Debian Hardware :: NCQ (queued Trim) With Samsung 850 Pro SSD
Aug 29, 2015
I just bought a Samsung 850 Pro 250GB SSD drive and have since then found out that Linux has/had a faulty implementation of queued trim (which is a synonym for NCQ I think). I'm using kernel 4.1.0 (the default selected by the Debian 8.1 installer) and I've read that Samsung drives are blacklisted for queued trim by the recent kernels. However, the output of dmesg contains the following lines, with and without TRIM enabled for the drive (i.e. with or without the "discard" option in fstab for the drive):
Code: Select all[ 1.012287] ata6.00: 1953525168 sectors, multi 16: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32), AA
[ 1.013438] ata5.00: failed to get NCQ Send/Recv Log Emask 0x1
[ 1.013440] ata5.00: 488397168 sectors, multi 1: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32), AA
[ 1.015037] ata5.00: failed to get NCQ Send/Recv Log Emask 0x1
Since the depth is not 1 but rather 31, it looks like NCQ is enabled. I've disabled TRIM on the drive for now, and whether it's safe to enable TRIM or not.
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Apr 17, 2010
does Debian Lenny 5.0.4 stable supports SSD TRIM? If not, what package i need to add if i buy a new SSD and dont want to loose Hard Disk Performance over time?
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Jul 25, 2015
I'm looking for a way to launch "TRIM" commands to a SSD drive myself, from a c++ code I'm going to write, for flash erasing an SSD drive (and not to wait for others things that "should do it automatically in some circumstances if this or this, this and this have been enabled and [..]" but will never tell me if it worked or not
I know there is thousands of complicated ways to test and check if it worked, and also software that needs money to do so, that's why I just want to call myself the TRIM functions and read the return value (like true or false) in order to know if it worked !
Where I can find the c++ call that could permit me to do so ? I heard about the GLibC that gives a way to access every user space function related to Linux Kernel (poll, select and others) as standard c++ functions, I suppose that, if there is a way, it will be on the GLibC but how to find it ?
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Jan 22, 2010
I've a mailserver based on postfix. I'm queueing all the emails that have to be sent. After that I'm managing the queue with the output of mailq.
But in this way I'm just able to have this details of the queued mails: sender, receiver, size, time. There is a way to see also the subject of that emails?
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Apr 22, 2011
I have a netbook with a 150GB hard drive in it. A while ago I dropped my netbook and it wouldn't boot. Had a "failed command: READ FPDMA QUEUED" error at startup. So naturally I went and reinstalled. Reinstalling worked fine and I had my computer back. What I didn't account for was the fact that anytime it lost power and didn't shut down properly, I'd get the same error. I can't seem to recover my data either. Can't get any live disks to mount the hard drive after this error but for some reason I can still reinstall Crunchbang (essentially debian). Now I know there are bad sectors or something because when I try to use the disk that came with the netbook with an image of Windows XP that writes to the entire hard drive it throws an error but linux will avoid this I suppose when installing.
Now all of this is to say, being a laptop, several times I have left it on overnight when I fall asleep working or have to run into to town and it'll die and then I lose all my data, rather irritating. What's causing this error? What can I do to prevent it besides getting a new hard drive? If I can't prevent it from happening in the future is there a way to recover the data off the hard drive? Here's the section of the boot log that contains the error: [url]
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I had an ubuntu 11.10 installation that was no longer supported and was low on disk space, so I bought a new disk and installed debian wheezy on it and made it the boot disk.
The machine had/has a samsung e2020 monitor, and ubuntu and the new debian install both recognized it as 1600x900 resolution. I ran the proprietary nvidia driver with ubuntu but did nothing at all with the debian ... it just worked.
The power supply on the machine conked out and I took it ro be replaced and dug out an old, old machine to use while the newer one was gone. Debian would not install on it. But ubuntu 11.10 did, but displayed at 1024x768 on the samsung which it recognized as a 'VGA'. It was slow, but it worked. When the newer machine came back I reinstalled it ... but its debian 7.6, which used to know the samsung at 1600x900 resolution, now runs it at 1024x768, just as the old box had!
It must be some change made to some firmware in the samsung itself? It's not very pleasant.
