Fedora Installation :: Moving - Boot To A Separate Partition ?
Apr 23, 2009
Trying to dual-boot OpenSolaris and FC10 is difficult because Solaris grub doesn't know about ext3 and Fedora grub doesn't know about ZFS. I was able to rescue my FC10 installation by creating a new FAT16 partition and restoring /boot to it from a dump, and then doing a grub setup to it. A complication is that anaconda doesn't seem to be able to find /dev/md0 (both the Solaris and FC10 installs use mirrored disks).
This process moved the FC10 ext3 partition from /dev/sda3 to /dev/sda4, but the other half of the mirror is still /dev/sdb3.
When I boot FC10 I get a "can't load image" error from grub, but it still loads FC10 successfully. It makes no difference if menu.1st/grub.conf has "root (hd0,1)" (the FAT16 partition) or "root (hd0,3)" (the FC10 ext3 partition).
If a future yum update were to try to install a new kernel, my FAT16 partition would not be updated. It seems to me both these problems might be solved if I could move /boot from /dev/md0 to /dev/sda2 (/dev/sda2 is the FAT16 partition).
Rather than go through yet another install, would the following work?
from FC10, move /boot to (say) /boot.0
mkdir /boot
edit fstab to include "mount /dev/sda2 /boot"
If I try this and it doesn't work, I can't see any way to undo it since anaconda doesn't seem to be able to mount /dev/md0. If a grub guru sees this, perhaps they could suggest a better alternative, or if not, whether this will work or not.
Additionally, although there are two alternatives in menu.1st/grub.conf, grub doesn't display a menu - it goes directly to boot. Any idea why? I suppose this might be a Solaris stage1 grub problem...
Since FAT16 doesn't support links, it isn't possible to link grub.conf to menu.1st. Are they both required?
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May 29, 2010
I am triple booting
Windows xp
UBUNTU 10.04
Fedora 13
Everything works fine, the setup went very well. But I got to thinking (A dangerous thing for me). In Ubuntu I am using separate partitions for / (root) and /home. I was wondering, during install of Fedora, could I use the separate partition I am using now for both root and /home for just / (root) and use the Ubuntu /home partition for Fedora (set the mount point for /home to the same partition as I did for Ubuntu and not format the drive)? This would allow me to seamlessly use the /home partition and not require duplication of files. I can mount the Ubuntu /home dir while in Fedora.I can share the /home partition with two different installs of Ubuntu (been there).
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Aug 16, 2009
install fedora 11 on Vista I want to keep the windows boot loader and also install on a usb drive or a seperate partition that has 10GB free "install doesn't see partition's". Recently I installed ubuntu and had a major problem with booting, without having the usb drive connected I couldn't boot windows so uninstalled it. I'm trying to install now but install does'nt give me any option to select partitions from my drives one 320GB "portable, 3 partitions" and 80GB "main os 2 partitions one partition has 10GB free"
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Jul 24, 2011
I have a dual boot system with Vista and OpenSUSE 11.3 . Linux is distributed over 2 partitions: one for /home and one root partition for all the rest. As this root partition is getting filled, I thought of taking a 10 GB partition from the Vista partition and using this for the /usr folder (= 6 GB). This partition is a primary partition, while the rest of Linux is on secondary partitions.To be save, I renamed the existing /usr to /usr-old and created an empty /usr as mount point. I changed fstab to load the root partition, the /usr partition and then the /home partition.But when I started the system, there were a lot of errors about files not found in the /usr folder, lthought this folder and is content were clearly present when browsing the filesystem. What went wrong? Hard links? Other system configurations to change? Not possible to put /usr on a separate partition?
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Feb 14, 2010
GNU GRUB 0.97
Ubuntu 8.04.4
2.6.24-26
Added an SSD (dev/sdc) and decided to move some less often changed directories there. Started with /usr and /boot, leaving / on a primary in the first drive, for now. All started ok, and my changed fstab mounted the right ones, and the system works.
However, grub is actually using the original /boot on / on sda1. I cannot see any way to change this. (Which makes it sorta hard to update the kernel
From grub:
Okay, since it has two choices, I tried to tell it which one to use. But, grub> root (hd2,5) does nothing.
