Ubuntu Installation :: Install 9.10 With WinXP Using NTLDR As Bootloader?
Jan 14, 2010
I first installed 9.10 from 9.10 Live CD to my Thinkpad X200 selecting not to install its bootloader thinking I could use NTLDR. That did not work at all. Tried bootpart, starting 9.10 from LiveCD to reinstall grup... I gave up and in WinXP, deleted the 9.10 partition and its SWAP partition.
I reinstall 9.10 again into the now freed space.This time I selected to install the bootloader but to /dev/sda5.After completing the installation,I rebooted to WinXP and used bootpart to create the necessart ubuntu.bin and instructions in boot.ini.That did not work. I went into 9.10 live CD again and use dd command to extract the fir 512bytes from /dev/sda5 and place it in a USB drive as ubuntu.bin.Rebooted into WinXP and put this new ubuntu.bin into C:. All I get when booting into Ubuntu is a blank screen...
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Nov 7, 2010
I have a major problem installing opensuse 11.3 on my computer( hp pavilion dv6).I downloaded openSUSE-11.3-GNOME-LiveCD-x86_64 from software.opensuse.org: Download openSUSE 11.3 and made a live usb.I'm a newbie at using linux infact i never used another operating system beside windows.Now i have installed windows 7 (on c disk 100gb).My first problem when i am trying to install opensuse is that he dosn't automatic choose to make my partitions so i have to do it manualy.I was searching how to make it the best way so i desited to make 4 partitons one for ' /boot' one for ' / 'one for '/home' and a swap partition/In windows7 i made 4 new partitons
3:10 gb for /boot
4:10 gb for/
5:70 gb for /user
6:10 gb for /swap
My first question is :Is this right to make 4 paritions in windows (opensuse can't format or resize my partitions it just can edit it ) so it's my only way to make partitions( If this is wrong how can i make partitions then)
My second question is how to change the bootloader configurtation because everytime when ii try to install opensuse it stops at about 96% and it says to reconfigure the bootloader options.
If i skip this i get the folowing message
=== System Checking ===
Checking for /usr/bin/chroot binary... Passed
Checking for chroot directory /mnt... Passed
Checking for chroot directory content (bin
boot
Checking for binary /mnt/bin/ls... Passed
Trying to chroot... Failed
This is worth reporting a bug at url.
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Sep 12, 2010
I just installed Ubuntu Remix 10.04 on my wifes MSI U100 netbook. I did a dual boot just in case she had to get into Windows for something. I let the install automatically partion (did the side by side option). Anyway, Ubuntu works fine and imported all her documents and stuff. Problem is Windows XP won't boot. The first time I tried to boot Windows XP I got a message saying the hardware had changed and I had to select safe mode, normal boot, last known good, etc... I booted normally. I got the splash screen followed by a quick flash of BSOD and a reboot. I does this no matter how I try to boot Windows (safe, command prompt, etc). Anyone have any idea what the problem is?
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Jan 11, 2010
I have 2 Hard drives, the original 30GBs with Windows XP on it, My son put 2nd hard drive into pc as slave (400GB), no problems, WinXP recognised 2nd drive. This was all a way to give 'good ole Mum' a chance to muck about with Linux.Got a Linux Format Mag with Ubuntu 9.10 on it, amongst others, but this one I knew from previous use. I have installed it on the 2nd hard drive, not sure if I correctly (manually) partitioned but I put ( I believe) a home partition, a swap partition, left ( so I thought) a 3rd partition space, and said install. Ubuntu runs fine and see the small HD with WinXP but WinXP doesnt see the HD with Ubuntu, and I wanted to use the 3rd partition for the WinXp as I need to use that for Grant writting I do for not for profit organisations govt depts that I apply for grants from are MS freaks, that said, all runs ok but what have I done that wont let WinXP see to utilise the 3rd partition. Be kind, I have a load of senior moments these days
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Oct 23, 2010
I have some proprietory softwares installed on WinXP so it is very important for my work that it is up and running.
