Ubuntu Installation :: Install From Boot But On Same Partition ?
Dec 8, 2010
I now that when I run my PC and insert Ubuntu Live CD/DVD it installs it on the same partition, but how can i do this from boot, because I can't boot Windows XP, I installed Puppy Linux so my PC is usable but I need to access the data from Windoink Iws Partition, which I can do from Puppy. But I want to install a "real" OS like Ubuntu but still be able to access Windows XP Partition data. I think it is not possible to access the data from Ubuntu on a seperate partition so they have to be on the same one if I am right. Just if you wanna know why I can't boot XP? I get the BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH!
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Mar 31, 2011
I bought a PC with Window Vista on it as my partner needs it. Using gparted I set up Primary partitions for Vista OS (sda1) and Ubuntu OS (sda2), plus an extended partition for Vista files, Ubuntu /home and swap:
fdisk -l
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 3969 31880961 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 3970 5294 10643062+ 83 Linux
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My problem is Vista (as always). The 30GB I allocated is not enough, even just for the OS and it won't now boot from GRUB, though I can see it from GRUB. I don't want to do anything that risks a problem for Ubuntu. Will grub still see both OS if I wipe sda1 (Vista OS) and reinstall Vista OS on the extended partition sda6? Ideally I would like to merge sda1 with sda6 and install Vista on that, but that looks way too risky / impossible.
Edit - There is another drive on the PC which is much larger and I use for backup. Is there any scope for installing Vista on that one so that GRUB still identifies both. Not ideal as I like having one as the backup for the other.
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Jan 7, 2010
I wanted to start exploring web development and perhaps hosting my own server as well as learning about linux and all the things that go with it so I downloaded the ubuntu 9.1 Server edition and burned it to a CD. I thought to put it on my Dell laptop as it is newer than my main PC and I could bring it to and fro between class. It had Vista installed and I definitely wanted to keep that in the meantime until I got more familiar with Ubuntu. The laptop has a 320GB hard drive with a 10 GB recovery partition. I went ahead and formatted the 10GB to make room for ubuntu. Also I was able to "shrink" the main windows partition by 16GB to make even more room. I could not combine the two small drives but alas. I had hoped to use the 16GB partition for the main install and the 10GB for a necessary swap drive (I am completely new to all this).
So I reboot on the server CD and get to the partition section. I was following this guide here: [url]
It seemed I did not want to do anything "guided" or "automatic" because the options were listing the entire drive and again i wanted to keep my vista untouched. So I go to manual partitioning and although the guide didn't go into enough detail I went ahead and assigned an "ext2" filetype to the larger partition and a "swap" to the smaller partition. Then I went to write changes to disk and after completing one of the two successfully the installer failed to configure the swap drive. I don't know why. I restarted to make sure windows was OK and surely it was not, as I got the dreaded "missing operating system" screen. I ran the windows recovery CD and lo and behold it could not find any drives at all, much less repair them. The data I had on the vista partition were not particularly vital, but it would be nice to have it back.
So my questions are, is there a way to recovery the windows partition? And how is the correct way to configure a dual boot system with Vista and Ubuntu 9.1 Server edition?
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Aug 16, 2009
install fedora 11 on Vista I want to keep the windows boot loader and also install on a usb drive or a seperate partition that has 10GB free "install doesn't see partition's". Recently I installed ubuntu and had a major problem with booting, without having the usb drive connected I couldn't boot windows so uninstalled it. I'm trying to install now but install does'nt give me any option to select partitions from my drives one 320GB "portable, 3 partitions" and 80GB "main os 2 partitions one partition has 10GB free"
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Apr 20, 2011
using onboard windows disk management i have made 75gb unallocated to add to the aforementioned ntfs data partition. but, after resizing extended partition, will i need to fix grub even though i will be adding the unallocated space to a storage partition and not the ubuntu boot partition?
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Jul 27, 2009
I have a brand new thinkpad X301 with 4GB of RAM and thinking of getting fedora 11 on it. The plan is to have it triple boot with vista/seven and hopefully OSx86. I am aware of the 4 primary partitions limit on an MBR disk. I was thinking of having a swap file instead of swap partition and not creating a boot partition as well. If I install the boot loader(GRUB?) on the root partition will I be able to boot it without any problems by using vista's boot loader?
Or Maybe I should install GRUB on the MBR and add all the other operating systems on it? Does anyone have any objections for not creating a swap partition or a boot partition? When comes to desktop environment I've been using KDE in the past, is there any major advantage of using Gnome over it? KDE seems to look really nice on fedora where Gnome is maybe more stable?
