Debian Configuration :: Dell Studio 1569 Heating Up And Battery Life
Feb 24, 2011
First issue is, now that I am running Debian "Squeeze", my laptop runs much hotter than before. Its definitely hot on the very bottom compared to when running Windows. Once the system begins to heat up, the fans start spinning faster, the system gets louder, etc.
Second issue is battery life. I am able to get 5 hours out of the laptop in Windows, but maybe 2.5 hours in Debian. I am assuming that these two problems go hand in hand. Now from experience with PC hardware, I know that the newer chips scale their frequency and voltage depending on demand. I don't think the computer is doing this correctly when running Linux.
By running
cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/throttling
I see that the CPU(s) are in T0 state (or 100%). Manually setting the frequency doesn't change anything either (via the gnome applet). Am I diagnosing this correctly?
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Jan 8, 2011
I bought a dell mini 10v last spring and I have always gotten around 2-2.5 hrs max battery life. Is that all this 3-cell can pull off?
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Mar 2, 2010
getting back to our laptop, the stability window is ~3.2V. Meaning that when you operate the battery above this the electrolyte is oxidized on the positive electrode and reduced on the negative electrode. Remember that we only want to oxidize and reduce the active materials and don't want to do anything else. All these reactions other than the ones we want are called side reactions and these are really bad for the battery. The nominal voltage of a laptop battery is 3.7 V which means that something bad wants to happen as we use the battery.So long story short, stuff (e.g., passive layers and poor kinetics of reactions) happens and things are not as bad as they seem and you can increase the voltage up to 4.2V without bad things really happening. All chargers for Li-ion cells today cut the battery off when it reaches 4.2V. What you have to realize is that at 4.2V, these side reactions are present in finite amounts and start to chemically kill the battery, but its not that dramatic.
Operating to 4.1V makes things better and extends the life, 4.0 V is even better and so on. So why don't battery manufacturers cut the voltage off at, say, 4 V to get better battery life? Because every time you cut this voltage down you decrease the capacity of the battery and its run time. The 4.2V cutoff is a compromise between good run time and decent (read "not pathetic) life.On the other hand, if you charge the battery and then pull the plug (so to speak), the battery discharges some, the voltage drops, and these reactions become less of a problem and your battery life goes up. So the best things you can do is to charge the laptop (or cell phone, camera etc.) and once its charged, pull the plug. Your battery will thank you for it.As a matter of fact, if you own a Lenovo Thinkpad, you can actually change the state of charge to which you charge the battery using the Battery Maintenance utility. You can change this from charging to 100% state (where the voltage is 4.2V) to 90% so that your voltage is less. You lose some energy is doing that, but atleast you can change it to 100% when you need battery power and put it back down to 90% when you can plug in. I wish my Mac has the same feature.
I typically use the battery for a while (say 1/2 hour to 1 hour), then plug it in and wait to fully charge it, then I pull the plug and use it again for 1/2 hour to 1h and then I repeat this. Takes some getting used to and I forget to do this, but I try.
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Nov 22, 2010
To begin with i have a Sony Vaio VPCEB24EN Laptop with configuration
Intel core i3 Processor
3 GB RAM
ATI Radeon HD 5145, 512 MB
Installation of Ubuntu 10.10 Notbook edition make my lappy extremly hot in comparison to Windows 7, which includes degrading my battery performance from 3 hours to 45 min. As my CPU uses is normal, i deduce that my Graphics might be the cause of the heat and power consumption. Tried installing proprietory drivers from Get Software -> System -> Additional Drivers, which maximized the problem. My screen keep freezing now and then. So i uninstalled the driver and downloaded ati-driver-installer-10-11-x86.x86_64.run from ati site. While install it has issue of its own. The text written in the installer is invisible. [A print screen is attached]. This is to mention that the core fonts are installed in the system. I shall be glad if anyone have the solution for my problems
1. Over heating and battery backup issue.
2. ATI catalyst font issue.
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Aug 31, 2010
I have a 3 year old laptop with the original battery and its drained pretty bad. The "Battery may be broken" popup was driving me insane and this is how you disable it, in case you are in the same situation as me. Open terminal
Code:
gconf-editor
Drill down to...
apps --> gnome-power-manager --> notify
uncheck the low_capacity checkbox. This should disable the popup for you if your battery has little life left in it. Now, if any knows how to disable the Avahi popup, let me know.