Disk /dev/sda:
what I seem to recall, grub doesn't care about the boot flag on the disk. Nor does it care about primary vs. logical (except GNU doc says "makeactive" only works on a primary?).
The GNU doc also indicates that it looks for a directory /boot on the partition, so if you're mounting a partition as /boot, it also needs to contain a /boot directory under it. Tried that, but no change.
Is my problem the logical partition? Does that prevent "grub> root" from changing it? I'm afraid to wipe out the old /boot and find that I can't start up.
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Nov 14, 2010
I have a 320gb USB hard drive, one partition for my files, one for playing Wii games, and one which I would like to use for an Ubuntu instillation.o do this, I partitioned my disk accordingly using Windows, then booted from the Ubuntu CD to install the OS to my external hard drive partition. It asked me where I wanted to install the boot loader, so I selected the hard drive itself, rather than the specific partition, reasoning that it would scan the hard drive for a boot record.However, when I booted it (with USB boot selected) it simply said "No Operating System found, replace system disk and press en
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Aug 25, 2010
While installing with a separate /boot partition I cannot get two distinct copies of ubu installed on one machine and be able to choose between them. Each is installed on a different hard drive. x64 versions. I've had this issue both ways:
Stepsinstall mythbuntu
install ubuntu
Result
Two entries in grub. Both cause ubuntu to boot
Stepsinstall ubuntu
install mythbuntu
Result
Two entries in grub. Both cause mythbuntu to boot Grub 2 is so unfriendly for fixing these things. I don't know where to make changes. Ok, Grub 2 is very powerful, maybe it's the lagging documentation, or lack of tutorials that is the problem. But I don't know how to fix this. Do I start over without the /boot partition? Do I bail on ubu?
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Nov 14, 2010
I have a 320gb USB hard drive, one partition for my files, one for playing Wii games, and one which I would like to use for an Ubuntu instillation.
To do this, I partitioned my disk accordingly using Windows, then booted from the Ubuntu CD to install the OS to my external hard drive partition. It asked me where I wanted to install the boot loader, so I selected the hard drive itself, rather than the specific partition, reasoning that it would scan the hard drive for a boot record.
However, when I booted it (with USB boot selected) it simply said "No Operating System found, replace system disk and press enter" or something similar.
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Mar 27, 2010
Noobish question on multibooting multiple Linux distros. I have four of the current major Linux distributions. Each has been installed and run individually (no other Linux distribution installed) in a dual-boot configuration with Windoze. No problem.
What I want to do is install all four Linux distributions and multiboot them. Reading the internet it would seem this is a simple task with GRUB. The short version being - install a Linux distro with a separate /boot partition for GRUB and use GRUB to boot the other Linux distros from the GRUB boot menu.
So I installed one of the Linux distros with a separate partition for /boot. The distro installer installed GRUB in /boot and correctly setup a dual-boot configuration with Windoze. GRUB was installed to the MBR. Next I installed a second Linux distro in its own root partition and told the distros installer NOT to install GRUB to the MBR, but rather, to the boot sector of the root partion of the second Linux distro. Installation was uneventful (and I could access the second Linux partition from the first installed Linux distro, things looked ok). Then I added to following to the installed (MBR - /boot) GRUB's menu.lst:
Code: title lixux distro 2
root (hd0,7)
chainloader +1 After which I rebooted the system and the new entry for the second Linux distro now appears in the GRUB boot menu. I selected the second Linux distro from the boot menu and got the following GRUB error: Error 5 : Partition table invalid or corrupt
[Code]....
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Nov 20, 2009
Where can I install grub? I know it can be installed to the mbr of a hard drive. I also know it can be installed to a /boot partition. Can I install it to a lvm partition? Does it have to be /boot? grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hda Does this command install grub to a partition and link it to a separate /boot? I have fedora, but this is a live cd. I need to learn where I can install grub2 to boot
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Mar 25, 2011
I moved my /var partition using Gparted Live CD version 0.8.0-3. Everything went fine. But when I boot my Fedora 14, I get error message (something like "name_count maxed, losing inode data"). Maybe there are other error messages as well, but they scroll away very quickly. Is there any way to slow them down?
But the boot hangs after starting udev and setting host name to localhost.localdomain. It just hangs there. If I press the [Caps Lock] key, it toggles the Caps Lock LED. If I boot the installation DVD in Rescue mode, it mounts all partitions without problems, and the data is there.