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Mar 7, 2010
I'm running 9.10 off of a 4 GiB CF card. I keep running into space issues with updates, so I purchased an 8 GiB replacement card. I've cloned the 4 GiB card to a .IMG file using DD.I've then copied the 4 GiB image back to the 8 GiB card using the Ubuntu startup disk creator program. Once done, I'm able to properly boot off of the new 8 GiB clone.Unfortunately, the clone ends up with 3.67 GiB of unallocated space at the end *see attached). I tried deleting the "extended" partition that the swap is located at after booting from a Live CD and the system was unable to boot after this. I was thinking that I would delete the swap entirely and create a swap file after I merged the existing partitions, but I was unable to do this.
best way to do this (e.g. get one large 8 GiB partition with my old image on it)? I still have the original untouched 4 GiB card and also have an external CF drive if I need to redo the cloning. I've also used Clonezilla before, so perhaps there's a way to do this that allow me to grow the image as it's being cloned.
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Nov 9, 2010
My laptop can't boot from cdrom becouse it is broken and it can't boot from USB becouse it has never been able. Ubuntu 8.10 now run in my laptop withgrub 1.I've just try the following trick.1) I put grub4dos in /boot2) I put iso image in /boot3) I add the follwing entrt in source.list
Code:
# =========== GRUB4GOS ===================================
title == Use grub4dos for the following entries: ==
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Jan 5, 2011
if having a boot partition is recommended for dual boot installation of Ubuntu 10.04 and Windows 7 and why?
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Feb 14, 2010
GNU GRUB 0.97
Ubuntu 8.04.4
2.6.24-26
Added an SSD (dev/sdc) and decided to move some less often changed directories there. Started with /usr and /boot, leaving / on a primary in the first drive, for now. All started ok, and my changed fstab mounted the right ones, and the system works.
However, grub is actually using the original /boot on / on sda1. I cannot see any way to change this. (Which makes it sorta hard to update the kernel
From grub:
Okay, since it has two choices, I tried to tell it which one to use. But, grub> root (hd2,5) does nothing.
Disk /dev/sda:
what I seem to recall, grub doesn't care about the boot flag on the disk. Nor does it care about primary vs. logical (except GNU doc says "makeactive" only works on a primary?).
The GNU doc also indicates that it looks for a directory /boot on the partition, so if you're mounting a partition as /boot, it also needs to contain a /boot directory under it. Tried that, but no change.
Is my problem the logical partition? Does that prevent "grub> root" from changing it? I'm afraid to wipe out the old /boot and find that I can't start up.
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Feb 15, 2010
After installing karmic with Grub2 I am unable to boot into Archlinux partition. Grub2 has removed the last line of the Archlinux boot stanza! It used to read:-
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Following the Grub2 tutorials I have tried editing /etc/grub.d/40_custom as follows:-
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But no luck. Only way into Archlinux is to get into the edit shell and manually add the missing line and remove other stuff not needed. I have spent hours trying to resolve this issue and I am fairly p----d off
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Mar 13, 2010
My most recent F11 -> F12 was a near-fiasco, because I had the bad luck of foolishly having two distinct physical drives in the same system, where the /(root) partition on each drive had exact same UUID (result of partition cloning and neglect to change the UUID on the copy)
BUT! the UUID redundancy was not the initial trigger of my problems (its near-disastrousness played itself out only while I was REMEDYING the initial problem). The initial trigger: insufficient space on my /boot partition. "preupgrade" neglected to properly assess the space and/or warn me about it before proceeding.
In addition, the automatic cycling out of grub kernel entries came to bite me (part of many factors of the near-fiasco) because after the unfinished upgrade i had only one working kernel left to boot into, until I messed up that remaining one (too long a story), and then grub-install messed up my booting because of duplicate UUID. At any rate, at the end of what looked like a good preupgrade-reboot-upgrade-package-install process the post-install phase lingered a looong time, then I found myself booted into the old Fedora 11 kernel with absolutely NO modules (corresponding /lib/modules had been erased by the upgrade!) Somehow the system ran, but no USB, no wifi, no ethernet, no way to easily place the right kernel rpm onto the hard drive (had to unscrew the drive,etc., to copy over the correct kernel rpm). (Plus, file /boot/preupgrade/vmlinuz, left over from the arrested upgrade, was NOT the right target upgrade kernel version (2.6.32.9-70.fc12), so it didn't help either because it didn't have its modules either. The target /lib/modules (version 2.6.32.9-70.fc12) WERE there, but the kernel itself was NOT, due to upgrade running out of space on the /boot partition).
