CentOS 5 Hardware :: Smartd - Offline Uncorrectable Sectors?
Feb 14, 2011
I recently installed two 160Gb hdds, and use these with striped LVM technics.
now I came across /var/log/messages these lines... :-/
Feb 14 16:50:44 centos55 smartd[4826]: Device: /dev/sdf, 34 Offline uncorrectable sectors
Feb 14 16:50:44 centos55 smartd[4826]: Device: /dev/sdg, 14 Offline uncorrectable sectors
To my understanding, this means that the disk is beginning to fail, and should be replaced..
Short story..I have about 35.000 images on these disks... (shared on network, as a samba share with PCs using Picasa) I've doing backup to 2 separate USB disk, and sometimes I connect a third usb disk and transfer to this aswell. I'm worried now that "some" of my image/data might have been lost - due to the 2 lines above. (checking if something is missing, of the 35.000 images is not easy.. and I have not made any txt file with all files/names/size og the images -...I see now that I also should create such a list, and not just take backup)
How critical is this "Offline uncorrectable sectors" and how can I check/do something about it ?
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Jun 15, 2011
Why after I boot from runlevel 5 and smartd services is started, I've got a black screen. I know that the GUI is exist but it looks like doesn't appear (black screen). I do following actions :
1. First I check /etc/sysconfig/desktop there is no data (empty), then I add to /etc/sysconfig/desktop this line :
DESKTOP=GNOME
DISPLAYMANAGER=GNOME
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May 13, 2011
I need help for analyzing why after I boot from runlevel 5 and smartd services is started, I've got a black screen.I know that the GUI is exist but it looks like doesn't appear (black screen).I do following actions : 1. First I check /etc/sysconfig/desktop there is no data (empty), then I add to /etc/sysconfig/desktop this line :
DESKTOP=GNOME
DISPLAYMANAGER=GNOME
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Jun 10, 2010
would anyone here happen have gotten one of these successfully up, running &, aligned on 5.5? i only want two partitions. one 2gig for swap and the rest mounted @ /. i've googled myself into complete and utter confusion.[Moderator edit: changed the title to something more informative
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Dec 29, 2010
I have 2 WD20EARS hard drives on the way (2 TB green WD disks with 4k sectors) and I'll be installing Centos 5.5 in RAID1 on them (2 partitions, one 16 GB / at the beginning and the rest in its own partition). I read the following thread: [URL]
and it seems that I might be having problems with the 4k sectors (Advanced Drive Format in WD lingo). I'm confused as to what exactly to do. I was thinking of downloading Fedora 14 Live CD and partitioning there and then switching to Centos 5.5 to install. Will that work? Seems I want the md 0.9 metadata because it doesn't have the space limit for me (2 TB) and it's stored at the end of the partition so it avoids alignment issues. Will I be able to make that happen with Fedora 14?
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Jul 11, 2010
i find many article to upgrade using online say yum update or yum upgrade but how to upgrade from centos 5.4 to 5.5 offline via dvd rom
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May 12, 2009
I am away for two weeks in a Internet free zone - unless I can get it back on - I would like to download the wiki, if possible to browse and try new things. I can update my comp, but will need to take it to a friends to connect.
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Feb 17, 2011
I have an offline computer with centos5.5 running on it. I want to do some tests on mediawiki or any other opensource tools. However, I can't access localhost from the browser because I don't have a webserver. How do I install apache or LAMP in general without the "yum" command? Where can I find all the dependencies needed?
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Jul 22, 2010
I am running memory test on SUSE, Memory test is just writing some patterns into a memory and reading it back in all CPU threads. After a while, when memory test is running in the background , I am trying to reset the system by echo b> /proc/sysrq-trigger command, Upon SUSE warm reset , I am seeing some UNCORRECTABLE MEMORY ERROR in model specific register (MSR : 0x421),
I am seeing this behavior on one of my server which has huge amount of memory.,Have you ever seen this UCECC error when SUSE generates warm reset when memory test in the background ?