I performed a FULL INSTALL from the Live-CD (10.10) and installed grub on the windows partition.
Now whenever I try to select the Windows option in the Grub menu, the screen goes blank and it gets me back to the Grub menu.
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Mar 26, 2011
I am installing version 10.10. Does it matter where I install the bootloader? There are selections for the entire device and each partition. I have Windows 7 on /dev/sda1 and Ubuntu on /dev/sda3. The last time I tried this I couldn't go back to Windows 7 even after using the grub-update commands.
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Sep 1, 2011
I have seen multiple others with this problem, I now have it too. I had Ubuntu 10.10 installed on my entire disk, then I installed Fedora 15 with it. The resizing-the-disk went smoothly, everything is great, but now when I turn on my machine, I get no grub, no boot loader, nothing. I just get thrown right into Fedora. I saw on a few other posts that if you manage to get into Ubuntu, you can open a terminal and type something along the lines of sudo grub update, and that would do the trick. The only issue is that I can't even get into ubuntu. I also was told that if you boot from a livecd you can edit the boot config, or view it, or something. I'm pretty new to all this "bootloader grub" jazz, and am hopelessly confused. How do I make it so that upon startup, I am able to choose between Ubuntu and Fedora?
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Jul 29, 2011
I am trying to install ubuntu 11.04 from a live cd on a recently formatted 80gb hard drive. Ubuntu seemed to hang and become unresponsive after waits exceeding 40 minutes. As I had some difficulty creating the media, burning the iso to disc, I attempted to install a couple other distros, mint and xubuntu, to see if they worked. These displayed the NTLDR missing message and prompted me to restart.
PC: pentium 4 2.93 ghz processor
80 gb hd
512mb RAM
lite on dvd/cd burner
There is a working 150gb hd with xp on it set as the #2 hd in bios. I would like to install a linux-based os on the smaller drive, preferably ubuntu, but am growing a little impatient. Is there a bootloader or anything I will need to install, and what should be the final configuration of the two hard drives once I get another os installed on the hd dedicated to it?
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Oct 10, 2010
I dual boot Ubuntu, and Windows 7 on my WD Scorpio Black 1TB hard drive (if the HD matters). I burned a CD to install Ubuntu 10.10 (32bit Desktop). The installation was going smoothly until I got an error that it cannot install the Bootloader to /dev/sda, I tried all the partitions under that (/dev/sda1, 2, 3). And NONE of them worked. When it rebooted it went to "grub recovery" where I could no enter anything.
I had to reinstall Ubuntu 10.04 to get my computer back and it's now dual-booting Windows 7 and Ubuntu 10.04 again. This is a major issue and it's completely preventing me from installing Ubuntu 10.10 on my machine.
I have been using Ubuntu almost since it began, and I've never had an issue like this before. I do a clean install of every major new release. I want Ubuntu 10.10
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Nov 6, 2010
I have a Dell 17R Dual Booted with Win7 and Ubuntu 10.04.I had problems getting online via Wired and/or Wireless.Ubuntu 10.10 is up, running, and updated. Broadcom Corp 4727rev 01 Wireless not detected [URL].The solution involved the installing of Ubuntu 10.10. However, now after a complete shut down I cannot boot into Win7 anymore. The boot loader recycles to the selection screen and I can go back to Ubuntu 10.10 but not Win7.
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Dec 3, 2010
I just installed the 10.10 version of Ubuntu and while doing so I also deleted the whole partition on the harddrive. While I where installing the OS. I got this message:
Sorry. An error occurred and it was not possible to install the bootloader at the specified location.
(Here I get to choose either if I want to choose a different place to put the bootloader on. Or if I want to continue without a bootloader or if I would want to cancel the installation.) I am currently writing from the live CD. And If I try to boot without the CD. The computer tells me that there is no bootable device. I have tried to reinstall Grub. I have also tried to reinstall the whole Ubuntu 10.10. I have also tried to install Ubuntu 10.04. Both with the original CD.
