OpenSUSE Install :: Getting The 11.4 With No Bootloader?
Apr 18, 2011
Playing on a test rig here and I want to install openSUSE in an already multi-boot Ubuntu family environment. All the 'Buntus play together nicely with grub 1.89, learning the ins-and-outs of which appears to be a lifetime endeavor.SUSE appears to be still on legacy grub, and I don't want that to take over from (almost) grub 2.0. It's fairly trivial to add things to the newer grub. Question is can I install SUSE and tell it NOT to install a bootloader at all?
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Nov 7, 2010
I have a major problem installing opensuse 11.3 on my computer( hp pavilion dv6).I downloaded openSUSE-11.3-GNOME-LiveCD-x86_64 from software.opensuse.org: Download openSUSE 11.3 and made a live usb.I'm a newbie at using linux infact i never used another operating system beside windows.Now i have installed windows 7 (on c disk 100gb).My first problem when i am trying to install opensuse is that he dosn't automatic choose to make my partitions so i have to do it manualy.I was searching how to make it the best way so i desited to make 4 partitons one for ' /boot' one for ' / 'one for '/home' and a swap partition/In windows7 i made 4 new partitons
3:10 gb for /boot
4:10 gb for/
5:70 gb for /user
6:10 gb for /swap
My first question is :Is this right to make 4 paritions in windows (opensuse can't format or resize my partitions it just can edit it ) so it's my only way to make partitions( If this is wrong how can i make partitions then)
My second question is how to change the bootloader configurtation because everytime when ii try to install opensuse it stops at about 96% and it says to reconfigure the bootloader options.
If i skip this i get the folowing message
=== System Checking ===
Checking for /usr/bin/chroot binary... Passed
Checking for chroot directory /mnt... Passed
Checking for chroot directory content (bin
boot
Checking for binary /mnt/bin/ls... Passed
Trying to chroot... Failed
This is worth reporting a bug at url.
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Feb 16, 2010
I've got a multiboot system with Windozin the first drive and first partition like everyone recommends. I have several distro's and just let them install their bootloaders, but always on hd0 mbr. I installed Debian 5.0.1 this way and it wouldn't boot, so I got SGD to "fix" it, which it said was successful, but all I get is a partition doesn't exist when I try to boot. I put Debian on /dev/sdb3, I loaded Linux Rescueand mounted sdb3 and verified that its menu.lst had the right boot numbers (hd1,2). fdisk even showns /dev/sdb3 as boot as shown by the asterisk under the boot column. Should I do a complete reinstall of grub, maybe using one of the other distro's as the holder of grub? At one time they did all the grub launching as each addition was made
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Feb 25, 2011
Currently I am running a dual boot with Windows 7 and openSUSE 11.3. Windows has two partitions, one for the system partition and another for the OS. I have 3 Linux partitions (swap, root, and home). Obviously I am running GRUB to boot, but this seems to be impacting my ability to install Windows 7 SP1. I would like to revert back to the Windows boot loader, install the Service Pack, and then revert back to GRUB. How do I do this?
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May 1, 2011
I need to reinstall the 11.4 bootloader (but to the root partition instead of the MBR). There used to be an automated repair GUI on the 11.1 DVD, but it seems to be gone from the 11.4 distro. Is it someplace special I can find it? Can I use my 11.1 DVD to just (easily) reinstall the bootloader? I am *not* a command-line person!!
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Dec 20, 2009
I have a computer with windows XP on it. I want to put openSUSE on it with windows xp, but want to use my windows boot loader. How to make an entry. I should mention that I am going to put openSUSE on a second Hard drive.
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Mar 14, 2010
I have called, I hope correctly, the first screen you see after the BIOS details - "the bootloader screen". If that is not the correct term, then I mean the screen against which GRUB displays your various OS boot options. For some reason, the bootloader screen only occupies the middle half of my widescreen monitor. The bootsplash screens and the login screen which come after it display correctly. I think they are controlled by the command vga=0x348Is there a way of stretching the bootloader screen so that, like the bootsplash screens and login screen, it extends to the full width of the monitor
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Aug 3, 2010
I just upgraded two 11.2 installations. One I easily managed from the dvd the other I had to install anew as the cd didn't offer the possibility of upgrading. While I appreciated the many improvements in desktop stability I found I am non very satisfied of the installer.
