Software :: Alternatives To GRUB And LILO?

Sep 22, 2010

I'm looking for an alternative boot loader (for hard drive) to get away from GRUB and LILO. I want something that is not bloated like GRUB and does not require rebuilding a table of block numbers like LILO. Something simple and basic ... like a boot loader should be.

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Debian :: Replacing LILO With GRUB?

Apr 13, 2011

I'm trying to go from LILO to GRUB (legacy). However, when I try to "sudo grub-install /dev/sdb", I get: [URL]

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General :: Booting Without Using Grub / Lilo

Apr 21, 2010

I work in a very restrictive environment and I want to use linux on my work laptop (currently running Windows XP prof). I am planning to install linux in a dual boot mode but I dont want to install grub/lilo or any other boot loader. i cannot even modify Windows bootloader to boot into linux partition.

Is there a way I can boot into linux partition without installing new boot loader or modifying the current windows boot loader? Any boot CD etc available that can boot into linux partition from my laptops HDD?

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Slackware :: Using Lilo To Boot Instead Of Grub?

Jun 18, 2011

I just installed Slackware 13.37, and it's my first version of Slack.

After installing, Grub was still installed on my system, but since it is supposed to boot an OS that's no longer on the hard drive by default, it drops to the Grub Rescue prompt every time I boot.

How can I boot Slackware from grub, or get lilo to boot my system instead of grub?

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OpenSUSE Install :: Difference Between GRUB And LILO?

Jul 23, 2010

LILO not supported?

Does anyone know the diff between GRUB and LILO?

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Red Hat / Fedora :: Difference Between Grub,LILo And Uboot

Jul 7, 2010

Difference between Grub,LILo and Uboot loaders

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General :: Install Grub Or Lilo To A Directory?

Feb 12, 2010

since ms dos wasn't meant to be booted from cd (it was used from floppy) and i have tried buring the contents of every ms dos floppy to a cd and no dice i am guessing that it needs a bootloader so i can boot up the setup wizard

before anyone suggests that this thread has nothing to do with linux i will just point out that this thread is asking about grub and that is a linux catagorie

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General :: Neither GRUB Nor LILO Can Find Stage 2?

Nov 17, 2010

This post has been updated with new information. First, here's fdisk -l:

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Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

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Software :: Reinstalling Lilo To Kill A GRUB?

Nov 5, 2009

I have 2 drives, the first has Slackware 13.0 and FreeBSD 7.2. The second has Windows 7. Lilo configured to boot all three, no issues. Perfect. The first drive has 100GB of free space after FreeBSD and today I decided to install Open Solaris on that free space. The install failed, as in Solaris displayed such a message. I did read the Solaris install docs, etc. And it did mention no to install unless it preceded any Linux Swap partitions. There are, I did, but that's not my issue now.

After rebooting, it amazingly loaded FreeBSD by default. No Slackware. So I booted the slackware DVD, ran fdisk and made Slackware the default boot partition, yada yada. Now when it rebooted it gave a little message down in the left hand corner of the screen like "RRG B" highlighted in a red box. Now pressing enter will cause Windows 7 to boot from the second disk. I mounted the slackware partition from the DVD and am there now. Will just running lilo again put everything back to normal? Apparently Solaris left behind a piece of that ill behaved GRUB! (No flames!!!) :-) How do I make it go away?

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Debian Configuration :: LILO As A Boot Loader From Grub

Aug 26, 2015

I am thinking about maybe trying "LILO" [URL] ....

For my boot loader, from what I have read it sounds even more tempting.

I am totally sick of GRUB, even though it is what seems to be the most popular,and is what normally is used as the "default" when any linux system is installed, that is what the install ISO's use, but anyway, that is another topic, over the years, "grub failing", has been a problem for me , many times.

I saw this (From LILO to GRUB Howto).

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Software :: LILO Boots New Install; GRUB Doesn't?

Mar 28, 2011

I have one install (Slack 12.2) on /dev/sda11, and GRUB (GNU GRUB 0.97) boots it without a problem. I just installed a new Slack 13.1 on /dev/sda1, and GRUB fails to boot it as follows:Quote:

grub> root(hd0,0)
> Filesystem id type ext2fs, partition type 0x83
grub> kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1

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Slackware :: Grub/ Grub2/ Lilo - Can't Install Any Of Them Properly?

Nov 15, 2010

I usually install grub straight away after an install but this time it hasn�t worked for some reason after installing 13.1 on a new lappy. I have tried grub, grub2 (from sbo) and lilo; nothing I install into MBR will boot my slackware installation, I have to use the boot USB stick every time.

grub-legacy would be my preferred one so i�ll ask for help specifically with that. This is what im doing so far -

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Fedora Installation :: GRUB/LILO: Getting The Location Of The Boot Partition?