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Mar 31, 2010
I have Dell Studio 540 desktop and Debian Lenny installed on it:
2.6.26-2-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Mar 9 22:29:32 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
The problem is that I can't reboot it. It just hangs after "Will now restart" message.
I've already tried: reboot=b, reboot=a, reboot=h kernel options.
Additional info (I can provide any other information):
lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset DRAM Controller (rev 03)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[Code]....
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May 11, 2011
I'm having a bit of trouble setting up Multitouch for my current setup. I have gone through and tried setting it with synclient, but when I place both of my fingers on the touchpad, the pointer jumps/jitters around.
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Aug 28, 2011
There purports to be a built-in microphone in this computer.
I tried using SoundRecorder in Gnome to test this theory. It records silence.
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Feb 23, 2010
Is Ubunutu better than Windows 7 for general battery life?
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May 12, 2010
So, I never got great battery life with 9.04 or 9.10, but it was acceptable. Here's the thing, with Windows 7 I can get about two hours. With Ubuntu I'm lucky if I get an hour, and I mean really lucky. I have selected to dim the brightness and to spin down the HDD when possible, it hasn't helped a whole lot. What I don't see is an option to underclock the CPU, which is done rather easily in Kubuntu.
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Apr 30, 2010
Installed Lucid netbook-remix on my Aspire One with SSD and 3 cell battery last night. Under 9.10 I got 2hr 15mins with wifi and up to 3hr without wifi. This morning on the train to work I booted the new release only to find that without wifi I'm now getting only 1hr 20mins battery life (fully charged battery). I have the brightness turned down low to try and save a little power but it makes no difference. What can I do. As this is a netbook-remix release having just over an hour of battery life is plain awful and impractical.Any suggestions to increase battery life?
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Feb 24, 2011
So I've been using Ubuntu on a Toshiba L645d, and after a few hiccups with the sound and wireless, it's finally working well now. However, the battery is still a bit less when compared to Windows 7 (2:00 vs 2:35, but it came with optimizations on W7 so that might be the reason. A comparison of power used: 25w of power on Ubuntu vs 17.5 on W7.
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Mar 3, 2011
I've used an older version of ubuntu before, when it was brown and orange. I ran it off of a 8 gb solid state express card. Used it for about a month, didn't like it because I didn't know how to install anything and because it was slow (because ran off of a express card). Now, I'm looking to try ubuntu 10.10 on a partition of a main hard drive, specifically on the chrome os laptop when it comes out.
Now, I've read up that the battery life for ubuntu is mysteriously worse than on what would run a mac or a windows. This battery life issue is driving me away from ubuntu. How much battery life would I actually get for ubuntu if my battery life lasts 4 hours running a windows 7? And how much hard drive space do I need to partition to install ubuntu?
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Feb 23, 2010
I just got a dell studio 1557 with core i7 processor. I have heard they run warm and suspect this one is no exception but am having a hard time monitoring the temps. When doing acpi -V i can see 2 thermal zones (0,1) with the first being 63C and the second always staying 26.8C. When I am doing a lot of processing the first thermal zone jumps up quickly. First, should that be the processor temp? Secondly, any way to get more accurate readings with lm-sensors(sensors-detect can find no monitoring items).