It became minimal and just does what IT wants and not what I want anymore. I miss the possibility of choosing desktops, programmes and settings during installation. Most of all I miss the possibility of choosing the bootloader and its location. I have a multi boot multi disk machine and I prefer to modify entries by hand so i never install the loader but add the new entry in the grub but this was not possible and it made just a mess erasing completely all other entries....
Booting has always been a great problem for one of my machines and I'm not going to upgrade it if thisi is the result. Is there a way of going back to the old options (no loader?) Why are the new installer always "easier" but less flexible for a user who's not geek but not even a newbie? Why does it have always to be more "Windows like"
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May 23, 2011
I'm trying to install a password on the Grub bootloader on my 11.2 box. I ran yast2 bootloader then clicked on bootloader options, then the checkbox for using a password, and then typed in my password twice. It isn't working. I've tried various different passwords to see if something was throwing it off like special characters or too many characters but no matter what I do I can't use the password to unlock the bootloader on bootup. It just tells me that I entered the incorrect password.
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Aug 6, 2011
Because I had Windows installed first, the bootloader was located in that drives master boot record and the openSUSE drive was slaved to it. Now that Windows is gone and the Linux drive is bigger and faster (although the same Ide (pata) ata rating. There are no sata devices in my system.) I want to reverse the master slave relationship between those two drives and put the bootloader on the openSUSE drive.
At the moment a single instance of openSUSE 11.4 is the only operating system installed on the computer I'm talking about.
What procedure should follow to accomplish that?
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Aug 14, 2010
I have made the mistake of installing windows XP on one of my drive after I've upgraded to opensuse 11.3 on my other drive. Now, my computer is always booting to XP and doesn't load Grub anymore... I guess I should have seen it coming I previously had similar problems with my boot loader which I could resolve using the Repair boot loader utility distributed with the installation DVD. Apparently, this utility is not distributed anymore with opensuse 11.3... so I'm a little lost. I'd like a bit of advise before I start messing with Yast / boot loader and potentially break everything.
My system is setup as follows: sda is partitioned into sda1 (swap), sda2 (root / in ext4), sd3 (/home in ext3) and sd4 (/windows/F in NTFS containing virtual machines) sdb is partitioned into sdb1 (my Windows XP install in NTFS) and sdb2 (another storage drive in NTFS).
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Dec 27, 2009
Since I had a little time on my hand over christmas break, I decided to do my sister a favor and install linux on her computer (consentually, mind you). But so far, I've caused nothing but trouble, since I can't get Suse to boot. I've reinstalled over and over and over, but everytime I install and reboot, the computer complains that there is no operating system installed.
After a while of reinstalling, I tried to install a boot loader from the live cd instead, but when I open yast to do this, it compains that 'because of the partitions, the bootloader can't be installed properly'.
I've tried pretty much about everything, but nothing seems to work.
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Jan 30, 2010
I am new to this forum as i have installed suse 11.2 now. I am using ubuntu from a long time so decided to try other distro along with karmic. I had lost ubuntu grub after suse installation. Suse bootloader doesnt detect ubuntu partiton. I had tried to edit grub list but failed.
I have added following ubuntu details to suse bootloader:
Below is my HDD partiton details:
How should i boot ubuntu from suse bootloader
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Mar 9, 2010
I had windows 7 on my computer on drive D,then I installed opensuse 11.2 on space of drive C. But when I restarted my computer,I couldn't see windows 7 bootloader on the list, all of the options related to opensuse.
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Jun 16, 2010
I am trying to install suse 11 on an ibm x3400 m2 machine. After installing the various packages, i get the following error :
Error while installing initrd
Error while installing grub
There are 2 500GB hard disks on which i have configured RAID-1.let me know what the issue could be as I am new to linux.
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Jul 28, 2010
I want to install opensuse 11.3, and I get a newer computer to install it(X64), but every time I install, I have been stop at "saving bootloader config" (96%). I have waited for a long time, but no use.
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Aug 25, 2010
Ages ago I installed Linux on a "spare" 40GB disk and I don't remember how, but that disk is where I still boot the computer from, in Bios it's listed as a primary master and HD0.
