Ubuntu Installation :: How To Do Partial Clean Install Rather Than Upgrade
Apr 14, 2010
I have a compaq nx7010. It started out with 8.04 or perhaps 8.10. I upgraded it through to 9.04 when that became available. I have not upgraded to 9.10 year, because I recall it took me a fair amount of time to get my system working correctly after the 9.04 upgrade. At a guess, audio went down, wifi broke, and that sort of thing. I am now finding that apps I use are not releasing new versions compatible with 9.04. And I see 10.04 is on its way, and I understand it is best to go from one upgrade to the next rather than jump a release.
Here's my question:
I get the impression it is cleaner and more stable to do a clean install as opposed to an upgrade. I've also seen many people expressing that view. I've always just gone with upgrading because I didn't like the thought of having to set my whole computer up the way I like it, again. Is there a way to do a clean install that will keep my system the way I like it? For instance, to not have to reconfigure every application?
I have my partitions set up like this:
Just how much config related stuff is stored in the /home folder? Or is this purely user files? What is the consensus? Is it better to upgrade or to do a clean install? My intention is to have a stable system that does not require hours of my time to get sound and wifi working, with the latest release on it (so that I can run the latest apps).
I'm currently using Ubuntu Jaunty, and am considering upgrading to Karmic. Is there any advantage to backing up my data and clean-sheet installing a newer version, or is the upgrade path through the update manager sufficient? Would a clean install carry less baggage coding-wise?
I have tried to do a clean install of 10.10 on a system that previously had 9.4 on it. Did not do an upgrade just requested a clean install of UBUNTU. Install proceeds to create user name/password page then just stops. Install line below says ready when you are but I do not get a forward to come up on the screen, it just sits there. I have used different hard drives and a different cdrom drive and 2 different installation disks and it does the same thing.
1. I want to revert back to Ubuntu (I currently am running Dual Slackware/Vista). However, given that at the end of this month 10.4 will be out, is there much advantage to installing 9.10 now and upgrading later?
2. Another way to ask this might be: Suppose you already had 9.10 (which many of you do), and suppose you also have a safe /home (so that in a fresh install you wont loose /home), what is the advantage of a fresh install as compared to Upgrade.
I currently run 9.10 and have / and /home mounted on different partitions. From what I understand, I can do a fresh install of 10.04 on / while preserving my settings on /home. What about the development tools? I currently have Apache web server, Tomcat, MySQL, PostgreSQL installed. I presume I will have to reinstall them if I do a fresh install right? So if I want to preserve these dev tools as they are I should only do an upgrade from the update manager? Are there any major advantages to a clean install over an upgrade?
Code: Not all updates can be installed Run a partial upgrade, to install as many updates as possible. This can be caused by: * A previous upgrade which didn't complete * Problems with some of the installed software * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu
I am using the latest Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid lynx. Sometimes ago while I am updating my operating system to linux-image-2.6.32-25-generic (2.6.32-25.44) with update manager, after downloading all the files it was running the installation. During installation suddenly my pc turned off, may be for some power issue. Then while I again start my pc and tried to restart the update process the update manager show me a message. "Not all updates can be install. Run a partial upgrade, to install as many as updates as possible."
This can be caused by: * A previous upgrade which didn't complete. * Problem with some of the installed software. * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu. * Normal changes of a pre-release version of Ubuntu.
Then I tried to open the synaptic package manager. But it didn't open either and show another message which suggest to run the command in the terminal: "sudo dpkg --configure -a". And unluckily it wasn't work. and show the messgae: "dpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0103' near line 0: newline in field name `#padding'".
I have a Dell studio running ubuntu for two years now. I had ubuntu 10.04, but a few days ago, the update manager started to bug me that some stuff don't work properly and that I need to to a partial upgrade. I postponed that for a while, and all worked fine, but I finally had sometime and clicked "yes", all began collapsing:
1) the update manager crashed while updating.
2) I rebooted and ran it again. same crash at the same stage.
3) I decided, god knows why, to do a full upgrade to 10.10, which also crasehd.