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Jan 6, 2011
I'm trying to install 10.10 x32 server, on a machine with the HW Raid-5. And install fails on Bootloader setup :/, so I continue with installation, and everything finishes fine.When machine boots, it obviously (since grub failed to install) says insert bootable media, and press any key. So I boot from the CD, goto rescue mode, installer environment:
>>mount /dev/mapper/server-root /mnt
>>grub-installer --root_directory=/mnt /dev/mapper/server-root
Wrong number of args: mapdevfs <path>
I tried to install OS multiple times, from full automatic HDD partition setup, to manual, and it always fails to install grub . I can mount, read/write /dev/mapper/server-root partition, and the contents of the partition looks like a valid OS.
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Dec 18, 2010
Background information: I need to install WinXP on my computer to use Spectraview II software for monitor profiling. Tried it under Wine, didn't work...thought about virtualization, but Graeme Gill (creator of Argyll) said that probably wouldn't work:
Quote: The problem is that emulators often don't implement hardware details properly or at all. There's no standard way on Linux to read/write the DDC, so there is no surprise that wine doesn't emulate MSWin's API's for this. It's doubtful that any of the VM's do either. USB can be an issue too, and some instruments may not work in an emulated environment. I already had Ubuntu 10.10 installed, so thought I'd try installing WinXP after, then recovering the MBR. Lots of headache.
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Jul 15, 2009
I am trying to load RHEL 5.2 into VMWare 6.5 running on (dare i say it) XP SP2 As soon as it boots from DVD I get "NTLDR is Missing".Does anyone know if this a RHEL related problem, a VMWare problem, or an XP problem? I just need pointed in right direction.
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Sep 16, 2010
I tried to help my friend install Ubuntu 10.04 side-by-side with Windows XP on his Acer Aspire One netbook.Unfortunately, the installation process came to a standstill and it quit due to "unexpected errors". The second time I started the installation, I realized that the option for installing side by side was gone and that I could not mount the C: partition on Ubuntu. The error message is listed below:====================BEGIN ERROR MESSAGE======================Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 12: Failed to read last sector (299982847): Invalid argument
HINTS: Either the volume is a RAID/LDM but it wasn't setup yet,
or it was not setup correctly (e.g. by not using mdadm --build ...),
or a wrong device is tried to be mounted,
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Feb 5, 2010
I am helping my pal to get into Debian (yes first timer).He is running W7 on a 500G SATA HDD and he has another 250G SATA HDD that he wants Debian to go to.Will Debian install grub on the master bootloader even if the installation is going on a separate hard drive?I have dual boot before but on the same hard drive.
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Feb 22, 2010
I have a new computer with two 500 gb hard drives which I use in raid 0. I tried to install Ubuntu 9.10 off the live cd but it was unable to partition the raid and kept failing. I was then told top use the alternate cd. I use that and my raid is detected, partitioned, and the system is installed. However now I cannot install a boot loader as I get continuous errors. Right now I am left with no ideas with what to do. I have Ubuntu installed to my hard drives just no way of accessing it.
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May 30, 2010
I've been using Ubuntu on my servers, deskto PC and laptop. But this time I decided to give a try for Fedora 13. Earlier my tests failed because of nVidia driver installation for every kernel update was so pain for me. Fedora's Live CD is quite stripped. It has good tools installed but it's missing OpenOffice.org. That should be mostly for demostration to Windows users.Installation with Live CD is straight forward even I haven't tried with Windows partitions (shrink or so). Ubuntu can be installed inside Windows drive (into loop file) without shrinking partitions. I don't know if Fedora can do the same.
