Ubuntu / Apple :: Firewire On IMac G3 No Longer Working?
Aug 21, 2010
I'm not sure if I have a hardware or OS problem. Firewire on my old G3 iMac has stopped working. Previously I've used a scanner and an external hard drive (Iomega eGo) without problems while running Lucid. Now neither works with the iMac, though they both work when connected to a PC. Both the PC and the iMac are running the latest versions of Lucid.
I can't tell when the problem began since I don't use the scanner or hard drive that often. I did try booting using the live 10.04 CD for PowerPC and had no joy with either device.The LCD on the hard drive lights when connected to the firewire port so power is coming through. The scanner has its own power supply.Checking with lsmod I see that both the modules ieee1394 and ohci1394 are loaded.I suspect it's a problem with the hardware. Does any one have an idea how I can go about verifying that? I'd hate to bin an old faithful without first checking everything out.
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Apr 18, 2010
I have sound using my headphone without any trick but my internal speakers don't work.
Do some manage to make them work on an iMac 27" i7 and Lucid Lynx?
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Apr 21, 2010
I'm making some tests with the internal microphone and I've managed to record sounds but the results have a very low volume. I mean, I have to put the input volume to the max and I still get a pretty bad result. I've checked too the input volume in the alsamixer but no way, can't get better results.
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Jun 23, 2010
When I first had partitioned, and formatted appropriately, I installed the newest version of Ubuntu available (Time of posting 10.4), on the partition made with bootcamp, rebooted into Linux with rEFIt Now once I booted into 10.4 I got to the desktop, it started asking me about restricted hardware drivers, so I went into System > Administration > Hardware Drivers, It then searched for the drivers, it found the STA driver, and the B43 driver, I am unable to allow both. So I went on to try ndiswrapper, I downloaded it off another pc, compiled and installed on the iMac. then I got the driver off the Leopard install disk, put that on my flash drive, extracted the files from the installer, put that on the flash drive, then I went back over to the machine in question, copied the file to the desktop, I used the cd command to navigate to the folder, then ran ndiswrapper -i bmcwl6.inf, I made sure that the inf and sys files were in there, so I didn't know what was going on exactly.
So then I went into the software sources, and enabled the cd as a software source, then went into Synaptic, and installed the drivers, it said the install was successful, however when I go back to enable it, will still refuse to activate, I have looked all around for solutions, I have even checked out other threads on this matter. The funny thing seems to be, is that everyone, or almost everyone who has this card on their computer, are upgrading to 10.04, when it worked on a previous version.
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Jul 21, 2010
After booting up from the cd, I noticed that neither my wireless keyboard or wireless mouse were working. after a while a different screen came up that allowed me to use my keyboard arrows to choose "try ubuntu without affecting your system". So I choose that option and got to the desk top but then i had no use of the mouse or the keyboard at all. I then ejected the disc by quickly pushing the power button in the back of the iMAC and once the disk was out was able to restart the computer.Now i am in a black screen that says that there is no bootable drive.I know about the option key at start up, but that is apparently not working because my keyboard is not being recognized
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Oct 19, 2010
I have an IMAC (I7) that is running CENTOS 5.4 on and need to be able to mount a fireire disk automatically when plugged in. We can do this manually running: fdisk -l then choosing the correct disk and mounting it
mount /dev/scd1 mnt The problem we have is that this machine needs to go in a client office on the other side of the world and we need it to be idiot proof. I need to be able to autodetect and mount the disk like you would if it was running OSX. Obviously the hardware works, just the automount or autodetect does not work.
We've already commented out the blacklist in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-firewire Is there some other setting I need to automount the disk. Alternatively I'll have to write an application to perform the fdisk and mount as root, which I don't particularly want to do.
