Fedora :: Gnome Versus KDE Applications
May 31, 2010
I installed Fedora 13 and use the Gnome desktop. I want to keep my installation as clean as possible and have heard some contrary advice about installing both Gnome and KDE desktops, so I want to stay with just Gnome. In the past I have mixed both and feel that resulted in tons of packages that I probably didn't need and tons of updates all the time. However, some applications seem to be KDE applications and installing them requires installation of many KDE packages. This is a source of confusion for me:
Is there a distinction between Gnome applications and KDE applications? If so, how do you tell the difference? Should one NOT install KDE applications if you are using the Gnome desktop and not interested in installing KDE desktop? Is there a best practice on how to approach which software to install so that you do not create a mix and match mess?
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Apr 2, 2011
I put a text file on my desktop and added a couple lines of text with gedit. File type shows text/plain. Double-click opens the file in gedit which is what I want. I'm using the file to temporarily hold some snips of code that I copy from file to file, but when I copy some html into the file and save it, now file properties show it's text/html and a double-click opens the file in firefox, which isn't what I want. Is there some way to keep the file type from changing itself?
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Oct 17, 2009
I have what seems to be far to many KDE programs running on my Gnome desktop is this normal?
I thought there would be gnome equivalents.
I'll list them:
Is this normal for a Gnome Desktop Fedora installation and if so which are completely arbitrary and can be removed safely?
Also is xorg supposed to use 8-20% of the CPU when all that is running is the system monitor? The system monitor application also uses 20-70% of the CPU when it is running by itself also. (Intel Pentium 4, 3.2ghz)
I didn't choose any KDE desktop Applications Intentionally
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Nov 27, 2009
I recently installed Fedora 12 and none of the Gnome applications have menus.
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Jun 23, 2010
Is it safe to use applications for GNOME, say, Disc Burner, in KDE?
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May 25, 2011
So...without editing ~/.config/autostart (which I can't find in F15...) How does someone set a startup application?I notice Gnome 3 does not have the "startup programs" option available any longer.. So, I went searching with the hopes of running it with trusty terminal:
Code:
#yum whatprovides gnome-session-properties
You can use "*/gnome-session-properties" and/or "*/bin/gnome-session-properties"
[code]....
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Aug 4, 2009
I recently was playing with some gnome settings and I went to System > Preferences > Startup applications then I hit the Options tab and checked "Automatically remember applications when logging out" was testing to see if it actually worked... and it did.. so I unchecked it and restarted again and... it's the SAME 3 applications I was running.. and its stuck..tried checking it again and then closing everything but now it's still doing it with the same 3 apps I had running (Totem, Firefox, Pidgin).Anybody know how to wipe where it's remembering the applications I'm running? so this can stop when I log in.
somehow checking it again and closing everything worked this time, but does anybody know where I can find the find the remaining information for this function? so i can wipe it clean, whatever may be left.
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Jun 24, 2010
There are a couple of applications that I want to start at bootup when I load GNOME but not when I'm using KDE. There doesn't seem to be any option for that. Is there any way I can accomplish this?
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Dec 19, 2009
I don't know if its a 'bug' of something f* up on my system (Fedora 12).
When I right-click on the 'Applications' menu I don't see the 'edit' ...
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Oct 7, 2010
When I try to open something in gnome, say, a file format it does not recognise, I get the usual "open with..." dialog. There, I see many duplicates of wine programs, such as Windows Media Player, or Wine core exe, wine windows program loader, etc.For example, the "Windows Media Player" is listed at least 10 times in that dialog. How can I remove these duplicates?
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Jan 24, 2011
I have two entries (identical ones) of the same app under Applications on my gnome panel. How can I remove one of them?
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Feb 12, 2011
all programs and windows that I start on my F14 x64 machine getting either started in the background or minimized. This is driving me insane. My Gnome (no compiz) has that annoying behavior since F13 and I've already gone through any windows/appearance/effects settings - w/o any success.
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Feb 12, 2011
I just did a clean install of fedora 14 on a dell precision 690 (multiprocessor system, with buckets of memory--16gb). It is old, but a great machine. It is dual boot to windows, but that is probably irrelevant. Note, the reason I did the clean install was the exact problem I report here had cropped up on this system running fedora 14, but I was having kluged together the system after grub issues, so i blamed it on something unrelated and hoped a clean install would solve this.
After installing the system, running updates, etc., I installed open office, and virtualbox. I then set up two virtual machines in virtual box, both Win XP, and added my favorite windows applications. that may not be relevant, but that is the history. I added a couple pieces of high end software too, which required some odd libraries--libgdal and libexpat.
