General :: Where To Put The Boot Loader
Apr 29, 2011
I am installing Ubuntu 11.04 alongside Windows 7 and am being asked to select which device for boot loader installation. I have 7, called '/dev/sda *blank* through 7' (don't have a sda4) Should I just take the default (first one?)
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Jun 14, 2010
I installed ubuntu using wubi and then I tried installing grub 2 but it failed. I need a way to reinstall the mbr sp it will load the windows 7 loader from the first partition.
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Nov 1, 2010
I'm trying out puppy linux, as I have an old system, and the new Ubuntus do not work on it.
Anyway,I cannot boot from my hard drive but only from the floppy.I'm just not too keen on always booting from the floppy.
Here is the Menu.ls file:
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Aug 28, 2010
Can I separately install a third party boot loader which can boot both Windows and Linux (Ubuntu) . I want to use a boot loader other than the boot loaders which come with these operating systems. I am trying this out of curiosity.
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Nov 27, 2009
I have 2 os redhatlinux 5.1 and windows xp. is it possible to remove grubboot loader.
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Mar 2, 2010
I've got the latest version of Ubuntu on my machine.My Linux partition is ext4, so I need to use a Linux boot loader capable of booting from ext4.Also, I want to be able to use the UUID of my partition instead of specifying "/dev/sda3".Right now I'm using the Grub2 (or whatever the f*** it's called) that comes with Ubuntu. It's the ugliest boot loader you'll ever see, the configuration file is disgusting.So with that in mind, I'd like to change boot loader.Lilo would be OK but I can't seem to get it to boot from ext4.The older version of Grub was fine too but again I don't think it can boot from ext4.
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Jul 22, 2010
I need to install linux (with Grub) un a disk with windows 7 loader (i have 2x choice on that loader and i need to use it).
I tried to dig to find out some methods but nothing.
It's safe? It's better to install Grub on another partition - same physical disk?
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Oct 23, 2010
I have triple booted Windows XP (195 GB)partition 0? the second partition is Windows 7 (195 GB)And the rest of a 1TB hard drive went to Open Suse 11.3. if it makes any difference I used g parted to create the three partitions and made them all primary. My problem is I want to change the way they all get along. When I boot up, I get the options;
Desktop -- openSUSE 11.3-2.6.34-12
Failsafe -- openSUSE 11.3-2.6.34-12
windows 1
windows 2
which is fine, but clicking on windows 1 takes me to the windows boot loader with the options of windows 7, or previous version of windows. clicking on windows 2 brings up a screen telling me " rootnoverify (hd0,1) chainloader +1 BOOTMGR is missing press ctrl+alt+del to restart" I would like the end result to be windows 1=XP,windows 2=7, then I can rename them accordingly. one more thing, when I installed openSUSE, I let it automatically configure the hard drive and create the necessary partitions(it deleted partition 3 first). i remember it saying somewhere that the boot manager was past the 125 GB limit, and might not boot.
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Sep 11, 2010
I currently have 2 operating systems on my main hdd: Ubuntu and WinXP My current setup - [storage NTFS partition, solely data][17GB WinXP partition][{extended partion}Ubuntu + swap]: [URL] I have a second SATA hdd that I would like to install Arch Linux on to. It uses GRUB Legacy, and Ubuntu uses GRUB 2. I would like to know how I would go about booting this, and figure out where my current bootloader is installed to. i.e. /dev/sda or /dev/sda5 (the / ubuntu partiton)
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Oct 24, 2010
I just made my system unbootable... Here is what i did.. I have two sata HDDs
160 GB (Contained Windows 7)
500 GB
I copied entire 160 gb as an mirrored image to 500GB HDD using Acronis Disk Director. I deleted entire 160 GB HDD.. Removed the 500 GB HDD and kept it seperate.. Installed ClearOS Enterprise 5.2 Worked a little bit... The i wanted to delete ClearOS.. So i connected 500GB HDD and booted again in Acronis Disk director Formated the entire 160GB HDD.. Copied back the entire 160 from 500GB HDD.. Now my sytem refuses to boot... Just 4 letters "GRUB" appears on the screen... I tried booting using XP CD.. It gives a blue screen.. I tried Windows 7 CD.. It says unable to fix due to MBR problem..
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Mar 19, 2011
Have 3 linux distros on 3 hard drives. lost one distro from boot loader. how do I restore missing distro to boot loader? drive was not written to when one distro (drive) was updated.Example drives a, b, and c each had listing on boot loader, now after upgrade to distro on drive b order on boot loader is drive b then a and none for c.
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Sep 28, 2010
I have an existing WinXP install on the main drive (/dev/sda) of a Dell laptop. I installed OpenSUSE 11.3 on the second (caddy tray) drive and didn't touch the existing windows partition during install.After install completed, I found there was no boot loader entry for WinXP during startup. Only SUSE-related stuff. I opened YaST boot loader and tried creating an entry of type "other" and device of "/dev/sda1" and set this as the default entry.The /boot/grub/menu.lst file now has an entry:Quote:
title Windows XP-32
rootnoverify(hd0,0)
chainloader (hd0,0)+1
[code]....