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Feb 8, 2010
I have Karmic Koala 9.10 working (near) perfectly on my iMac7,1, as identified by
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NOTE: See below for Lucid 10.04 update to these instructions
IMPORTANT: You need to complete the installation procedure while connected to internet via the WIRED network. Then you can enable the wireless by installing the restricted drivers, after the install is complete. Also the fglrx ATI Video driver is effortlessly installed via Menu > System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
The sound card gave me some trouble, as it is an Intel HDA Model, reported as 'Codec: Realtek ALC889A' by
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It shows up in lspci as:
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It sounded rather tinny at first, when I tried mbp3 and other model names. Then I added the following line to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf :
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After reboot, my sound is full and can be put much louder than before. Jack detection works. Some people might have to leave out the power saving options. See below.
dmesg reports:
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Sources consulted are mostly the kernel documentation ( Enter into the terminal: sudo apt-get install linux-doc
The relevant info can be found in HD-Audio-Models.txt.gz and HD-Audio.txt.gz in /usr/share/doc/linux-doc/sound/alsa )
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Jul 26, 2010
I have successfully installed ubuntu on a seagate goflex hd and can get it to boot with using a usb cable and refit on my mac. But I cannot get it to boot with a firewire cable and I have not seen any instructions on how to do this with an intel imac, only a ppc.
The mac does recognize the external hard drive when I hold the option key when I turn on the mac, but I get a "no bootable device found" error once I select it...same thing happens with refit and firewire cable. Any ideas on how to get this to work? I am ok with running it via usb cable, but would like the firewire option.
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Oct 24, 2010
I just finished installing Lucid Lynx on an iMac7,1. So far, everything looks good, except for the fact that I am unable to access my external firewire drive. I know that outside of the Mac world, firewire isn't seen very often, but I was under the impression that it was supported. It doesn't show up in the /mnt directory of my new system, or my desktop. Then again, I am new to Ubuntu, and the filesystem looks a bit different from Mac and Debian, the two other *nix filesystems that I am the most familiar with. It shows up fine in Snow Leopard.
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May 7, 2010
I run lucid lynx 10.04 beta (live) on an iMac G4 800MHz flat screen. How do I partionate an 80GB HDD?
In gparted I see 8 very smal partition exept the hfs+ partition. I have thrinked the hfs+ partition and made a 1GB swap, approx 50GB /home and 5GB /.
When I try to install Ubuntu say I need a new world partion for the boatloader. How fix it? first it say I need 8MB, then 1.8GB!
Is it 'newworld' or 'New world start partition' and what should bee the mount-point?
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Aug 20, 2010
I just installed the latest version of Ubuntu on my intel-based iMac with OSX 10.6 (Snow Leopard), but I don't know how to bring it up.
I partinioned my hard drive for it. I inserted the CD and pressed C when restarting my computer for it to come up, then I installed it on the partition. It was done installing and said the computer must restart now, so I pressed OK. I got a black screen with a bunch of white text saying something about an error. It was pretty much "frozen" (I didn't know how to get off the screen), so I turned off the power manually by pressing the power button. I turned the power back on, but I get no option for Linux. I tried putting the CD back in, and it boots from the CD but it's still the non-installed version. So I thought maybe it didn't install, so I pressed install again. It said to choose where to install it, but my partition of free space said Ubuntu was already installed on it.
I'm really confused and don't know how to get it to start up when I turn on my computer.
EDIT: Here's some more info about my mac incase you need it:
iMac
OSX 10.6 Snow Leopard
Intel
4 Gb of RAM
250 Gb hard drive (29 Gb partitioned for Linux)
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Oct 15, 2010
I have an early 17" imac G5 PPC, only 512mb RAM. Been looking at the PPC linux distros available, and xubuntu 10.04 looks good, does anybody run here on an old Imac? Will just be a backup pc.
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Oct 25, 2010
I remembered about my old iMac G3 and currently had OSX 10.2.8 installed on it but its too old to support flash so no ..... or anything (why I stopped using it) I do remember gnash working on it along time ago when I had Ubuntu 4.10 installed, gnash is just really glitchy but that was quite a long time ago I used it so I'm only assuming they have made some updates as Ubuntu progressed.
I tried have now tried 4.10, 6.04, 6.10, 7.10, 8.04, 8.10, and 10.10 all for ppc using the alternate installer cause the desktop installer just makes the iMac restart when I tried it with 8.04 I think it was so I just stuck with the alternate installer method and EVERY one of those versions of Ubuntu fails to install the base system..
