reboot. I looked at the syslog and found a segfault with colord-sane and, after some research that suggested colord-sane might be a problem, I set UseSane=1 in colord.conf . Things seemed to be okay for about 4 days.
Well, after all that I had another problem today with booting. During boot I got an error message saying that there was some hard drive problem and that I needed to log in and run fsck, which I did . There were I believe 4 INODE errors that I was asked if I wanted to repair, to which I responded yes. After that the system booted correctly. After booting and entering the Gnome Classic desktop I looked at the Disk Utility and checked the SMART data. There is now 1 bad sector where before there were none. The drive is a one year old WD 500GB Velociraptor.
Don't know if this is relevant, but in the days before this latest "crash" I had downloaded about 8 movies using bittorrent. Could this have overtaxed the HDD?
I guess my questions are: When fsck "repaired" the disk would it have moved any data from the bad sector to a new location? What may have caused the sector to go bad ? Should I be buying a new hard drive?
The system seems to boot okay,at this time, so I assume that no critical system files were affected. Just curious as to how I should proceed. First is BACK UP my data. Got that !
One more thing I just thought of is that every time it "crashed", I was using LXDE.
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Jan 29, 2011
I have been researching the web for a program which will allow me to backup my entire hard drive so that I can restore my system if need be. I am however unsure which is the best one to use if I want to achieve this:Somehow I want to back up my hard drive containing my ubuntu system byte for byte so that if the hard drive were to fail I could simply go to the store, get a new hard drive, restore my backup and be up and running again without having to do any re installments of ubuntu or any other programs for that matter.
What is the easiest program that does this? I would like it to support incremental backup.rsync with the "Back in Time interface"?bacula?
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I just upgraded to Fedora 11. (I decided to give 64bit a try and I am extremely impressed.Not one problem at all! Kudos to the devs.) Whenever I log in I get the Palimpsest Disk Utility telling me two of my hard drives have a reallocated sector count.I have two 1.5Tb Seagate drives (model #: ST31500341AS). One is a backup of the other. On the first disk the disk utility tells me I have 22 reallocated sectors and 53 on the second. I've been on Google on discovered that there is no easy way to fix this and that a few bad sectors are okay but too many is a sign of imminent drive failure. This obviously concerns me because both my main drive and its backup are showing errors.
I went to Seagate's website and downloaded their diagnostic software (Seatools for DOS) and it passed both of these drives.So, questions: is it possible that Fedora is giving me a false positive? If not, is 22 and 53 sectors something to be concerned about? If so, should I contact Seagate and see if I can pull warranty on these drives? Is there a way to repair this damage?
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Jul 13, 2011
I have a flash drive that I regularly use on my laptop. If I unplug the flash drive without first unmounting it, I get a popup notification of a kernel failure (with diagnostics sent to kerneloops.org). Then, if I attempt to shut down the system via the console, it hangs on "The system is going down for halt/reboot NOW!" and doesn't actually shut down. Using Gnome's graphical System > Shut Down feature just logs me out and sends me to the login screen; the shutdown feature from there does nothing. I have to disconnect the power cord on the laptop in order to shut it down, and I don't like doing this.
System: 32-bit Debian Squeeze stable with kernel version 2.6.32-5-686, running Gnome 2.30.2, on an Acer Aspire 5570z.
I use Keepassx to store my passwords and keep the keyfile for my password database on the flash drive in question. I mention this just in case it helps determine what's causing the failure.
dmesg has quite a bit to say about this:
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Jan 15, 2010
As you are probably aware that WD released new drives ranging from 1TB to 2TB with native support for 4K sector size. And as most of stuff written online is regarding Windows and their support for 4K, my question is has anyone already started to use it under linux?
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I'm thinking about getting one of these drives:
1TB WD10EARS
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1.5TB WD15EARS
I'm using Debian Lenny so my questions are: is fdisk automatically recognizes that that drive is 4K drive, or it totally ignores it and partition is as 512byte one? In windows if no 4K support is available it would emulate it and performance would be downgraded. Do I need to enable any specific components in kernel so 4K drive is supported? I wanted to make sure there would be no data loss if I select 4K partition type.