Feb 13, 2009

I somehow recalled a rule re the location of the boot partitions with LILO being required to be in the first part of the drive (1024 cylinders, it seems) and I found it indeed in an old doc:

Boot Partition: Your boot partition ought to be a primary partition, not a logical partition. This will ease recovery in case of disaster, but it is not technically necessary. It must be of type 0x83 "Linux native". If you are using lilo, your boot partition must be contained within the first 1024 cylinders of the drive. (Typically, the boot partition need only contain the kernel image.) Is this still valid in GRUB, esp in Fedora 10?

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General :: LILO/GRUB - Dual Boot Half Broken

Jun 26, 2010

I've run Debian on my laptop for quite some time now with no problems. I installed Slack to a new partition created in the free space of my hard drive, and I thik this was my mistake: I let Slack automatically configure the MBR with lilo (can't remember - I should stop operating on the MBR at 4 AM.) Now Slack runs just fine, but upon bootup I would like to be able to boot either Debian or Slack, but instead I just have a Slack splash and the only option is to press enter to boot Slack.

Code:

I believe sda1 is the root directory of my Debian install.

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In the above table, sda10 is the swap I created for Slack and sda3 is the root directory for Slack. All other partitions were there before (my initial Debian install).

Thus my partitions are apparently intact and visible by the MBR (is it correct that the MBR holds the list of partitions on a disk?) but for some reason I don't have the option to boot Debian at all - just Slack.

I have a feeling this is a LILO/GRUB issue, but I don't know where to start.

EDIT: more poking around seems to reveal that it is the configuration of LILO that is the problem. Observe the following output:

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Hardware :: Can't Install Boot Loader - Both Grub And Lilo Failed / Resolve This?

Jan 17, 2010

I have a Dell Inspiron 1721. Recently I replaced Windows Vista Home Edition (32 bit) with Slackware Linux 13.

Lilo wouldn't work, when I turned on the computer it printed "Li" and then 20 lines of 090909... and then the computer would hang up. So I just used my Slackware-boot-flashdrive-thing that I created during installation to boot my computer and told myself that I would fix it later.

Also, when I installed, cfdisk (or it might have been sfdisk) complained that /dev/sda did not contain a valid MS-DOS partition table. fdisk still worked, so I used it to create a new table, and cfdisk worked fine and the installation went along normally.

I reinstalled Slackware about two days later (I realized that I had installed the 32 bit version instead of the 64 bit). Lilo still didn't work.

I thought it might be something wrong with the Slackware DVD, so I downloaded and attempted to install about 4 different distributions. None of the CDs would work. The computer would start up, Linux would start to load, and the computer would freeze.

Xubuntu was the only distro I had that I could get to install. Halfway through the installation, (Surprise!) I got an error, something like "Package Grub failed to install, you will not be able to boot your new operating system".

The rest of the install went fine, so I restarted my computer and tried to use another one of my CDs to boot Xubuntu. I got the error "/dev/sda does not contain a valid partition table", and later "ext4-fs: checksum failed on dev sda at sector...", and "please specify a valid partition for root=". I am absolutely positive that I entered the correct partition, I triple checked and entered other partition names to make sure.

I'd also like to add that the computer makes horrible crunching noises when it starts up and when I do stuff like press keys. So is something seriously wrong with my hardware, or is there another explanation for all of this? Because I really don't want to have to try to repair the computer and can't pay to have it repaired.

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Debian :: LILO / Chroot - "EBDA Is Big: Kernel Setup Stack Overlaps LILO Second Stage" Error After Reboot

Oct 16, 2010

I'm fairly new to linux, and a few days ago, as I was updating my system, I got the "EBDA is big ; kernel setup stack overlaps LILO second stage" error after reboot. I use a 3- boot, ( Win XP / Debian / Debian) and Windows XP works fine, but I can't launch any of the Debian. I googled the message, and I found this link :
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The only problem problem is that when I try to chroot, I got another message, "chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory" I googled this message too, but found no relevant answers. I am now using a knoppix usb drive to try to repair the lilo, but I ran out of ideas ...

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Ubuntu :: Any Alternatives To Pan?

Nov 14, 2010

I am having with Pan and can't seem to get any love. I'm ready to just scrap Pan but I can't find an alternative.Does anyone know of anything similar that, you know, actually works?

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Software :: Getting The Alternatives To OO.o?

Sep 8, 2010

Oracle has left a bad taste in my mouth as of late, and I'm looking to remove any software affiliated with them from my machine. I haven't had any problems in terms of finding replacements until I came to OpenOffice, of which I have been a user for years.

I am aware of the existence of Gnome Office and KOffice and have been tinkering with both, but I am curious as to whether or not anyone here on LQ has found a more suitable replacement.Here's hoping someone forks OO.o before Oracle pulls another stunt.