I don't know what it is or why this is happening because that is the same disc I used before with 4.10 and it now cant find a file, I tried re downloading 4.10 and burnt it again on my dads laptop (Toshiba Satellite with Ubuntu 10.10) at 8x on a CD (the iMac has a CD ROM only). I can't figure out what to do, I just downloaded the Desktop installer for 10.04 and the alternate installer for 10.04 as well and I'm going to burn both of those and see what happens.
Every install I tried to do I did a full whip to the hard drive so its a fresh install of ubuntu only. I thought maybe something was wrong with the hard drive now so I tried 10.2.4 again and it installed fine and wanted me to update to 10.2.8 again so I turned it off and tried 10.10 again and nothing is working. It's going on a week soon I've been messing with this old computer trying to get it working and everything is failing on me
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Oct 26, 2010
I decided as ubuntu 10.10 was so good on my old laptop i would install it on my old G4 iMac 17" LCD.
However, All I ever get is a black screen.
i tried the alternate install and it all seemed fine until it reboots and.... Black screen!
I burned the ubuntu 10.10 desktop ppc cdrom nice and slow, checked MD5 sums and verified disk etc...
I put it in the cd tray booted up, and let it start the lice cd... For a split second I saw the ubuntu loadscreen before it disappeared in a hiss of static and went to a.... Black screen.
I've tried alt-command F2, but don�t get a console
i am at a loss as to what to do next. I partitioned the whole HDD for ubuntu during the alternate istall. So until i can get Ubuntu up and running, I have a very heavy paperweight.
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Mar 22, 2011
my partner and I have been trying to wipe the mac os 9.2.2 (UK version) and replace with ubuntu 7.04 (previous forums have mentioned this is the most stable version of ubuntu for the G3).
We bought this iMac G3 the other day, cheap, for our sons room... homework, research, music etc. He's used to the windows system that the Mac os looks both boring and confusing to him. so we thought we'd go in between and use the ubuntu os.
Any who! downloaded the iso for ubuntu 7.04, burned the iso image, alternate cd install of course. the only problem we are having is getting the disc to boot at start up on the iMac. (cd rom doesn't have a tray, I've seen this question asked before). the cd burned fine, the disc works on other systems. but when it comes to boot up on the iMac, nothing happens. press and hold down c, cd drive turns the discs a few times then carries on with the original mac os 9 start up.
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Apr 5, 2011
Does anyone know if ubuntu 10.10 will work on an imac g4?
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Mar 18, 2010
I was originally going to install debian on this old iMac G4 and everything was going well. But then I decided, hey wait one second, I could probably find a version of Ubuntu which works on this old iMac, and so... i stopped the installation and loaded the ubuntu 8.04 disc. The only problem is, it will no longer register the boot CD... because i kind of already did the partitioning and nuked the OS X... So now I just see a gray screen with a file image displayed revolving between a question mark and the file finder image.
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Feb 21, 2010
I can't install any flavour of Ubuntu 9.10 onto my new iMac G3. Here are its specs:
iMac G3 New World (Indigo)
350MHz G3 Processor
192MB RAM
6GB Hard Drive
Slot Loader (CD only - not DVD)
Mac OS 10.3 Panther
The drive does work - I've played music from CDs on it, and it does allow me to view PDF files stored on data CDs. I can even view the Ubuntu CD through the Finder on the desktop. It just really doesn't want to boot from the CD.
I've tried multiple Linux distributions (all of them PPC compatible).
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Mar 25, 2010
I want to install Ubuntu on a PPC iMac.It is running 10.2.8.I'm looking for a ppc version of Ubuntu that will fit on a CD-R, the iMac has no DVD reader.Where can I find this?Also, I'm not sure how to get the iMac to boot from disc. It doesn't seem to respond to holding 'c'. Also, when I hold 'option' during boot up it shows me a screen with a picture of a lock, it wants me to fill in a password, but my user's password won't work.
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Apr 17, 2010
It seems that there is no "safe graphic mode" or similar when running the live cd.I only get a blank screen.
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Apr 24, 2010
I installed 9.10 and the graphic driver for the ATI video card. After reboot all was ok. Then I run a system update, it found almost 250 packages to update. After installation, rebooted machine and it hangs on boot.