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Jan 22, 2011
I am running OpenSUSE 11.2 (but I do not suspect that this is distribution-specific).Linux bach 2.6.31.8-0.1-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT 2009-12-15 23:55:40 +0100 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux.I am running in runlevel 3 while trying to sort this out.When smartd runs, it spins up my Western Digital drives from standby, but not my Samsung drive.Anyone know why blkid, edd_id and devkit-disks-pa are reading my standby drives? And are these reads sufficient to make drives spin up? I'm not sure what to look at next.
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Aug 13, 2010
I am using smartd for monitoring disk's status and i am using smartmontools-5.39.1.tar.gz package for compilation. I am able to compile and run it on HP servers(redhat). Now,i need to execute it for IBM RAID SERVERS too on which compilation is done but i need to configure smartd.conf for them so as to monitor all existing disks. (only DEVICESCAN works in conf file). Rest devices to monitor(eg. ata, sda devices) don't work at all. it is possible in IBM raid servers and if yes, then what configurations should i use.
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Sep 17, 2010
I have hdparm running and see the reading in gkrellm
.dev/sda = 36 celcius
in messages
smartd[2895]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed from 108 to 107
Where to change that smartd reading?
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Dec 16, 2010
I want to use smartd for monitoring my hard disk regularly. What is the interaction of smartd with the hard disk driver that is in use. Whether the hard disk driver should be smart enabled or only the hard disk. Will any one help me in this.
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Jun 28, 2011
I'm having some trouble understanding the smartd configuration options which go in /etc/smartd.conf. I've had smartd running for close to a year now, and read the manual page for smartd and smartd.conf several times, and I still can't get my head around it properly. This is what I use in smartd.conf:
/dev/sda -H -f -S on -o on -n standby,q
-s (O/../.././(00|06|12|18)|S/../.././11|L/../../(3|6)/21)
-m <nomailer> -M exec /usr/sbin/smartd_mailer
The above works fine (I use a custom script because I use exim). However, I had two failing hard-disks on two different machines (sector pending attribute) - but I would only receive warning emails if I restarted the machines - not when the periodic tests were being performed. I have a number of questions, if any of you would like to share some light on this:
1. It is not clear from the manual page how the monitoring and alerting mode works. Do I get an initial email when I start smartd if something is wrong, and then no other warning email after each scan, even if there is a fault, unless the fault goes worse?
2. Can I force it to send me warning emails after each test (offline, online, short, long etc.) if the fault condition is still there, even if it hasn't gotten worse?
3. There seem to be a variety of parameters monitored. I was thinking that if I monitor bad sectors, and the hdd temperature - it should be enough to warn me when the hard-disk is failing? Would the -a switch in smartd.conf cover these?
4. I don't understand the difference between monitoring and logging in relation to alerts? Do I get alerts only if I log things?
5. Do I understand correctly that the -p and -u switch would warn me of *any* changes in SMART attributes, even if they don't represent risk of failure?
6. Is there a way of finding out if the scheduled tests (offline, long, short etc.) have been performed?
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Oct 27, 2010
2 months ago, I built a dedicated backup server using 4 2TB SATA drives for software RAID5 (6TB total). A few days ago, smartd sent out mail saying it found an unreadable sector on one of the drives. I ran selftest using smartctl and the error persisted. So far, neither software RAID nor ext4fs running on top of the RAID volume have reported errors.
MOST OPTIMISTIC: It is normal to have a few bad sectors among billions. Software RAID takes care of alternatives. Keep using the system until RAID spits a more serious warning in the future.
MOST PESSIMISTIC: It is a really bad sign to lead a disaster. No good disk drive should have bad sectors especially when it is only 2 months old. The error is simply not detected by software RAID and ext4. Replace the drive immediately and return the bad drive to the supplier.
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Oct 9, 2009
No matter if it is safe mode or regular the computer stops booting at Starting smartd I installed wine and samaba files (through Yast) before I restarted the computer and I was looking in FSTAB to get my HD's working. I didn't make any changes to FSTAB (I didn't even save the file).