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Fedora :: F15 Gnome3 Alternatives?

Jun 24, 2011

F15 running on my Dell Latitude 505 laptop. During installation (last week) I got "Gnome3 not fully supported - using fallback mode". I found out later that my Intel 855 video doesn't support 3D, which Gnome3 requires.

System seems to run fine and boots into fallback video. But I'd sure like to have access to my "desktop" so I can drag and drop folders, etc. there. Currently I now have to open the Desktop folder, and then drag and drop, etc. And without an "active" desktop screen, added devices (external drives, cameras, etc.) don't show up unless I open the Desktop folder. Is there an alternative to Gnome3 I can install? I assume without the need for 3D which my Intel video 855 doesn't support.

If there's an alternative or two, could someone point me to exactly how to install them? If there's a more appropriate forum here for this request,

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General :: What Alternatives To SSH Do GNU Users Use

Aug 23, 2010

I have heard that SSH was originally for BSD. Is this correct? And what alternatives to SSH do GNU users use? Or do people just not use GNU for SSH or an SSH type application?

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Ubuntu :: Alternatives To X11 For System?

Aug 31, 2010

So, are there any alternatives to X for Linux? I often hear about other DEs that run on X11 or X, but I have read here and there that there are some alternatives that have picked up a little steam lately, but I know absolutely nothing about them.

What are these alternatives and how would you go about trying them? Are there any live distros that use anything but X?

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Slackware :: Any Alternatives For KDE Applications?

Jun 7, 2011

If Slackware didn't include KDE:
1) Which KDE apps would you miss?
2) Which alternatives for these apps would you suggest?
Proposing GNOME apps instead is considered bad practice, as there is no sign of GNOME being re-included in Slackware in a foreseeable future.

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General :: Alternatives To Citrix GoToAssist?

Jun 3, 2010

What's the best Remote Desktop Application? Citrix GoToAssist is a really nifty little web application for customer support that allows you to take control of someones OSX, or Windows machine. Essentially, it works likes this:

You log in to your management console You get a code You give them a code, and a website (fastsupport.com) They go there and enter in the code They accept the browser applet which installs a program on their computer You have control of their desktop

You can see their desktop, configure applications, etc. They can also see when you disconnect. It is really rather nifty, but it doesn't support Linux and it is rather expensive (660$ a year). Does anyone know of any alternatives to this? I'm looking for a solution as simple on the user as this one, that doesn't require firewall configuration or setting up ssh/vnc/rdesktop etc.

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Ubuntu :: Finding The Alternatives To Nautilus?

Feb 10, 2010

if there were any (better?) alternatives to Nautilus.

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Ubuntu :: ConvertXtoDvd & VirtualDub Alternatives?

Aug 19, 2010

I'm completely new to Ubuntu and recently installed Ubuntu 10.4 and looking for linux equivelants of the programmes in the title?

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Ubuntu :: Are There Other Alternatives For Panel / Dock

Mar 6, 2011

Are there other alternatives for panel/dock in ubuntu.? I'm bored with docks providing Mac feel or ubuntu panels. Is there a way i can replace my panels with something like shown in this video: URL...

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Ubuntu :: Any Secure Alternatives To Skype?

Mar 20, 2011

The first need is to have easy cross system compatibility. Meaning Windows included. Audio/Video would be a plus, but it is not a must. I need something that goes through SSL or something like that and not in plain view.

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Ubuntu :: Finding The Alternatives For Brasero?

May 29, 2011

I'm planning to begin using K3B to burn backup data DVDs. Brasero kinda disappoints as burning software. It can't verify the data after a burn. It only offers the maximum burn speed. It doesn't off options like Disk At Once and Track At Once. K3B is oriented towards KDE. Are there any other GNOME burning choices than Brasero?

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General :: Alternatives For The Ulimit Command?

May 26, 2010

I want to call/run an .exe file from a perl file as so:

Code:

my $cmd=`runner.exe`;

I want to limit the time I want it to run (say 20 seconds).

ulimit should do it as so:

Code:

my $cmd=`ulimit -t 20; runner.exe`;

but I get this:

Quote:

sh: line 0: ulimit: cpu time: cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted

any alternatives that can do the same thing as ulimit? even if it's just for this one process (runner.exe)

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General :: How Does The Etc/alternatives System Work

Jan 17, 2010

I've been a Java developer for some time now and I always wind up removing a bunch of stuff from /etc/alternatives in favor of one of several freshly downloaded official Sun JDKs I've installed myself. I don't like circumventing things unnecessarily, though and I also don't like "re-inventing the wheel", either. If I had a better idea of how that system worked, perhaps it would not be required. I mean I usually write a script to switch between jdk's for different projects but perhaps I would not need a script if I knew how this worked

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