I've tried to install the nvidia driver , but no luck there. I see now that debian uses something called 'nouveau' to run the proprietary nvidia chip, and I'm all for that ... but it used to be able to run it at 1600x900 and now it's forgotten how.
Here they are ...
Code: Select alljfl@wsdeb:~$ xrandr
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 4096 x 4096
VGA-1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm
1024x768 60.0*
800x600 60.3 56.2
848x480 60.0
640x480 59.9
[Code] ....
So I've gotten lucky, haven't I? I don't know if the display will still be ok when I restart ... so I'll save a copy of the above and try to script it, if I must, on reboot/relogin.
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Debian Stable LXDE
Samsung LD190N
NVIDIA GT 730
Trying to set to native resolution of 1360x768 with error "Failed to get size of gamma for output default":
Code: Select allerik@DRAGON:/var/log$ xrandr
xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1360 x 768
default connected 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
1024x768 61.00*
800x600 61.00
[Code] ....
Found these lines in /var/log/kern.log stating "unknown Kepler chipset":
Code: Select allJul 26 17:35:34 DRAGON kernel: [ 15.510099] nouveau ![ DEVICE][0000:03:00.0] unknown Kepler chipset
Jul 26 17:35:34 DRAGON kernel: [ 15.510148] nouveau E[ DEVICE][0000:03:00.0] unknown chipset, 0xb06070b1
Jul 26 17:35:34 DRAGON kernel: [ 15.510191] nouveau E[ DRM] failed to create 0x80000080, -22
Jul 26 17:35:34 DRAGON kernel: [ 15.510419] nouveau: probe of 0000:03:00.0 failed with error -22
Google search yielded this bug, which affected GT 730 graphics cards, apparently patched in Linux 3.19:
[URL] ....
Assuming this is the problem, does this mean I have to upgrade to Testing or install proprietary drivers?
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A relative of mine who uses Debian 6.0.2 has bought a Samsung HMX-H300 Camcorder which records videos in:
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I notice that the PC requirement for the camcorder's bundled software, apart from the usual Windows XP SP2/Vista/Windows 7, lists an Intel Core Duo 1.66 minimum CPU and an NVIDIA GeForce 8500 or higher or ATI HD 2600 series or higher.
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Is there a way to view the videos recorded in these formats with this hardware? Can they be converted to another format? Or should he consider buying a better computer?
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I am wondering if Ubuntu support ATA TRIM for SSD out of the box?
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Ok, Im likely to buy SSD 128gb drive and install Fedora 14 on it...but I have a question. If I go with ext4 will I get TRIM to work out of the box? Whats the status of kernel support on trim?
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I have an OCZ Vertex SSD...the 30GB variety. recently I upgraded my kernel to 2.6.33. I have read that that is all that is needed in order for trim to just start working. Is there a way that I can verify that TRIM is working?I'm debating getting the Vertex2 100GB model because I love my SSD now, but would love to have a little more storage space. I just don't want to buy it without TRIM working.
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For anyone who is not familiar with it, I am talking about the trim functionality in the 2.6.33 kernel for solid state drives.
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I followed this tutorial [URL] to enable my TRIM support and now my fstab looks like this:
Quote:
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier
# for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name
# devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
[Code].....
but when I follow the second half of the tutorial http://lightrush.ndoytchev.com/rando...bledandworking to check and make sure it's working I don't get all zeros like I'm supposed. I tried waiting a while like I saw in another tutorial as well and check it again.. Still random numbers and no zeros.
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There are not SSDs with TRIM support available in my region that fit into my laptop (1.8", IDE, ZIF). I'm running Ubuntu 10.10.
Most articles (or questions on superuser) I've come across concering TRIM (or the lack thereof) date back to 2009, when not many SSDs with TRIM support were available and OS support was still very fresh.
I'm interested in the current situation, but I couldn't find too much information about it.
What are currently the "best practices" for using an SSD without TRIM under Linux?
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Some sources state that HFS+ (the default-filesystem of Mac OS X) doesn't suffer as badly from lack of TRIM as other filesystems. How about linux filesystems? Are there filesystems that are better suited for SSDs without TRIM than others?
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