Now it won't even boot. It always get stuck at a line saying "no IPv6 routers present" or something of that sort. when I switch off manually the wireless switch on the laptop, the boot gets stuck a bit earlier, on a line that says: "laptop login:"
EDIT: I just remembered something which might be important: I had a hibernation problem on the upgrade to 10.04, so I played around a bit with that. now it uses libgcrypt, and I remember I set up something manually then, but I can't remember what.
I got a notification that there was an upgrade available today in ubuntu 9.10 64, after the update i restarted my system and while booting i encountered this error message:
Kernel panic - not syncing : VFS : Unable to mount root fs on unknown - block (8,17)
does this have something to do with the OS looking at the wrong hd? theres no command prompt to actually do anything and i tried booting in safe mode and had the same problem. Let me know what i can do!
I have 10.10 Desktop right now.. and was considering the 11.04 beta 2 upgrade. However, when 11.04 comes out.. first.. will I be able to update to 11.04 final from 11.04 beta (if so is that automatic.. or do I need to do clean install)? Second, will the 11.04 beta 2 upgrade.. as well as the 11.04 final release.. remove/replace old 10.10 stuff.. or is an upgrade going to leave a lot of stuff around and thus a clean install is the best way to go?
I have a lot of stuff.. bookmarks, tools, data, etc on my linux box.. and while I do have a 2nd drive that I can move stuff to, if the upgrade path is as clean (or almost as clean) as a clean install, I am fine with that. I recall from Windows upgrades, there is generally a lot of remnants left behind that can slow things down or just sit around taking up space for no good reason. So I want to avoid anything like that if possible.
Today I tried to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10. It got through probably 50% of the install and then everything froze. I had to hard restart the computer, but when I try to boot to ubuntu, it just gives me a prompt and acts as if everything is wrong. I have tried a few things (sudo dpkg -configure -a; sudo dpkg -reconfigure; etc..) but it all seems to lead back to the prompt with no success. Is there anyway to recover my upgrade? Do I have to resort to a reinstall of ubuntu and lose all my data?
Could not calculate the upgrade An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade:
E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
This can be caused by:
* Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu
* Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu
* Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu
If none of this applies, then please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the files in /var/log/dist-upgrade/ in the bug report. I wanted to attach the log files; YOUR FORUM RULES WOULD NOT ALLOW ME TO AS IT SAID FILES TOO LONG!
I upgraded from F13 to F14 Final i386 off the i386 DVD this AM and just wanted to say the upgrade went very smooth and I've yet to come across any issues. I have nvidia video but I do not use nvidia 3rd party drivers so I cannot say how an upgrade with those drivers would go.
kpackagekit warned me about a distribution upgrade to FC12in order to set things in motion i have to press the upgrade button is this action completely safe?since my FC11 is working like a charm, and i consider to upgrade to FC13, depending on the fact if i can build kernel drivers for kernel 2.6.32-,, that is still in the testing repo'smy idea is to upgrade all available packages from testing when fc11 is EOL, and i will see what happends after this upgrade, if my system crashes or whats so ever, i will install FC13.
I used to use Ubuntu 9.10 for a year. I had my home path on different partition (19Gb) than the system partition (12Gb). Before I upgraded, the free space on Home partition (19Gb) was 6.3Gb. I knew that the direct upgrade is not good, so, I format the system partition (12Gb). Then, I install clean version of Ubuntu 10.04 on it. every thing is great. except that, I can not find my files in the old home path. In same time, Ubuntu is telling me that the Home partition (19Gb) (which I have not touch at all) has free space of 6.3Gb and used space of 11.3Gb. It means it can recognize that there is something but it can not open it at all.
forgive me for raising a common problem again, but I cannot find a fix in the other threads. I am trying to catch up on upgrades. Step 1 is to get up to 9.10 from 9.04 Doing so however I am being told I don't have enough disk space I present have my 35-odd GB HDD partitioned: 6GB for Ubuntu 28 for Data and 1. or so for swap
evidently I underestimated my Ubuntu partition.
what can I do now?
I have run Computer Janitor (is that the application that results from Sudo apt-get clean? I did that but couldn't figure out how to "clean"?)
I have Gparted installed but I don't see how to use the Move/Resize option.
Currently running 9.10 and am interested in 10.04 upgrade but download manager tells me this is a 1.2 GB download and I have just a wireless connection making this a lengthy and tedious affair.Is there any way of doing a partial upgrade bits at a time without having to go whole hog?