(Oh, and the preupgrade/upgrade had deleted my /var/cache/yum/preupgrade/ packages; hence my inability to quickly (re)install the 2.6.32.9-70.fc12 kernel rpm -- why!? it hadn't successfully finished the process!)
(Also, FWIW, i ended up rescuing the system through "rpm -i --force <kernel>", many an F12 rescue boot, chrooting, /boot/grub/grub.conf & fstab edits, tune2fs/uuidgen, running grub on command-line ("setup (hd0)"), etc., etc.)
So, any tips out there on phasing out the old-school /boot partition scheme, the safest and easiest way (without destroying a working system, of course)?
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Jun 7, 2010
I am trying to install Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on a Windows XP Media Centre Edition system.On the Step 4 of the installation which usually gives you the option to partition the disk but it only gives me the option to Erase the entire disk or specify partition manually, although this also doesn't allow anything other than totally erasing the disk. I'd ideally like to keep my Windows and I have installed Ubuntu before (but 9.10) on a different system.
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Apr 8, 2010
i tried installing windows 7 on a partition on my laptop but i'm getting this message:"setup was unable to create a new partition or locate an existing system partition "i tried googling and found that it has something to do with the number of partitions:my hard disk layout right now:
p1 ext4 21gb /home
p2 ntfs 64gb
p3 ext3 18gb ubuntu installation
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Jul 22, 2010
Now however its not letting me resize the Windows partition, mounted or unmounted. It currently occupies the whole disk. I would rather not reinstall the whole thing over again, but I will if I have to. Isnt there an easy way to shrink a Windows partition? I swear Ive done this before and it wasnt this hard. Could it be a problem with the Mint installer that now asks me if I want to unmount my disks before it goes into install mode? On this PC I would like to have
Windows XP
Mint
Ubuntu-Studio
Edubuntu
One of the E17 OSs
Puppy Linux (to create a remix)
I am probably going to put most of the linux partitions on the second laptop drive but I want to install files on a non WIndows NTFS partition.
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Mar 29, 2011
i want to install opensuse on my new lap top i partition my hard (600gb) with 5 parts:
c: 97 gb
d: 150 gb
e: 150 gb
f: 100 gb
g: 50 gb
and 38 gb unlocated part
in opensuse instalation , the yast makes a 2gb for swap 14gb = root , 21 gb = home, but in Instalation Overview under Booting has a red error: the Boot loader Installed On a Partition that does not Lie Entirely Blew 128 GB .The system maight Not Boot;
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Oct 11, 2010
I want install 10.10 Maverick on a new partition alongside my OS X and 10.04 Lucid installs to see if it works on my machine. I'm a little unsure about some things.
1)Do I need to install the GRUB boot loader on this new partition?
2)Can I use the same swap space or is recommended to create a new swap?
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Feb 16, 2010
I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop (x200s, XPpro with 230 Gb), and created a 30Gb partition therefore. At the end of the install, the screen remained orange for a while, without any disk activity. I forced the laptot to reboot, but Ubntu was no option when the machine restarted. However, my XP partition has been reduced by 30 Gb. Does anybody have an idea about what I should do to either get Ubuntu installed or recover the disk space?
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May 19, 2011
I just did a fresh install of 11.4 and I LOVE IT!!! One of the little issues I am having though, is that there is no login screen. No matter what settings I change it still auto-logs me in.
I am using GRUB and the Boot Loader Location has both "Boot from MBR" and "Boot from Root Partition". Is this right? I would think that I should just boot from the MBR.
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Jun 30, 2011
I have a 500GB hard disk and divided to 3 partitions, 1 for windows, 1 for openSUSE and 1 for Ubuntu. i have installed and reinstalled linux on my laptop for many many times but it is like this, Grub 2 is installed to MBR and it workded fine but i want to add openSUSE and chose not to boot from MBR when installing it.i had to edit the menu.lst and got it to boot to Ubuntu partition. i also share file on partitions directly by booting to openSUSE and take data from Ubuntu and Windows partitions. so sometimes the pc boot i cannot scrool down the grub menu entry and it boot directly to openSUSE. BUT it returns to the start point ( i can see Dell booting, my laptop is Dell Inspiron N5010). and so i decided to reinstall Ubuntu(kubuntu) and set grub to install to its own partition not MBR.
Now i cannot boot to either openSUSE or Ubuntu. Only Windows is available by chance. new problems arise now that i cannot even boot the bootable CD. Did i loose the MBR or sth?