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Upon installing Fedora on my Samsung NC10, I loved it. It feels stable and isn't cluttered with pointless apps. However I was immediately greeted by Palimsest Disk Utility warning me that the 'reallocated sector count' on my hard drive is going bad. I'm not too sure what any of it means but here's the statistics;
ID: 5
Attribute: Reallocated Sector Count
Current: 100
Worst: 100
Threshold: 10
Value: 1 sector
Status: failing
type: pre-fail
status: updates
It also says the temperature is 46 degrees yet the netbook's taken to being very, very hot around the touchpad and under the hard drive.
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I am trying to install Ubuntu to an external usb hard drive (WD Elements SE). I am also choosing to install the grub bootloader to this disk (/dev/sdb) because I do not want anything modified on the internal drive. The installation appears to go okay, but when I try to boot to the usb drive, I get the error, "no boot sector on usb device" and it immediately falls back to my interal drive. I have tried this installation with both 10.10 (amd64) and 11.04 (amd64). How can I fix this?
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I've been running Karmic happily for several weeks now. Today when I came home from work I was greeted by a notification informing me that me external hard drive may be failing due to the fact that it has many bad sectors. I am disinclined to believe this, due to the fact that the hard drive is less than 2 months old. It is a 1 terabyte seagate external drive. Does anyone know whether this is a bug in Karmic, or should I be backing up my data asap?
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May 26, 2010
I have (had?) a 36GB 10000rpm disc and a 500GB 7200rpm disc on my machine. I had Windows 7 and Fedora 12 installed on the faster disc with the larger one as storage (for videos etc etc). Yesterday I tried to install Fedora 13 on the fast one wiping off Windows 7 and Fedora 12 in the process. So I told Anaconda just to install on the smaller disc and the install seemed to be going perfectly until it had installed something over 900 of the 1200 or so of the packages it was supposed to be going to install when the monitor screen went blank (black) and the monitor could not detect any video and switched itself off. Trying to switch the monitor on again it still found nothing. Watching the hard-drive and DVD drive lights I waited until it had finished installing (when, of course, it also ejected the disc). I then tried to reboot the computer without the disc and it stopped at the motherboard flash screen as it did (and does) when I try to boot with the Fedora 13 install disc (and also with my old Fedora 12 install disc).
I have not touched the hardware in any way. Before I downloaded Fedora 13 (and after I'd backed everything up) I had opened the case to check how much dust was in the CPU cooler fins but since there was little I just very gently brushed and Hoovered - the machine worked for a couple of hours thereafter while I downloaded Fedora 13 burned it to a DVD and for most of the install as above.I updated the BIOS with ASUS EZ Flash and but it has not solved the problem.
Having disconnected the "faulty" disc I have installed Fedora 13 on the large slower 500GB disc and it works OK but if I connect the faster 36GB disc (before trying to boot, of course) I just get to the motherboard flash screen.If the disc failed why/how did the computer continue to install Fedora 13 from the DVD? Is there any significance in the monitor having gone blank?
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Now this laptop has gone through problems before. I don't know the extents because it's a family laptop and I rarely use it (it's super slow. It used to run Vista but now it runs XP and it's slow regardless). I think the hard drive may have been replaced at one point of another and it has had to be re installed numerous times before. And the way it is used leads me to believe that there is not a lot of space left in that hard drive. So that may have been the issue.
But I want to make sure it is a hardware problem and not something that will happen on the device I eventually decide to install Ubuntu on. How to understand why the hard drive would fail when the live CD doesn't actively use the hard drive, at least not the way it would if it had been installed in the hard drive.
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After installing reddit, my ubuntu stuck with high cpu usage and system load.
Code:
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
8634 reddit 20 0 12180 8960 2572 R 12.1 0.9 0:00.51 paster
8611 root 20 0 23756 17m 3816 R 11.8 1.7 0:00.99 paster
8613 reddit 20 0 23200 17m 3908 R 11.8 1.7 0:00.96 paster
8617 reddit 20 0 15072 11m 2688 R 11.8 1.1 0:00.69 paster
8620 reddit 20 0 14372 10m 2680 R 11.8 1.1 0:00.66 paster
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This error message appears in the varlog
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-> Yes
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Quote:
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# /etc/fstab
# Created by anaconda on Mon Sep 7 20:25:11 2009
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# Accessible filesystems, by reference, are maintained under '/dev/disk'
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