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Aug 5, 2010
I run several OSes (all Linux) on my computer. I set a separate partition for each one. I want to run Fedora 13 LXDE mainly for a game or two that are in the Fedora repos but not in any others, so I will not need a lot of space. But I want to make sure there is enough room for the OS.
I want to be able to play CloneKeen, so I will need enough space for that. I may find some other games, as well, so I will need some extra space. I have my other two OSes on six GB apiece, and Peppermint actaully uses barely half of that. Will 6GB be enough for a basic Fedora install with a few games installed? I will not really use Fedora for anything else, probably.
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May 1, 2010
I have an obsession of packing a large number of distros into one hard disk. Many distro installers do not like it even though their kernels can support higher number partitions. Typically an installer, say from a Debian family, would freeze when checking a hard disk that has more than 15 partitions. However if I put the same distro on a hard disk with less than 16 partition the installer will be very happy to install. I then copy the distro back to the original disk to a different partition, change the boot loader setting and fstab and the new distro will be happily working in the next hard disk that has 57 partitions.
This scheme works for any distro until recently Fedora refuses the move. I didn't investigate the cause then but I have just come up against a brick wall with the Red Hat Enterrise Linux 6. It was one out of the 4 I just moved. The others are operating happily. The RHEL will boot to a Grub screen. When I select the user account and type in the password it just refreshes the screen as though the password could not be accepted. I can boot up another Linux, mount the RHEL partition, change root to it and change my normal user password. Better still why don't I create a new user and another password.
Same result. I could not pass the log in screen with revised password or from a new account which got displayed. How about a little trick told by Justlinux library file --> to alter the run level. So I mounted the RHEL partition, changed root to it, edited the /etc/inittab and amended the run level from 5 (for X desktop) to 1 (single user - terminal mode). RHEL now boots to a root terminal! Success in a sense that my RHEL boots as expected and there was never a problem with booting. However newer Linux do not permit root log on to the desktop so I cannot check the log in with the ordinary user account to X. After I fiddled with the various files/parameters related to the gdm and X still no joy so I cut my loss and post the question here.
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Nov 25, 2010
is their a boot partiton that need to be kept seperate in ubuntu? Screenshot.png those are my partitons in the pic above am i okay to merge them all into the dev/sda2 or is it like windows and i need to keep a small section back for the boot?
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Jan 26, 2010
P4 2.4gHZ 2.0GB Ram I have tried to do some reading on this by googling and such, but it is all a bit overwhelming and so many posts/articles want to deal with dual booting which I am not planning to do on this machine. I am trying to find some info on whether it is better to have a separate boot partition. As in, separate from root partition. I have read that a separate boot partition makes for a quicker start and better recovery if system crashes. I will shortly be installing openSuse 11.2(KDE) [currently on 11.0] and I want to optimise the partition scheme so that it is the most efficient. I have a 160GB HDD that will be housing this new installation, so space is not a problem. I am only user on this machine. Currently, it is just partitioned as such:
2.0GB - swap [because I read it should equal Ram]
32.0GB - /
40.0GB - /home
76.8GB - extra storage [Not really necessary as I have 2 other HDD on system 1 - 320GB and 1 - 200GB]
Also, is it recommended to have separate partitions for /tmp /var or any other /nnn ?
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Nov 14, 2010
I have a 320gb USB hard drive, one partition for my files, one for playing Wii games, and one which I would like to use for an Ubuntu instillation. To do this, I partitioned my disk accordingly using Windows, then booted from the Ubuntu CD to install the OS to my external hard drive partition. It asked me where I wanted to install the boot loader, so I selected the hard drive itself, rather than the specific partition, reasoning that it would scan the hard drive for a boot record. However, when I booted it (with USB boot selected) it simply said "No Operating System found, replace system disk and press enter" or something similar.
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Aug 9, 2011
I have been working in my spare time over the last few days, Had problems with the whole grub2 not installing on RAID 1. Then I found out that I had to have a separate non raid Ext4 partition on one drive with "/Boot" as mount point and install went though fine.