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Oct 19, 2010
I have an internal disk with Linux installed and a removable drive bay for swapping out my windows disks. I'd like to get grub to map one option to the bay and be able to boot whatever disk is in there.
Right now it's mapped by id "/dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST3250310AS_6RY00KB61" but I noticed there is a by-path option. I am not sure how to use it and the documentation isn't very detailed. Is by-path a good way to do this or is there some other way to get this to work?
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Aug 9, 2010
Installing upgrade from Open SuSe 10.3 to 11.3. I did it on a 32-bit laptop, aborted half way through and couldn't get back on because GRUB loader was corrupted. No problem as there are lots of 32-bit GRUB loaders available for download, install was successful 2nd time. I need to do the same for a desktop x64bit dual core Intel. Can't find a x64bit GRUB loader on internet - how do I extract from my current set-up an emergency GRUB-loader CD?
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Jun 29, 2010
For the past few days I was putting effort on understanding the software control flow starting from "Boot loader" to "Linux User space".
I am consolidating the entire process and putting forth in this forum...It would be great if someone can validate this..It might be useful to other new bees too.
Step 1 : Power up the board
Step 2 : The CPU control goes to EEPROM/storage memory where BIOS resides
Step 3: BIOS gets loaded in RAM and gets executed
Step 4: During execution, the selection of Boot device has to be done with the help of BIOS Menu [Blue screen appearance during start up in normal PC's]
Step 5: BIOS shall access the Bootloader stored in boot device [for eg.,Hard disk]. Boot loader is stored in MBR area.
for explanation purpose I take the following configurations
Bootloader = GRUB
Boot Device = Hard Disk
Step 6: GRUB shall be loaded in RAM and gets executed
Step 7: GRUB shall load the KERNEL image to RAM. Kernel image is stored in Hard Disk.
The question of "How the GRUB knows where the Kernel image is stored".
The answer is
1. In the "Grub.config" file, the location of "Kernel Image" and " Ramdisk Image" [which will be discussed later in the section] is being given.
Step 8: Kernel Image followed by Ramdisk Image is loaded in RAM by GRUB bootloader
Step 9: Kernel Image gets executed...During execution, top portion of the code shall make initial hardware initialization and latter part
of the code shall just decompress the Kernel Image
Step 10 : After decompressing the Kernel Image, it shall decompress
the already loaded Ramdisk Image
Ram disk is just creating a temporary hard disk in RAM. The main responsibility includes it consists of minimal driver files, executables, directory structures to created a TEMPORARY ROOT FILE SYSTEM.
This Temporary Root File system shall be used by Kernel Image
1. Execute the executables to access the Hard disk
2. For creating Permanent Root File System in HARD DISK
Step 11 : Kernel Shall look for the file /Linuxrc in Ramdisk. Linuxrc
is a USER script file [not sure]
Step 12: At the end of script file Linuxrc, the Ramdisk shall give the
control to "USER SPACE" [path for writing the script not known]in Linux kernel
Step 13: USER SPACE is the normal shell
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May 1, 2011
i've started off using linux with ubuntu 10.10, and then i moved to linux mint 10 kde, and after finding out that it didn't support my hardware, in specifically my graphics card, i switched back to ubuntu 10.10, and from there i upgraded to 11.04. i hated the gui so i switched it from ubuntu to ubuntu (classic) environment. i also installed kubuntu-desktop too, and it looks a lot like mint 10 kde, i guess it uses kde 4.6, but... it's more stable for me. anyway, what i mean is that, originally ubuntu had a black background, linux mint 10 kde had a pretty cool custom mint background, ubuntu 11.04 has a purple background. i looked on videos, i found people using customized backgrounds, but they either don't explain how they got it *like for instance, someone said opensuse 11 or 13 has an icy penguin animated background, and someone else had one that you could scroll through.* or it's too complicated or outdated. is there a simple way to change your grub2 boot loader background image?
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Jul 22, 2010
When I installed openSUSE 11.3 I already had Ubuntu 10.04 installed and I installed these 2 OS's side by side but openSUSE didn't seem to add a Ubuntu menu entry in GRUB boot list So now I can only boot into openSUSE 11.3 and not Ubuntu 10.04. How can I fix this?I found in YaST an option to add extra boot menu entries but i don't know how to use it... or maybe there's also another way i can add Ubuntu entry to my GRUB boot menu?
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Mar 23, 2010
I had a dual boot machine with fedora 12 and windows vista and I could use grub boot-loader to switch between two. Few days ago windows got corrupt and I have to reinstall it. I put windows 7 now and as usual it erased grub. So to reinstall I put the fedora 12 installation CD on and followed some usual setup steps. When I got the command line I issued the command "grub-install /dev/sda" (sda not hda because It showed bunch of sda, sda1..) but surprisingly it said grub command not found. I remember doing it before while it worked fine.
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Oct 18, 2010
I have a system with 2 hard drives. One drive (D) is my Ubuntu 10.04 system and the other drive (C) is my Windows XP system.