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Nov 14, 2010
I've been using Ubuntu for the past four years, but I recently bought a Dell Mini 1012, and while Ubuntu 10.04 is wonderful in every way, it is giving me quite poor results in terms of battery life, compared to Windows 7 which is also installed on the device. I have been able to get 4.5 hours out of Ubuntu,compared to the 8 hours I have been able to get with Windows 7 Starter. I have tried everything suggested here in order to get better battery life out of Ubuntu, but without success.I'm wondering if I might have better success with another distribution.Are there any Linux distributions available that can claim longer battery life than others, on netbooks and in general? This question can be answered objectively if it is backed up with hard data from based on benchmarks,
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Apr 1, 2010
I have a Samsung R510 laptop, with a short-life battery (holds up to 1.5 hours) Is there any way to make my laptop work longer by using some tweaks? Maybe it is possible to change the CPU according to the load?
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Feb 4, 2011
I currently use windows 7 on my laptop which gives me on average on 2 hours of battery life. If replace windows with ubuntu, would it allow more battery life time? I am a student, and I always have battery life issue when I work at uni.
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Jul 6, 2011
i recently purchased my second laptop, primarily for linux. When i chose it, my main concern was battery life. Just to make a side note. When i say battery life, i mean how long the computer takes until the battery goes flat. Not how many years/ect it takes till the battery will no longer hold charge.
My new computer claims to be able to get 10 hours. Although it's a bit off, i get a satisfying little bit over 6 hours, from full charge. This is running Windows 7. I couldn't wait to put Linux on my new computer, i have, but it just isn't satisfying because i only get about 4 hours while running linux, tried three different distros, and all roughly the same.
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Jun 2, 2011
I just upgraded to f15 x86_64. I use a VPCCEB3Z1E vaio laptop and I noticed that my laptop can't last more than half past an hour running from battery in wireless productivity (just surfing the net and make some word processing, so nothing so heavy...) I use kde 4, installed cpupowerutils (replacement for cpufrequtils), put the modules acpi_cpufreq, cpufreq-ondemand -powersave and the other governors in /etc/rc.d/rc.local for loading them at boot. Edited profiles in powerdevil (every profile has cpupowerutils freq-set -g and the name of a governor) but i still notice no changes. How I can get a better power management on this laptop? Fan still runs at high speed.
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Mar 3, 2010
I've decided to format my netbook entirely and just run NBR. I still need a windows install because a lot of stuff still doesn't work correctly in wine.
will running a virtual windows install kill mu netbooks battery life quickly or is it the same as running any other program? also what's a good virtual OS program? I think the only one I know of it vmware or something?
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Jun 16, 2010
My battery life in Ubuntu is much less than that of Windows 7. I am trying to find ways to improve my battery life in Ubuntu. One thing that I notice is that my CPU (Intel Core i7 on a Lenovo Thinkpad W510) always runs at 55 degrees Celsius or even higher. my GPU right now reads 51. Seems pretty toasty to me, but not too over the top. Is it abnormal to have this as an average temperature? (since writing, it has risen to 57. I am on AC power, listening to music with Rhythmbox and browsing the web in Google Chrome.)
My cpu mode is set to 'ondemand', and I think this is a good option to balance power and speed. I am wondering if there is a similar function for the gpu. In my Nvidia settings my "PowerMizer" preferred mode is set to adaptive. Is that essentially all the improvement I'm going to get? In windows it seems like the amount of heat coming from the fan corresponds to running cpu/gpu intensive programs. When I'm not doing much, the exhaust is not as hot. In Ubuntu 10.04, the stream of heat is relatively constant. It does increase with more use, but it seems that the base temperature is higher.
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Dec 31, 2009
This link, acpi: thermal/sysfs-api, explains how the new thermal management sysfs class is built, but doesn't give much information about using it. Using watch, I can see that the cur_state of cooling_device2 changes from 0 to 5 when I check "Dim display when idle" in Power Management Preferences. But I haven't found an applet that changes cooling_device0 or cooling_device1.
Echoing different integers to the cur_state files limits the maximum cpu frequency for cpu0 and cpu1, respectively. This behaviour is expected from what I've read, and mimics the options in Windows power manager for extending battery life by throttling the CPUs. I've had no luck with google and local man pages, so has anybody has seen an applet for controlling /sys/class/thermal/cooling_device[0|1]/cur_state?