Over the time my installs moved to the "main" disk where it is now Suse 11.3 alongside Windows.
I want to get rid of that original "spare" disk altogether, physically take it out, but don't know how to move the bootloader to the "main" one.
I'm confused by all the options offered in Yast Boot Loader Location menu.
Can I just tell it to put itself into a custom boot partition and point it to dev/sdb, the current designation of the "main" disk?
Would I need to edit Grub as well? I figure the current "sdb" would be called "sda" after I take the old disk out. Would it be safe to simply rename /sdb entries, things like /sdb4 to /sda4 and so on?
Additional question - I used to play with Win7 demo, deleted that now, but its loader still pops up when I boot into Windows with their "earlier version of operating system" menu. Their offered solution is to run "mbrfix" from a WinXp recovery CD.
My question - what would that mbrfix do to the Linux bootloader and how can I get it to point back to to Grub afterwards?
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Nov 23, 2010
I've tried to install opensuse in a dual boot with xp. I've got an extended partition with root home and swap and primary partitions for xp and boot. The installation freezes at 92% while installing the bootloader, I've tried installing from cd and from usb, with or without boot partition and nothing changed.
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Apr 13, 2011
I installed Gnome 3 on a free partition of my netbook but I lost the boot to my suse kde...(MBR). I launched a live CD on USB but cannot restore Grub; the only way is to reinstall the KDE. Then it boots but does not show Gnome 3. Why the installer does not take into account both OS?
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Aug 14, 2011
I use full encryption on this net-book, with the help of LUKS. One key part of the setup is to configure /etc/sysconfig/bootloader with the initial boot options (along the lines of
Code:
root=/dev/mapper/root luks_root=/dev/sda5 luks_home=/dev/sda5 luks_swap=/dev/sda2 luks="root home swap"
). That way a kernel update is installed properly, usually...
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Nov 26, 2009
After one of the updates (the same day as the kernel was updated) my Startup Theme has been changed from standard SUSE light-green to a dark SUSE EDUCATION.
I'm not talking about GDM logon (this is OK) and not about Bootloader screen (also OK).
I meant a progress of the SUSE loading.
I have Open SUSE 11.1 with GNOME and some software from EDUCATION repo but not a Education release.
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Jul 19, 2010
OpenSUSE 11.3 x86_64 Live USB disk only one HDD with OpenSUSE as the only OS.the HDD is fine so i know it is not a hardware problem.this is different from my other (grub) problem as this is a different PC.the installer has been stuck for over an hour at 92%/Saving Bootloader configuration.maybe i can try the installer in text mode to get more info? is there a text mode for the installer?
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Mar 12, 2011
I'm trying to install opensuse 11.4 but I got this error:
"The bootloader is installed on a partition that does not lie entierly below 128 gb. The system might not boot if BIOS support only lba24(result is error 18 during install grub MBR)"
What should I do before click next step to install? I installed opensuse with this error and some times opensuse can boot and some not. At least I was able to boot safemode.
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Apr 16, 2011
I have three drives on my system and I want to put 11.4 on the third drive. My BIOS can select which drive I am going to boot from. I don't want my Windows 7 or Windows XP drives included in grub or grub to over write/install the bootloader on any other drive except the one I am installing 11.4 on how do I do that?
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Jan 16, 2011
I want to be able to install openSUSE without it's bootloader, because I already have Ubuntu's bootloader and I don't want to have to re-configure everything.
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Jun 8, 2011
I installed opensuse in my laptop in which I already installed opensuse.Now the grub shows first, on boot up. I want to set windows bootloader in front. In order to do that, I did the following,
1. unmount all devices "umount /windows/*"
2. my hard disk partition:- see the link cfdisk /dev/sda | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
3. mount the C drive (where win 7 is installed)
"ntfs-3g /dev/sda3 /mnt/windows -o force "
4. dd if=/dev/sda8 of=/mnt/windows/suse.bin bs=512 count=1
5. kwrite /mnt/windows/boot.ini and write the following,
[boot loader]
timeout=15
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)c: suse.bin
[operating systems]
c: suse.bin="openSUSE"
6. change the boot to sda3 using "sudo /sbin/cfdisk /dev/sda"
Problem is,
now windows bootloader shows when boot up, showing two options,
windows
openSUSE
windows option works normally; but openSUSE option doesn't work.