When I boot, I get BIOS then GRUB. If I choose the XP selection I am taken to a Boot Loader that now longer works. I get an error saying: "Windows could not start because the following file is missing. <windows root> system32hal.dll Please reinstall a copy of the above file.
Can I remove the boot loader and let Grub take me directly to the C:/windows? If so how?
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Feb 8, 2010
How do i find out the exact kernel parameters (from the grub config file) when the boot loader is corrupt. Seems like a catch 22 that I need the exact boot parameters when I cant get to a prompt to read the grub.conf file to being with.
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Apr 30, 2010
i successfully install backtrack 3 but i cant see windows option anywhere in my lilo boot loader
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Feb 2, 2011
After installing recommended updates for Ubuntu, Ubuntu would no longer boot from Windows Boot Loader. It looks like an error about some missing NTFS4 files briefly flashes on the screen.
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Nov 8, 2010
I'm trying to dual boot Win7 and Ubuntu WITHOUT using Grub. This is to support Bitlocker encryption.
I followed this guide, and now when I select Ubuntu I get a Grub> prompt and no ubuntu.
I feel like I'm halfway there, I just need to get Grub to load correctly or something.
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Dec 16, 2010
This is the third time I try unsuccessfully to install Debian as a second OS on a hard drive. When it gets to the end of the installation process the installer asks whether I want to go ahead with the Grub Boot Loader, I choose yes. The end result is however that I can't boot that partition within the hard drive -- i.e., Debian. Can someone tell me what is going on? Should I not use the Grub Boot Loader when I have more than one operating system on a machine? Should I not install Grub on the Master Boot Record (MBR)?
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Oct 23, 2009
I have XP, Win7 Pro and F 11 installed. Before I installed F 11, Win 7 boot mgr was working fine. I then installed F 11 and I went to System/Admin/bootloader to edit it and it wouldn't bring up the boot loader. In the attachment was the error msg. Now my only option when I boot up is F 11.
I do not have access to the Win 7 DVD only the F 11 install disk since I am on a fishing trip and need to use Win 7. How can I repair to the grub boot loader to boot into Win 7?
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Mar 18, 2010
I'm trying to install Fedora onto a computer that has Windows XP on the first of two SATA drives. Windows 7 is on the second drive.
I installed Fedora no problems on a 14 gig free space I created on the first drive and told it where and what my other OS's were. Fine so far. I didn't tell it to overwrite the MBR on the XP (first) drive. I took the second option which I "think" put the boot loader on the fedora partition.
All good - till I rebooted and I just saw my Windows 7 loader with my options for XP and Windows 7 but no Fedora.
So, if I overwrite the MBR on the first drive, will that mean I can't access my Windows 7 installation?
How SHOULD I set up the boot loader?
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Jun 17, 2010
Here's my current setup:
Disk 0 (500GB): Windows Vista
Disk 1 (1TB): Windows 7
Disk 2 (160GB): Ubuntu
My boot disk is Disk 0. Currently when I turn on the PC, GRUB loads from Disk 0. I can then choose either Ubuntu or Windows Loader. If I choose Windows Loader (also located on Disk 0), I can choose to load Windows Vista or Windows 7. I like this setup, but I would like to move the loaders (exactly as they are) to Disk 1 so that I can format Disk 0.
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Apr 26, 2011
One thing I notice and hope someone here can steer me in the right direction. When I start up my computer I have the list of options to choose from, if I choose to boot into Win 7 I am the presented again with another boot menu from windows. I would like to remove the Windows boot loader.
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Jul 28, 2010
I have 2 HDDs:
HDD 1 (sda) with Windows XP installed on sda1 and four more partions.
HDD 2 (sdb) with three NTFS-Partitions (sdb1, 5 and 6) and Ubuntu 10.04 (sdb7) + Swap-Partition (sdb8).
I would like to boot Ubuntu using the Windows XP boot loader, i.e., having an entry there to choose Ubuntu and start my installation of Ubuntu 10.04. I have installed Ubuntu 10.04 on sdb7 and told the installer to install the grub2 boot loader to /dev/sdb (should it have been /dev/sdb7?). When using the boot selection option of my bios and choosing the second HDD Ubuntu starts without problems.
I used dd if=/dev/sdb of=bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1 to copy the mbr of my second HDD and copied the file bootsect.lnx to my c: drive. Then added C:ootsect.lnk = "Ubuntu Linux" to my Windows boot.ini. When rebooting my computer I get the option "Ubuntu Linux" in the XP boot loader. Choosing it I come to a black screen with a blinking white cursor. All I want to do is not use Grub 2 as my primary boot loader but instead leave my WinXP installation untouched and start Ubuntu from within WinXP boot loader. This has been working just fine with my old Ubuntu installation.
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Feb 25, 2010
I having a problem getting my grub loader to see one of my hard drives. I added a drive, and my grub loader lost track of where everything was. I couldn't get my old linux (Red Hat 9) so I installed SuSe on my new hard drive. But I need my be able to boot from my old hard drive because it has apps that only run on the earlier version. From /proc/partitions the old hard drive is sdd
major minor #blocks name
8 0 976762584 sda
8 1 2104483 sda1
8 2 20972857 sda2
[code]....
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