After a couple of of days of using the machine, I tried to run open office (after having used it several times, and logged off several times) and it wouldn't execute. I then realized that all of my desktop icons had disappeared. I then experimented and realized several other applications wouldn't execute from the gnome applications menu. however, I could execute anything I wanted from the command line in a terminal.
I read a suggestion in the forums to create a new user. painful process, but that did indeed solve the problem (temporarily). But then the problem repeated with the new user. So now, this really sucks and I'm cursing fedora. After consulting my linux geek brother, I tried something else--I loaded kde, and tried that. (btw--why doesn't ctl-alt-backspace allow you to switch windows managers in this linux?)
Anyway, kde works fine with everything except open office--it still won't run for some reason, even in kde.
Strangely, my virtual machines worked throughout all this. that is, I could execute virtualbox from gnome, everything runs fine.
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Jun 11, 2011
I don't want to install alacarte to do this. I've copied the .desktop files from /usr/share/applications to ~/.local/share/applications that I don't want appearing in the gnome 3 applications list (e.g., email settings for evolution), and added 'NoDisplay=true' to the end of each desktop file. Restarted gnome shell, even tried logging out and back in, but they still appear there. Previously, in gnome2, desktop files under the home dir superceded the global directory. Do I need to edit them directly as root to effect the changes, or could this be a selinux problem?
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Jan 27, 2010
I cannot right click with my mouse on the gnome applications menu to get the properties/edit menu option. This is on F12 on 64bit.
Instead I get: "help, remove from panel, lock panel". I dont have this problem with anything else on the top bar.
---------- Post added at 12:33 PM CST ---------- Previous post was at 12:21 PM CST ----------
Turns out I have to install package alacarte and then go to System > Preferences > Main Menu
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Dec 30, 2009
In F11 to run PolicyKit I entered the following at the command line.
polkit-gnome-authorization
In F12 this doesn't work. I get an error message "command not found"
How do I access PolicyKit in Fedora 12?
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Feb 1, 2011
Can I use KDE applications like Knode and K3B on OpenSuse 11.3 with Gnome?
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Jan 18, 2011
I run Gnome and i want KDE applications to use the same icon set as i have for my Gnome desktop. I have searched the file system and found a folder called "default.kde4" in /usr/share/icons. I assume this is where KDE applications pull their icons from. Firstly, this folder is a linked folder. How do i find out where the original folder that it is linked to is? Secondly, i am assuming, that the KDE icons won't be a name for name match for the icons i am using in Gnome (Faenza just in case anyone is curious). What is the easiest way to get the KDE icons changed for the one's i am using in Gnome?
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Jul 18, 2011
i can run kde apps in gnome, and vice versa. So, it got me wondering, why does there need to be kde applications and gnome applications? if they both will run on the other, then whats the difference? does it have to do with how they're written? is one better than the other?
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May 18, 2011
I'm having a cosmetic problem with KDE applications, like Kile, K3b and Okular, under gnome, they do not conform to the gtk theme set for gnome - which I would like them to do. I'm running 11.4 with gnome 2.32.1 and qt 4.7.1
In 'qt configuration', when I set the GUI style (in the 'Appearance' tab) to 'desktop settings' or 'gtk+' the KDE applications look an unnactractive mix of the gtk theme and the default theme for the applications (which looks like cleanlooks). Some buttons and menus conform to the gtk look and others do not. If I select 'cleanlooks' instead, for instance, the KDE applications have a consistent 'cleanlooks' appearance that has no resemblance to my desktop appearance (e.g. I use a dark window background with white font, and the KDE applications have white window backgrounds with black font, they have different window colors.)
Now, if I have 'desktop theme' selected in 'qt configuration' and I have one of these applications open and I then change my appearance preferences, say to another theme (through 'Control Center > Appearance'), the theme is applied consistently, and the KDE application looks like I would like it to. However, once the application is quit and restarted, the ugly theme mixing recurs, that is the theme selection does not get saved to the KDE applications.
As far as I can tell this is a KDE 4 problem not a qt problem, as other qt applications (like VLC) look fine when set to 'desktop theme' or 'gtk+', while KDE 3 applications (like Quanta plus) seem to completely ignore the 'gui style' settings in 'qt configuration'.
Note this is not specific to 11.4 or gnome 2.32.1, I had the same problem with previous versions of gnome in 11.3, and Fedora 14 when I still used it.