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Sep 7, 2010
I have some errors on my drive and I fear it may be faulty. However there are a few things I would like to try before replacing it through the manufacture or buying a new drive of my own seeing as this is a brand new computer.
Here is my computer and drive:
Acer 5251-1513 Laptop
Toshiba MK2565GSX
Running Fedora 13...now
Here is what is going on. Tried several version of Ubuntu 10.4 (studio, 64bit, 32 bit) and was having many errors during startup and having to press F to fix. Then I lost something with Gnome and the GUI would not function, and I did not know how to replace it. Tried a few other distros but could not get them to work (mostly on my part I am sure.) Then after some forum talk, thought it might just be Ubuntu unable to handle my drive. Now on Fedora 13 and a warning comes up every time I startup. "Disk has many bad sectors"
In the disk utility under the SMART Data it has 2 of the following warnings:
5- Reallocated Sector count..with a value of 72 sectors
197 Current Pending Sector count...with a value of 35 sectors
Total Bad Sectors 108.
The next day that went up to 110
I have used Fsck several times through a live CD, but the problem persists. Trying to understand bad blocks and how to write them to a file?
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Aug 3, 2010
I have an Acer tiny desktop using laptop components and I want to replace its small laptop hdd running Vista with a Kingston SSDNow V Series Boot Drive 30GB and install Ubuntu, since it will support TRIM. I am aware of the current issues on some new hard drives with 512 vs. 4k sector sizes and the necessity to align sectors for those drives. And I know I've seen some posts or discussion of aligning sectors for SSD's.
I'll be doing more searching for info on this, but my previous searches on the 4K sector alignment issue for the new WD hdd's on linux were confusing. Does anyone have definitive information on the necessity of aligning 4k sectors on current Linux kernels, or on whether aligning sectors is necessary for SSD's?
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Sep 29, 2010
I recently buy a Corsair F60, and F14 (and F11) said there is MANY bad sectors on my SSD. Is it a smartctl bug ? how can I confirm or infirm that ?
[root@localhost ~]# smartctl /dev/sdc -a
smartctl 5.39.1 2010-01-28 r3054 [x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-10 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net
[code]....
After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.
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Feb 20, 2011
I have a massive ZFS array on my fileserver. Whenever a disk reports bad sectors to smartmon, I order a replacement, and I shelve the failing one.
And by "shelving the failing one", I mean that I give it a low-level format if applicable, or a destructive badblocks run to possible claim spare sectors to replace the bad ones, then use it to dump my DVDs (and lately BluRays) on, so that I can use it with my HTPC and bring it with me when going to my friends to watch movies. It's just a really easy and portable way to watch movies with XBMC. I have the stuff on pressed discs already, so I'm not dependent on their reliance, and the dying drive just gets a hospice life serving as quick-access media storage. Keeping in mind Google's reports that drives are 39x more likely to die within 60 days after their first SMART error, I'm expanding that period by the fact that these drives mostly remain on their shelves and are only plugged into the SATA bay once or twice every year.
I'm just saying this to make clear that I'm not confused about these drives dying, and I'm not looking to elongate their lives ;)
So. Sometimes these drives, after a badblocks run, simply claim fresh sectors from the spare pool, but sometimes there aren't any left, and I face the fact that there are bad sectors in my FS. That's not a problem if you use one of a set of linux filesystems, as mkfs.* often takes a badblocks list as input. But seeing as I sometimes bring a drive or two to my girlfriend's (Mac) or one of my friends (usually Windows), I've decided to use NTFS for these things. Up untill now, when a drive had unrelocatable bad sectors, I've just written data to it, re-read it, and files that were bad were put in a "BAD_SECTOR_FILES" folder on the drive.
Sure, it works, but it would be really nice to be able to just mark those sectors bad instead. It's a lot of hassle the other way around.
So I read some posts, of which most quickly switch subject to the often accurate one of "replace your drive!", and some suggest spinrite, but really, I don't see why I should pay that much money for such a trivial task.