On a side note, a value of 1 does slow the CPU down, but it will still hit 100C (normal for an Intel mobile duo core). However, values of 2 and larger throttle enough to lower the maximum CPU temp. Since the CPU temp is a good indicator of power consumption, it's pretty obvious that these two cur_state files are intended to extend battery life. dd_wizard
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Apr 20, 2010
So I've come across several tips to optimize battery life on Linux. [URLs]. In addition to undervolting, I would like to underclock. Is there a way to control CPU speed outside of the BIOS via some software control in Linux... or some sort of boot manager? I would like to boot to linux using underclocked speeds and have Windows running full blast. Is there a way to run Linux completely in RAM? I have read that saves on power consumption from the hard drive.
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Aug 30, 2010
I am wanting to replace the hard drive on my laptop with a Compact Flash Card. I bought a card and a adapter, but I am seeing that there are a lot of downsides to this (e.g. the card is slower, writes should be conserved because of limited write cycles, etc..) plus, in order to change the hard drive in my laptop (ibook g3 clamshell) you literally have to disassemble the entire thing! I mainly wanted to do this project to increase my battery life. However, some people say that it doesn't make much of a difference, while others say it is wonderful. So, to those that have done this mod, how much of a difference did it make for you?
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Jan 24, 2011
I have an Asus Eee PC with Ubuntu Netbook Remix (Unity). The other day, I turned off the wireless using the keyboard shortcut to save battery life when I was somewhere without wireless, but now it's not turning back on. I tried restarting, I've done the keyboard shortcut several times, and it still just says "disconnected" for wireless and wired, even though there are several wireless networks around me right now. There aren't any options in Network Connections or Network Tools to turn on the wireless. Is there a way to manually turn it back on?
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Jun 26, 2015
In Jessie I would change the "critically low battery value". So from dconf-editor I followed this path:
Code: Select all/org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/power/
as suggested here [URL] ....
and here [URL] ....
The problem is that I haven't none of the following fields:
time-action
time-critical
time-low
or
use-time-for-policy
percentage-action
percentage-critical
percentage-low
How can I overcome this problem? Why the dconf-editor seems to be incomplete?
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Feb 24, 2011
How to set battery charge thresh ?I use thinkpad w500 with Debian 6 .
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Jul 13, 2011
I have looked all over the place but I can't find if this is possible. I am running Debian 6 as a media server (SMB) and it is tied to a UPS, I used gnome power management to set up a low battery shutdown but this UPS also is powering another embedded computer. So, I was wondering if it was possible to have a script run (to log in and shut down the embedded system) before gnome power management shuts down the Debian server. I know I could probably get it to run on every shutdown, but I am looking for low power only.
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Apr 7, 2016
After a successful install of the MFC-J4420DW printer and scanner using Brother's install utility, I am experience severe battery drain and xsane freezes (total system lockup, requiring using CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ keyboard command REISUB or hard reset).
The Brother support page and utility/drivers are found here: URl....My laptop is the HP Elitebook 8540W and I am running Debian 8 using LVM, separate partitions for /home, /var, /temp, /swap, and /. I have looked at logs in /var/log. kern.log, daemon.log, messages and dmesg, but have not found any relevant info ...
I purged all drivers/packages and tried a manual install using each deb package, but ran into some permission errors, so I purged again. I also purged xsane and reinstalled it, then did a complete printer reinstall using the brother Driver Install Tool.The tool works great, full functionality for the MFC-J4420DW. But I know I can't live with the power drain, and I would really prefer to use Gimp and the xsane plugin rather than simple scan ..
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Feb 1, 2010
Any programs out there I can get to show this on my laptop please? I've searched this forum for "laptop" and "power", but threads are going on about increasing battery life and not actually showing how much battery is left on the machine.
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