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May 2, 2010
Well, I can't get audio on an iMac 27" at 3.06 GHz with Ubuntu 10.04. I have FGLRX ATI/AMD driver, but that's just for 2560x1440 display res. and don't give audio.
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May 16, 2010
I have an imac 27'' i7 and cannot get to install ubuntu.
I always get a blank black screen when during installation even when I select the "safe graphic mode". During installation, the i get some multi-colored straits at some point and then nothing, it returns to the black screen.
I even tried to partition my hard drive with Gparted and got the same blank black screen even with the "safe graphic mode" option.
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Jul 6, 2010
I am finally coming around to selling my iMac G3s and eMac. I will reformat the drives in them and put on Puppy Linux for the iMacs and Xubuntu on the eMac. If I can, I will repair OS X on them all and will dual boot if possible. All of this will be done using the Intel iMac via Firewire. I would like to know if there is a way to make these machines any faster (without money) and "safer" so the next owner feels sure they won't be failing on them soon.
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Aug 15, 2010
I presently have an iMac G4/700Mhz machine I want to try Ubuntu on, but I cannot get it to boot using the 10.04 PPC Live CD. I get to the boot prompt, and no matter what I type, the system halts when the screen clears and comes up, and each time it does so, it comes up different colors (I've seen green, red, yellow, and grey so far). I've tried the special boot arguments that apply to this system when you press the TAB key, and all of them end the same way, so I'm at a wee bit of a loss here.
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Aug 31, 2010
Here's the next problem I'm running into. I successfully installed Ubuntu using the Alternate disc. It's set up as the only OS, I let the installer configure the internal drive, etc. I don't need OS X on this machine anyways. I'm back to the graphics issue again.The system turns on, fires up YaBoot, starts up the Ubuntu install, but then hangs as soon as it goes to do something with the display adapter, producing a random blank screen in a particular color, and just stops there. I looked to see if there were boot options at the YaBoot prompt, but all it gave me were "Linux" and "Old".
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Sep 13, 2010
After few days of Googling, downloading and testing, I've finaly managed to make a working Xorg.conf for my iMac G3 (Slot-loading, Summer 2001). As many of configs found on the Internet wasn't working for me, I'm posting mine, which is based on data from many configs (some from Ubuntu 8.04, were not working on this new release without adjustments).
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Sep 18, 2010
I'm trying to boot ubuntu10.4 live CD on my new iMac (iMac 11,2, core i3). The screen goes black at start of boot and stays black. The CD stops reading after a few minutes and that's that. Just to see what else doesn't work I tried ubuntu10.10 beta live DVD. That boots the splash screen - already better than 10.4 - and gives the language menu and the boot option. The boot starts and some text scrolls up the screen quickly. Then the screen goes black, etc. Tried to set boot option vga=771 - no good. Boot option nomodeset - no good. Booting suse11.3 live CD also gives scrolling text and a black screen. All these discs worked on my old Mac Mini Solo (2006). Looks like something's different about booting a live CD on the new iMacs. Anyone else trying this?
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Jan 27, 2011
So here is how i got the Old Imac G3 running.
My spec are:
Imac G3 Ubuntu 10.04
600mhz
1GBram
20GB HHD
XORG.CONF file this file is a cut and copy of two xorg.conf files
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Next, open up WICD which should be in your applications area, find your network, click properties and enter the password in. Click connect.
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Feb 20, 2011
A while back, I used boot camp to dual boot OSX and Ubuntu on my iMac. It was fine, worked well - but I eventually took the partition off because there was some software corruption in OSX. I reinstalled OS X and now I want to dual boot Ubuntu. I can't! I created the partition - like last time, in Boot Camp, and I installed Ubuntu - I made sure to keep Grub on the Ubuntu partition only. But when I go to reboot (you know, after it finishes installing) I press option/alt and the Ubuntu partition does not show, only the Mac partition. Why is this?
ed: One thing that I remember is that I formatted the Ubuntu partition ext4 - I don't recall whether or not I used ext3 before, and do not know if that makes a difference.
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