The alternative is to use ext3, but I'd like to hear if someone knows how I can feed badblocks output to mkfs.ntfs, so that the bad blocks aren't used. Or if there are other tools (I could use Windows in a VM) that do the same. I'm confused about chkdsk, it seems the bad sectors thing is FAT only?
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Jan 10, 2010
I have some bad sectors on the primary HD and want to move everything to a new HD. What would be the steps to do this. I have 5 running websites on the server. The HD are the same make and model. My current HD setup is
Code:
1 Linux LVM 232.65 GB 1 30370 LVM VG server1
2 Extended 243.17 MB 30371 30401
5 Linux 243.17 MB 30371 30401
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Jan 20, 2010
I recently got a bad virus that wouldnt let me reinstall Windows so I figured I would install Ubuntu and give it a go, but now it says my hard drive has "many bad sectors" a quick Google search shows many ways to fix this in Windows, but how do I do it in Ubuntu?Easily since Im just getting the hang of things.
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Feb 17, 2010
Since a few days all of my computers (3) running Ubuntu 9.10 report on startup that my external drive has "lots of bad sectors".I have checked this disk on Windows XP with chkdsk and with the SeaTools diagnostic tool dowloaded from Seagate. Both report no problems.Does anyone else suspect these Ubuntu "bad sector" warnings are unreliable?
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Jan 15, 2011
having problems loading any OS because of bad sectors. will only load off live cd 9.10
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Mar 31, 2011
I used to have windows xp. But recently I started having a message at startup telling me that my disk might be failing and I should run the test (which would crash and reboot th laptop). Then after a while windows wont even start. So I tried to use ubuntu netbook live from a usb and it is working fine ! I can even access all my data on the hard disk, although it is telling me that the hard disk is failing and that it has 1024 bad sectors. I have only one hard disk and one partition (120 GB). Can I just install ubuntu and somehow block the bad sectors? (I don't want windows anymore) and is there any way I could keep my old data on the hard disk without backing it up (it is not really important btw).
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May 24, 2011
Just came up my mind about repairing the bad sectors using software.Does using a software really repair the bad sectors in the hard disk?
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Jun 19, 2010
I've just added a second disk to one of my computers. It is a 500GB SATA. It is the second drive according to the BIOS. Fedora calls it /dev/sdb. So far so good. This box is running Fedora 13 final. Never any problems until the addition of the new disk. Palimpsest says that this disk has a LOT of bad sectors. This disk is a storage drive. I want to address the problem but don't know what to do first. My thought is to rsync all the data to my external 250GB disk bedore I do anything else but I'm mot sure if I should just yet. Maybe I should run some diagnostics on the drive? If so, what? How about the tools Disk Utility offers? Should I use the Smart Utilities? What other Linux tools are available and are they reliable? Maybe I should install XP on the main disk and use Windows' disk tools? If I should lose all data it wouldn't be the end of the world but I'm not sure how "in sync" the 2 storage drives actually are.
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Apr 17, 2010
I did set up a new server (with mail, apache and lots of other stuff) and was not aware that the new harddisks of type WD10EARS-00Y5B1 were using 4KB sectors internally. The problem became visible after going live because of the lousy performance of the harddisk drives.
Present situation: openSUSE 11.2 i586, 4 GB RAM, 2x 1TB HDD
Code:
Disk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x000efdd0
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I already did re-partition /dev/sdb with parted-2.2 (compiled from source) and set the alignment starting with sector 64 (instead of the default 63) making sure that the sector count of every partition divides by 8. Now comes the tricky part: I must partition /dev/sda as well. I can backup everything to /dev/sdb. What is the recommended course of action here? Make sdb active and boot it? That would give me all the time I need to deal with sda. Then reverse again. Any backup of /dev/sda will be outdated soon (running system)Rescue DVD only offers parted-1.9.0
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Sep 12, 2010
I was looking in the disk utility and my primary slave has a few bad sectors, is there a way to fix this? I have attached a screen shot.
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Oct 28, 2010
Question 1. Does gparted etc. just write to the MBR? Question 2. Is this the only record of the partition table? Question 3. How do i find the sectors that the partitions occupy?
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