Ubuntu :: Server Or Desktop Installation For Limited Server Use?
Aug 1, 2010
My present system consists of 4 computers all running Ubuntu (just upgraded to 10.04) and all have a Virtual windows installations to run applications for which there are no Linux substitutes. The "server" is a NAS that is merely a file repository. I want to replace the NAS with a new computer that acts as both a server and a local workstation. It would act as a repository for common files and would run a mail, calendar, contacts server for the LAN (no outside connections).What are the pros and cons of installing the server version of Ubuntu (or Kubuntu) then adding the appropriate desktop versus installing the desktop and adding some server functions?
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Feb 24, 2011
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Sorry to waste the groups time on this one, after killing that and biting fingers, I re-examined the ps list and saw the tar and bzip running fine (so even though I killed the backup .sh, it was still going along, so I simply removed those and all was well again.
Feel free to reply though with #3, if I have 30G of mail, I know gzip is faster but bzip is more compression from reading, should;
a) tarring that mail actually drop to 3G total!
b) est (I know it's tough) but backing up 30G, is 10 hours longer than expected? (I will run some tests on a smaller folder)
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this is on an old RH9 box and backing up mail. I started the job last night in a shell script, it's around 30G of mail, and it was a tar using bzip as there was only 20 or so gig 'free space'. The old backup script was in perl and just a tar mail folder and the total was 3G so I figured I was safe.
Well it started last night and this am it was still running. I did a kill -9 on the pid and ps now shows it as;
root 9143 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? Z Feb23 0:00 [backup.sh <defunct>]
Disk space was down to 1.3G free (so somewhere all that space is being held temp somewhere), but I removed the old backup (3G which gave me a little breathing room of 4.5G), but the backup is still running somehow as the 4.5 is now 4.3. I tried the pkill, kill -9 pid, read someone said re-start the job which I did, then killed but nothing.
I really can't reboot this production box, so in RH9, I need to both;
1.kill that defunct backup
2.remove the temp storage it has made
3.figure out why it's taken 10+ hours and not done.
1 and 2 being 'critical'
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Jul 13, 2010
I'm having a bizarre problem with FTP transfers from my CentOS 5.3 boxes, All of my CentOS boxes appear to be limited at ~10kb/s when connecting to any FTP server outside of our network. We have no network infrastructure which would cause this, however when I use a windows based machine it is able to connect fine.
I took my laptop running Vista, and rebooted it onto a CentOS 5.3 LiveCD, and same issue.
I have checked our iptables, cleared the rules, removed the kernel modules, checked CBQ/TC it looks like nothing is limiting this. Also, other protocols work fine. Both the windows and linux boxes used passive transfers for it.
Is there anything other than iptables/CBQ which would be on a out of the box install of CentOS I should check? Is there any kernel settings for NAT connections which may cause this?
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Feb 22, 2011
I have bought a Mini-itx mainboard VIA EPIA LT15000AG
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RAM: 1GB
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And a very nice case from idotpc.com http://www.idotpc.com/TheStore/pc/vi...&idproduct=503
Now i only need to find a distro to install on it, i hope some of you have some recommendations.
I will use it for the following things code...
I of course don't need X for any of these things, so a distro one can install without X is a must.
Any distro. and usage reccomandations are very welcome.
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I can install 6.06 desktop, but would like to move to a 8.04 server. I know I can do an upgrade from 6.06 desktop to 8.04 desktop, but how about to server? cdrom issues and heartache associated with other means of alternate iso installs are beating me up.
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Apr 8, 2011
I currently dual boot Vista and Fedora on one drive, and have tried 5 times to install Ubuntu 10.0 64-bit on another drive. I used desktop CD and put /boot on 1 GB /dev/sdc1 ext4 and root on 100 GB /dev/sdc2 ext4. It installs fine, but when you go to boot, and you pick it from the GRUB menu, it times out and says it cannot find /dev/ with the ID.Because GRUB runs you can conclude that it never has a problem finding /dev/sdc1.
When I boot into Fedora, I can mount and access both partitions without a problem. I've run e2fsck -ccv on /dev/sdc2 over and over again with no issues whatsoever, unmounted, of course. I then created a new logical group and used /dev/sdc3, inside of which I put a 100 GB logical volume. I installed root onto it using the Server 10.10 64-bit CD. No problems with installation. GRUB came up with all the new options, but again, when I selected to boot into either the new server install or the old desktop install, it timed out and dropped into a useless command line that was non-responsive to keystrokes. The now the /dev name is the /dev/mapper/lg_raptor/lv_uroot logical volume that it says does not exist.
Again, I boot into Fedora, able to access all these partitions, including the new logical volume, without any problems. I can mount them, view all their files, and open them.Fedora reports that the file systems are clean. Why can't Ubuntu's GRUB see the Ubuntu partitions when I select them from the menu despite being able to boot into Fedora and Vista when I select them from the same menu, and Fedora able to mount and access these partitions without a problem and a clean bill of health from e2fsck?
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Dec 2, 2010
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Jan 31, 2011
I know it is possible to install a Ubuntu Server Edition and later on 'upgrade' it to a desktop edition by doing
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[Code]....
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Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
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