I accidentally installed a partial upgrade, and Empathy was removed from the indicator applet (next to Evolution Mail under the envelope icon). How can I restore it? PS: When this happened, I had no idea that partial upgrades could cause problems in our PCs, such as removing packages..
I have a PC with a 120GB HDD which is clean and formatted.I have commenced install of 10.10 from CD. It starts fine and I run through to the who are you window. I have filled in all the details but the "FORWARD" button is grayed out. Also, the progress bar eventually stops altogether. Is the system hanging, or is the install just slow?
So I've been trying to install 11.04 x64 on the same drive as Windows 7. The install seemed to go fine until it tried to install grub over the Windows 7 bootloader. My first try at this, I just told it to try again, and it seemed to install fine. It then rebooted and came up with the grub bootloader as expected. However, when it attempted to boot into 11.04, it gives me an error that says "unknown filesystem". It does however boot into Windows 7 fine. While I was writing this up, I went into my BIOS to make sure that my SSD was set to be the primary boot drive and it was not. Changed the SSD to primary boot priority and away it went.
For some reason, with the my other hard drive as the primary boot drive, it wouldn't boot to Ubuntu, but would behave just fine when going into Windows. Very strange behavior. I rebooted the computer again to make sure that the boot priorities fixed the problem and the default background came up halfway, like a corrupted .jpg file, so I forced a shutdown. Now I'm back to what I started with. I've been rebooting to see if I can reproduce the good startup, but to no avail. Also, when grub is loaded, it either gives me a purple or black background. Is this normal? It seems to alternate randomly.
TL;DR I get one of three errors when trying to boot into 11.04 from a clean install next to a fresh Windows 7 install. "error: unknown filesystem" "error: hd1 out of disk" "error: you need to load the kernel first" I also see a kernel panic every now and again.
I've got a bootable flash drive with 11.04 on it and that's what I've been trying to install from. I've been looking more into this issue, and from what I've uncovered in the forums is that the new grub bootloader that comes with Natty has some issues. I found the procedure for a downgrade of grub to the Maverick version, but I have not come across a 64-bit procedure. This downgrade has worked from what I've read so far.
few months back I did a clean install of 9.10 from 9.04 (wanted to clear room so decided against upgrade path) and since then I've been really struggling to boot into it. I've used Ubuntu since 7.04 and never had any issues with it - these issues have only started happening since my upgrade to 9.10. And I was hoping that 9.10 would be the release I could persuade her indoors to not boot into Windows XP!
Anyway my problem is that when I choose Ubuntu 9.10 from the boot list it gets to the point where the Ubuntu symbol is splashed up (with the brown background and the light shining on it) and then the little progress bar underneath freezes and the whole box freezes. It doesn't respond to any keypresses like the "magic" ones and I have mashed CTRL ALT F1 plus others keys repeatedly. Caps lock doesn't respond either so looks like completely frozen, though worth noting that the hard drive still sounds like it's spinning.
I've tried with every boot command under the sun (noapci, nosplash, quiet, noapic etc.) and none of them make any difference bar two - apci=noirq starts the desktop occasionally but with no windows manager, and irqpoll stops the freeze but it never loads the desktop or manager. Both these last two commands work about 1 in 10 boots or so but usually it freezes. I can also sometimes press Escape as soon as the Ubuntu symbol shows on screen and sometimes (about 1 in 5 tries) it gets into the desktop, but only if I hit it before it freezes up. The above does point to an IRQ issue but wondering what has changed since 8.10 and 9.04 which worked perfectly?
I've also booted into recovery mode and updated/fixed packages but the same thing happens with the recent 2.6.31-19 generic as well as -17, -14 etc. As per above I'm dual booting with Windows XP as the default boot option (wife's orders) but don't think this is related.
I'm a relatively new user of Linux, I use Kubuntu 9.10, and I would like to know whether I need to make a clean install for upgrading to 10.4 (I know, stable isn't ready yet, but I'm impatient , and I want to prepare in advance) or I could do it in some way without losing everything I have installed? Or maybe it would be better to only upgrade to the newest version of KDE (I'm using 4.3.2 now)? Which one is easier and/or better? How is it done (Note: using KDE)?