But issues what I have got even before getting in... Disk partition tools are very great. But when I tried to install Fedora into LVM without using separate /boot partition - that failed. I am using Ubuntu's GRUB2 and it can boot from LVM root directly. And I thought Fedora-13 can do the same. I have been installing Red Hat Enterprise Linuxes many many times. And there is an option to skip bootloader installation. Why it is missing on Fedora? I just want Fedora into LVM without anything else. Ubuntu's GRUB2 can boot from Fedora's /boot -directory even it's on LVM. If I get Fedora installed.
So error what I get trying to install Fedora...Harddrive sda has just one big LVM partition, nothing else. Ubuntu GRUB2 is on MBR.I have just one 10Gb LV for Fedora, existing /home and swap. Plus Ubuntu's own root partition what I don't need with Fedora.partitioning program is completed as I like but then I get error message: Bootable partitions cannot be on a logical volume. I have tried to install using Live CD, DVD with graphics and text modes. None of them gives me option to skip installing bootloader. Another option I had on my mind is that I could try to use USB memory stick to have /boot. But I'm not sure if it works and installer will overwrite my existing GRUB2 on sda. If it works then I could move /boot -stuff into LVM and tell Ubuntu's GRUB2 to boot from Fedora's root LVM.
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Oct 11, 2010
I'm currently in the process of installing F13 from a LiveCD into a dualboot configuration with Windows 7 and I used 80 gigs of unpartitioned space for the install.The step after it creates the boot, swap etc partitions is to install the bootloader.Should I install it to the MBR or to the first sector of the boot partition? What are the pros and cons of both?
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Feb 23, 2010
I have installed Ubuntu 9.10 on my system. At the time I wasn't very familiar with boot loaders and I just left everything default at installation. Now I have the following setup on the hard drive:
- MBR: GNU GRUB
- Partition 1 (dev/sda1) Sony Vaio Recovery Partition
- Partition 2 (dev/sda2) Windows XP Home Edition
- Partition 3 (dev/sda3) Extended Partition
- (dev/sda5) Ubuntu 9.10
- (dev/sda6) Swap Space
I want to replace GNU GRUB in the MBR with NTLDR and add Linux to the NTLDR boot menu but from what I understand I have to install GNU GRUB to the Linux Partition first so NTLDR can chain load it to boot Ubuntu. I have heard of using the ' grub-install ' command in which from what I understand I should use it like this ' grub-install /dev/sda5 ' but I'm not sure.
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Jul 20, 2010
i don't remember what i did with this old lap top of my, i remember i installed linux on it, then reformatted the HD to NTFS trying to installed windows. I believed it was successfully installed and never used it since. just recently, i brought it out and want to install ubuntu. now when i turn it on, it just give me NTLDR is missing error message.i have tried putting the window XP cd in, using the ubuntu live cd, tried the "ultimate boot cd" trying to erase the whole drive and repartition.
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Nov 15, 2009
I have the Ubuntu 9.10 installed and another partition where I want to have Fedora.
But I would like to install it without messing up with the Grub 2 bootloader that I already have there.
Is it possible to install Fedora and then add it to Grub 2? If so, how can I do that?
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Apr 16, 2011
I am trying to install Fedora 14 with the LILO bootloader. The live installation disc does not let you select a bootloader during installation. how to install with GRUB2, that will work as well
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Aug 3, 2010
I just upgraded two 11.2 installations. One I easily managed from the dvd the other I had to install anew as the cd didn't offer the possibility of upgrading. While I appreciated the many improvements in desktop stability I found I am non very satisfied of the installer.
It became minimal and just does what IT wants and not what I want anymore. I miss the possibility of choosing desktops, programmes and settings during installation. Most of all I miss the possibility of choosing the bootloader and its location. I have a multi boot multi disk machine and I prefer to modify entries by hand so i never install the loader but add the new entry in the grub but this was not possible and it made just a mess erasing completely all other entries....