My question is, will the developers FIX this. I mean if I only have 2 x 2tb drives in teh pc as RAID 1, and the one fails with the boot partition the whole machine goes down. Kinda defeats the whole RAID feature huh.
I USED to run a windows network with RAID 5 servers, and windows never had a problem installing everything on the RAID. Or even setting up RAID 1 in the bios on the PC and installing XP or NT4 on the RAID 1. There was never a need for a separate non raid boot partition.
Do we need a separate RAID friendly/enabled Grub? I guess for now I will get a 250gb drive and install the Server OS to it, and setup RAID1 manually after the server OS boots. Then will make a ghost type image of the server in case that drive fails so I can quickly install a new drive and restore the image and get it back up and running again.
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May 18, 2011
I'm running Debian Wheezy on a Dell XPS M1530 laptop, 64-bit.
I'm having a boot problem after moving my /usr directory out of the root partition and into its own partition.
I followed the "easy way" here: [url]
Basically, I moved the contents of /usr to a new partition -- renamed /usr in root to /oldusr -- and edited fstab and tried to reboot... but the boot process wasn't able to find the new /usr.
After using /dev/sda7 in fstab (to no success) I ran blkid to find the UUID and used that (again, to no success).
My fstab is below:
For what it's worth, grub is also looking different -- none of the debian backgrounds that were there previously remain. While it lists the same kernels to boot into the boot (as described above) fails.
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Feb 3, 2010
I originally had my full hard drive as a full Ubuntu partition but I then re-sized that and installed Windows on a new partition. Now I guess the boot sector got overwritten and I don't have a choice to boot either Windows or Ubuntu. I know I have to reconfigure GRUB or another boot loader to allow the choice but I am not sure of how to go about that.
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Mar 2, 2011
Using gparted as shown on the partitions in the image:
sda1 is Windows 7
sda2 is swap
sda3 is root
sda4 is home
I'd like to move sda4 to the end of the drive, thus shrinking it by 20GB, and shunt every other partition along to make an extra 20GB for sda1 at the start of the drive, and expand this partition into the 20GB of space I created.
When I start moving and shrinking sda4 (before I apply and execute the command) I get a warning saying that it is very dangerous to move a boot partition and it could render my system unbootable etc etc.
How safe is it to do this? If I bork it, can I recover easily?
I assume the error has something to do with start/end disk sectors in the grub2 list (however this works these days). In short, messages like this do what they should and scare me just enough to seek assistance from this wonderful online community!
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Jul 21, 2010
I need to move a Linux boot partition which uses grub into some unallocated space to its left on a hard disk in order to make more room for the partition after it. The boot code is not in the MBR but in its own partition. I have a multi-boot program which currently correctly boots the partition. The partition order will not change.
I have non-Linux software that can move the partition. The software suggests I have to run some Linux command after the move, but does not say what to do for grub. I would be glad to move the partition within Linux if that makes it easier, perhaps with gparted or kparted.
Can someone tell me if there is anything I have to do for grub if I move the partition to its left ? My multi-boot loader will find the partition to boot once I move it. If I move it with gparted or kparted do I have to do anything after that to make sure grub works correctly once my multi-boot program boots the partition ?
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Dec 16, 2010
I have a system which previously have 3 OS installed on one physical HDD; WinXP on sda1, Win7 on sda2 and Slackware linux on sda3. Lilo is used as the boot loader.
Recently I bought another HDD and decided to reinstalled my Win7 on it and I use GParted to move Slackware to the original Win7 slot on my first HDD so now my Slackware partition has been move from sda3 to sda2.
I modified the /etc/lilo.conf file so that it reflects the new Slackware partition and run lilo to installed it.
The lilo installed correctly I can boot into WinXP and Win7 without problem but when I try to boot into Slackware, it fail at the root filesystem check, apparently the e2fsck still try to check sda3.
Is there anything that I can do to correct the problem without having to reinstall Linux?