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Jan 6, 2010
I read some stuff about making Gnome apps fit in with the KDE desktop but not the other way around. I use a few KDE apps and it would be nice to have their themes fit in with my Gnome desktop if possible
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Sep 16, 2010
I am unable to successfully start either the XFCE or Gnome desktops, in Gnome the my wallpaper is displayed but that is all. This problem appeared yesterday night after my hard disk filled up, then all Gnome programs began to crash, also "df" failed to terminate. I was able to clear some space from the terminal (around 2 GB).
I was able to run an xterm so I attempted to load the components of Gnome manually from the terminal, to see which were problematic. I found that every application which uses Gnome fails to execute, producing a segmentation fault. A Java crash informed me that a "problematic frame" producing SIGSEGV was libgnomevfs-2.so.0. I ran md5sum on all libraries matching the pattern /usr/lib/*gnome*, the checksums are identical to those on a working Ubuntu installation, so it is unlikely to be corruption of a library.
I have managed to determine that the problem is not in GLib or GTK+ as I wrote a simple (hello world) GTK+ application which executes without problem.Furthermore (due to a lack of Gnome's network manager) I am without a network connection on the problematic computer.
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Jun 19, 2011
my problem is that the Applications menu is empty and Preferences and Administration no longer appear under the System menu.I'm running 11.04 and I use Ubuntu Classic because I prefer the GNOME interface. The other day I was trying out various audio/multimedia players so I was installing and uninstalling several programs with the Software Center.
I started to play a CD in Audacious when the system crashed. The screen went dark but the computer kept running. I ended up doing a hard reset. Everything booted up normally and everything seems to run fine except my GNOME menu is messed up. The Applications menu is empty and Preferences and Administration no longer appear under the System menu. (I realize I can get to these through System Settings but I want the menus back) Furthermore alacarte will not run so that I can edit the menu contents.
I've tried using one of the old menu versions in /home/dan/.config/menus but they are all outdated and I cannot edit them. It also doesn't bring back Preferences and Administration.I've tried reinstalling alacarte and that doesn't do anything.I've tried using other panel programs like Docky and AWN but I have the same menu problem.I also tried resetting the panels to defaults but that doesn't fix the problem.
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Jun 8, 2010
I recently tried installing GNOME Inform for Linux on my lpia architecture ubuntu netbook remix-running netbook, only to get the error message:
dpkg: error processing gnome-inform7_5Z71-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--install): package architecture (amd64) does not match system (lpia)Errors were encountered while processing: gnome-inform7_5Z71-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
I have not been able to find a Lpia archive, although I will keep on looking. Is there anything else I could do, or could someone direct me to an Lpia archive? I'm specifically trying to get the GUI version of Inform, not the Command-Line version.
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Jul 23, 2011
I successfully created launchers for apps and I can run them in terminal with double clicking.Now I want them to run on startup, automatically. They run with arguments.There is System-> Preferences -> More Preferences - > Sessions - > Startup Programs where I can add my commands.I put:
gnome-terminal -e "/some_path/myapp1 -arg1 - arg2"
gnome-terminal -e "/some_path/myapp2 -arg1 - arg2"
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Aug 14, 2010
i have 2 boxes w/ squeeze/gnome. my home one has bigger HDDs (to me anyway), so i can install/trick out for days. my work box however, has a single paltry 12Gb HDD (and no, i can't afford to run out and buy a bigger one).my question is this: can i slim down my gnome install my removing what are to me at work, non-essential apps (evolution, totem, etc)? if you try to remove any of these in synaptic, it says it will ALSO remove gnome altogether.
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Mar 26, 2011
I have a clean install of openSUSE 11.4 64 bit using gnome as the desktop manager. When selecting applications from the gnome menu, randomly the application will appear to not launch. However, if I click anywhere in left, upper portion of my desktop it becomes obvious that the application has launched and is not visible. For example, yast will not appear but clicking in that portion of my desktop causes various windows to appear that correspond to the different options in the yast home screen.
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May 13, 2011
In gnome 3, when I go to activities>applications I either have duplicates (sometimes I do and sometimes I don't) of some programs or no icons for the ones I uninstalled, but they are still there. How do I hide/delete them?
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Oct 2, 2009
I would like to know if there is a way to replicate the contents of the GNOME Applications menu in FVWM (Without running GNOME), because it was very convenient to have it and I don't know the command-line names of some of the programs I need.Especially now I would really like to have it soon because I got VirtualBox and I don't know of any other way to start it other than that menu.
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Feb 25, 2010
What title says, I am creating a lxde/gnome mix and cant remember the name of the package and cant find it.
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