Booting has always been a great problem for one of my machines and I'm not going to upgrade it if thisi is the result. Is there a way of going back to the old options (no loader?) Why are the new installer always "easier" but less flexible for a user who's not geek but not even a newbie? Why does it have always to be more "Windows like"
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Mar 22, 2010
Finally got Ubuntu installed on my machine and now I can not get windows to boot from GRUB.My windows partition is located at /dev/sda2 and here is my menu.lst file.When I reboot my computer GRUB will not load. It always gives me Error 21. The only way to get it to run is to turn the computer off and then back on.When selecting Windows 7 from the boot list the first time or two it will just send me back to the list after a brief blank screen then around the 3rd time I select it, it tells me NTLDR is missing.
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Jan 20, 2011
I need to know how to get fix my windows xp system without messing with Ubuntu. I can get inti Ubuntu but on windows it says NTLDR is missing dose anyone know what I can do because I still use windows once in awhile so it needs to work.
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Dec 9, 2009
I've installed Fedora to dual-boot with Ubuntu. I'm using /dev/sda1 for Ubuntu, and /dev/sda3 for Fedora. Unfortunately, I unchecked the "Install boot loader" checkbox, so I still have the Ubuntu boot loader but no way to boot Fedora. While still logged into the Fedora Live CD, how can I install the Fedora boot loader to /dev/sda3 and set it up to chainload from Ubuntu's GRUB menu? (I'm thinking it would be 'grub-install /dev/sda3' as root, and then just edit /dev/sda1:/boot/grub/menu.lst, but I'd like confirmation.)
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Dec 27, 2010
Six months ago I installed Ubuntu 10.04 to my otherwise Win XP work laptop. I decided to continue to use Windows' boot loader as primary: I told the Ubuntu installer to put grub2 onto a separate partition, then used dd to copy the first 512 bytes into a file in my Windows C partition, then edited boot.ini to link to it - its a common technique that is described in many support forums and blogs. This worked fine, and continued to work until a few weeks ago. One day I chose the Ubuntu option at the Windows boot loader and got a blinking cursor at top left of screen and no grub2 menu. I was able to use SuperGrub2Disk to discover and boot from my grub2 install - so that didn't appear to be broken. I finally fixed it by dd'ing a fresh copy of the first 512 bytes of my /boot partition over to the Windows C partition. So somehow the Windows boot loader decided it no longer liked my original dd'ed file.
The only things I can think of that might have changed and caused this to happen are (on Ubuntu) an update to security packages using the graphical update manager that pops up (I rarely do a command line apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade and certainly not in this time frame) and (on Windows) a Windows Update - as it is a work laptop I tend to take whatever essential updates it suggests. As you can see I managed to fix the problem. However does anybody have any similar experience or any explanation why this may have happened? Could an over-zealous Windows Update have caused it?
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Nov 11, 2015
I have an issue after the installation of debian 8.2 on an usb flash drive:
I had debian 8.2 and windows 8.1 running on a single SSD. Everything was fine. I wanted to install a second debian on a 32gb USB flash drive as a live system. After the installation I am not able to boot my debian (SSD) without the flash drive plugged in. I only get a grub rescue prompt. Booting windows still works. It is also possible to boot both debian systems if the USB drive is plugged in.
So it seems to me, that the debian bootloader was accidently installed to the USB flash drive and the original bootloader on the SSD does not work properly anymore. I used a netinst image from a second USB flash drive to install debian to the first USB flash drive.
Update fdisk output:
/dev/sda1 2048 2050047 2048000 1000M Windows recovery environment
/dev/sda2 2050048 2582527 532480 260M EFI System
/dev/sda3 2582528 4630527 2048000 1000M Lenovo boot partition
/dev/sda4 4630528 4892671 262144 128M Microsoft reserved
/dev/sda5 4892672 223840255 218947584 104,4G Microsoft basic data
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Mar 1, 2010
I am also wanting to install on a laptop which is about 2 years old. I get the error message "ntldr is missing" when it boots up and doesnt recognise the disc even though it is set to boot from cd first!
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