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May 21, 2010
I am trying to install a box here where my /storage partition is about 2.5T.I had setup the partitioning with suse, while testing, and all worked well.Now when trying to install CentOs 5.5 it gives me an error, that my boot partition is on a gpt partition and this machine cannot boot that.Also I don't see the option to create XFS partitions from the installer.Can 5.5 support GPT @ install time?
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Mar 1, 2010
i want to dual boot, and create ubuntu on a second partition, and while im at it remove the windows partition that i dont use on here at all
also, i want to run chkdsk first, does anyone know how i can do that on linux?
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Jan 21, 2010
I'm trying to understand how I can partition my hard disk to allow for a dual boot (Windows & Ubuntu) as well as allow access to a certain set of files from both Windows & Ubuntu. So far I understand that I'll need:
1 Windows boot partition ~2-4GB
1 Linux boot partition ~2-4GB
1 Linux swap partition ~1-2 GB
But I don't know:How can I keep my non-boot linux files & folders -- /home, /usr, etc. -- separate from the boot files? Do I need another partition? If yes, what size & format -- FAT32, ext3, etc. -- should it be?
If I separate, for instance, the "/home" folder only where do the remaining folders and files reside?
How can I access certain files with both Windows & Ubuntu? Do I need yet another partition, formatted in FAT32?
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Apr 24, 2010
I would like to install XP to /dev/sda5,sda6 being karmic. (I may have a dying dvd burner as was unable to install it yesterday but..) I got in a dreadful mess with grub after attempting to upgrade to Lucid,I needed to reinstall anyway. Will I be able to dual boot or should I just start from scratch?
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Apr 27, 2010
Ive decided to create a new thread because my old one had become rather complicated and now had a misleading title.
I have a laptop with Windows XP and because of a few programs I want to keep it on and dual boot with Ubuntu. I have created a boot partition at the beginning of the harddisk because I had broken the 137gb and cant keep Ubuntu at the end and still make it bootable.
The separate boot partition is at the beginning of the disk and mounted as /boot in the installation.
The system still cant boot into Ubuntu, but at least grub shows up with a decent menu and I can choose Windows. When I try to choose Ubuntu it says that it cant find the specific drive. The UUID is the same as the boot partition
So what should I do now ? Should I change fstab and move some files to the boot partition ? Id rather not move the entire Ubuntu partition to the front.
Here is my boot info script
Code:
Boot Info Summary:
sda1:
sda2:
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Jun 30, 2010
I just got a new Toshiba Satellite 64bit laptop with 4bg of ram and a 640gb hard drive, I want to dual boot windows 7 and Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Links and I had the guys at Best Buy make me a partition so that if something went wrong with the partition it would possibly be on them. the issue I'm running into is that I can't seem to figure out how to boot to the "S" partition on my hard drive when installing Lucid Links via a USB key.
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Aug 1, 2010
I have been looking around and cant really find a guide on how to do this, I have found guides on how-to put a live CD on a usb flash drive, but this isnt want i want to doI want to use a high-end USB flash drive as a sort of SSD to put my boot partition on, I think if i do this it will decrease my boot time significantly. If it works i am going to take the back case off of my laptop and install the guts of the flash drive inside my laptop, i think the mod would be cool, i just dont know how to do it on the software side
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Sep 1, 2011
i wanted to dual boot lubuntu and my existing windows xp. i installed lubuntu 8.10 and everything was fine at boot. i could boot in to either then i upgraded lubuntu to 9.04 and windows was gone from grub? can i delete my lubuntu partition and windows will boot again?
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Nov 17, 2010
I downloaded Ubuntu and burned it to a CD-There was no problem with that part. It starts to install asks about the partition then the keyboard. Then it just stops and does nothing.
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Jan 26, 2010
P4 2.4gHZ 2.0GB Ram I have tried to do some reading on this by googling and such, but it is all a bit overwhelming and so many posts/articles want to deal with dual booting which I am not planning to do on this machine. I am trying to find some info on whether it is better to have a separate boot partition. As in, separate from root partition. I have read that a separate boot partition makes for a quicker start and better recovery if system crashes. I will shortly be installing openSuse 11.2(KDE) [currently on 11.0] and I want to optimise the partition scheme so that it is the most efficient. I have a 160GB HDD that will be housing this new installation, so space is not a problem. I am only user on this machine. Currently, it is just partitioned as such:
2.0GB - swap [because I read it should equal Ram]
32.0GB - /
40.0GB - /home
76.8GB - extra storage [Not really necessary as I have 2 other HDD on system 1 - 320GB and 1 - 200GB]
Also, is it recommended to have separate partitions for /tmp /var or any other /nnn ?
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