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Aug 7, 2010
borked the bootloader by my own doing. When I got this machine, I had a single HDD. I partitioned it with a primary partition for Windows, followed by an extended partition with swap, /home/ and /, as well as a FAT32 partition for "general" data. (this was before NTFS write support was common) This worked well with the Win2K install. Eventually, I added a second HDD, which became part data storage, and part Windows XP install. I eventually put Win7 on it, and pulled the other HDD during setup so that the boot order of the drives determines whether I boot Win7/XP or get GRUB.
However, my "data" partition was not visible in Win7... It shows up as an unknown FS in the disk management. OK, I thought. I used Paragon partitioning software to move the "data" partition out of the extended partition and make it a primary. I could now access it from Win7. I didn't realize I had GRUB set to boot from the extended partition, so now when I boot from that HDD, I get "no operating system". No problem, I thought. I'll pop in the install CD (NET), use it to boot the installed 11.3, and run the boot loader setup. Nope- setup just hangs. Tried it with an 11.2 DVD... doing a "boot installed system" nets me a few moments of searching, "evaluating root partition", and then "no valid linux install found". Trying the boot loader reinstall from there nets me an "error changing to target environment" and the install fails.
I can still mount the / partition via rescue mode and all files appear to be intact, so I don't think I've lost any data... just grub/the MBR is borked. I've already moved the data partition back in to the extended partition but no luck. Still the same story... thus I'm stuck booting Windows until I fix this.
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Feb 20, 2010
In installing 11.2M2 I get a message in the Installation Screen indicating that
booting sees an "Unsupported combination of hardware platform x86_64 and
bootloader grub".
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Oct 12, 2010
I installed Ubuntu no problem, except for when it came to picking the location for GRUB2 to go, the bootloader.It error'd out on me, and would not let me select a single location, so I clicked continue without, and I'd install it manually. Well, once it got to the manual part, it said everything was kosher, but when I reboot, I am greeted with a black terminal screen.It tells me to hit tab for commands. What exactly did I do wrong, and how may I fix this? Do I need to reinstall ubuntu? I'm running off the LiveCD right now, and it's ok, but I really hate having to use a CD to even boot up.
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May 30, 2010
I've been using Ubuntu on my servers, deskto PC and laptop. But this time I decided to give a try for Fedora 13. Earlier my tests failed because of nVidia driver installation for every kernel update was so pain for me. Fedora's Live CD is quite stripped. It has good tools installed but it's missing OpenOffice.org. That should be mostly for demostration to Windows users.Installation with Live CD is straight forward even I haven't tried with Windows partitions (shrink or so). Ubuntu can be installed inside Windows drive (into loop file) without shrinking partitions. I don't know if Fedora can do the same.
But issues what I have got even before getting in... Disk partition tools are very great. But when I tried to install Fedora into LVM without using separate /boot partition - that failed. I am using Ubuntu's GRUB2 and it can boot from LVM root directly. And I thought Fedora-13 can do the same. I have been installing Red Hat Enterprise Linuxes many many times. And there is an option to skip bootloader installation. Why it is missing on Fedora? I just want Fedora into LVM without anything else. Ubuntu's GRUB2 can boot from Fedora's /boot -directory even it's on LVM. If I get Fedora installed.
So error what I get trying to install Fedora...Harddrive sda has just one big LVM partition, nothing else. Ubuntu GRUB2 is on MBR.I have just one 10Gb LV for Fedora, existing /home and swap. Plus Ubuntu's own root partition what I don't need with Fedora.partitioning program is completed as I like but then I get error message: Bootable partitions cannot be on a logical volume. I have tried to install using Live CD, DVD with graphics and text modes. None of them gives me option to skip installing bootloader. Another option I had on my mind is that I could try to use USB memory stick to have /boot. But I'm not sure if it works and installer will overwrite my existing GRUB2 on sda. If it works then I could move /boot -stuff into LVM and tell Ubuntu's GRUB2 to boot from Fedora's root LVM.
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