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Jan 30, 2010
A while back I ran into the situation of running out of space on /boot. When I last installed Suse I just went with the recommended LVM layout, which proposes a very small /boot partition. When you run out of space you are now faced with resizing the LVM, which Gparted unfortunately does not support.In Googling around I did not find a concise guide, so I collected the information I needed and and then wrote a guide on the steps I used to resolve this issue and it is available at Resizing Default LVM Partitions and Moving /boot - Mine the Harvest
I found using EVMS from a live CD to be quite simple and was able to create a new /boot partition and reconfigure grub to use it in very short order. I was quite impressed with how easy to use EVMS was and the options it provides. (I think that the default LVM layout the Suse installer proposes is overly conservative on the size of the /boot partition. Why not allocate a few hundred megs, especially considering the size of drives today? Perhaps Suse will soon move to using grub2 and eliminating /boot altogether, but for now the very small allocation of space can be a bit of a pitfall for users -- especially when they are not familiar with resizing LVMs and reconfiguring grub. Of course moving to grub2 also introduces its own complexities too.)
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Dec 9, 2010
Old drive is dying, so I copied the system over to my new drive. I've moved /home and /tmp to separate partitions and updated fstab and grub with the appropriate UUIDs from blkid. Grub wasn't loading but that's been fixed now.
Problem:
The problem now is that when I boot I get the following screen:
Errors were found while checking the disk drive for /
Press F to attempt to fix the errors, I to ignore, S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery
F doesn't work, and in manual recovery the file system is read-only. How to proceed?
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May 16, 2010
Because I am using one of the new WD disks I am trying to aling my root partition with the real sectors, as described here: [url]
So I copied all files to a temp location, deleted my partition (/dev/sda3), recreated it a few cylinders later (same name) and copied the files to the newly created partition. I updated UUIDs in grub's configuration as suggested in this thread:[url]
But now it fails to boot with the following error:
Code:
I checked the filesystem on this partition and its fine. I tried to recreate the initramfs from Knoppix:
Code:
But it didn't change anything.
How can I either fix it or install a different kernel on this drive so I could boot into it and re-install my default kernels?
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Feb 7, 2010
I was surprised not to find an existing thread on this anywhere, as I would expect this to be a common problem: I have the following partitions on my eee PC 100HE:
10GB Windows XP
5GB Linux Mint 8
5GB Ubuntu 9.10 NBR (awesome distro by the way!)
130GB Home partition shared by Linux Mint and Ubuntu NBR
2GB Swap partition shared by Linux Mint and Ubuntu NBR
I installed Ubuntu NBR after Mint. Immediately after install, the panel layout, menus and colour scheme were slightly messed up - presumeably because they had been "adopted" from the Mint settings in the home folder. I corrected them easily, but now I have the same problem in Mint. Is there any way I can get both distros to use the same /home folder, but different settings (i.e. the /home/username/. folders)? Can I get these settings folders put on a different partition for example?
And is this problem due only to the fact that these are 2 Ubuntu-based distros? Or will I have the same problem if/when I replace Mint with another distro, such as Fedora or Moblin?
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Nov 16, 2010
I encrypt a partition using LUKS, and store personal data on this partition. Then create a user account that solely deals with this partition and insulated from the Internet. Normally for each boot I do not even need to mount the LUKS encrypted partition, and when I mount that partition under that special user account, I can make sure that the Internet is cut off. I'm going to do the alternate installation these days, could you provide a brief sketch regarding what steps I should go through to implement the above result?
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Dec 1, 2010
Is there a way to setup a separate /home partition during a new installation of Ubuntu? If so, how. I've found guides about how to do it after installation, but it seems there ought to be a way to do it that way from the very beginning.
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Jul 11, 2011
I know it is possible to move the ubuntu home directory but what is the best way to move it safely to an NTFS partition that already has valuable data in?
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Jan 11, 2010
I want to move my home directory to a separate partition so I can install the new versions of Ubuntu without losing my data. And while I'm at it, what other important directories should I move to separate partitions? And how do I do it? I'm guessing that the /boot directory should also be moved to its own partition too, yes? Because it has the GRUB in it, and if I removed Ubuntu to make way for a newer version of Ubuntu, I'll just get an error because the computer can't find the GRUB that doesn't exist anymore, right? And also, if I move those important yet-to-be-listed directories to their own separate partitions, how large should those partitions be?
I don't want to miss out on the upcoming Lucid Lynx (If it will work in the first place, of course ) By the way, I have an Ubuntu-Windows XP dual-boot system. I'll attach a screenshot of my partition table from GPartEd. You can see that I have about 300 GB. The largest partition is Ubuntu.
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