Ubuntu Installation :: Without Touching Windows Bootloader?
Sep 23, 2010
So here's the skinny, I have Windows 7 home Premium installed on my Touchsmart PC. I have a 60 GB partition I want to use for Ubuntu. Can I install Ubuntu to that partition so that it doesn't change how my computer boots up already?
Example:
I press the power button. The POST test processes and then boots into windows no questions asked, as if it's the only OS on the system.
I want to keep it that way even after Ubuntu is installed.
I want Ubuntu ONLY accessible by using the BIOS boot menu as soon as the PC starts up.
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Aug 5, 2011
What is the "recommended" method for dual-booting Ubuntu and Windows 7, if one cannot allow the disk's MBR to be overwritten or changed in any way?
Before now, I have either installed GRUB/GRUB2 to the MBR, or else installed Ubuntu and Windows to two different hard drives.
The machine in this case, a Samsung NP300-V5A-A02US notebook PC, has only a single hard drive. I cannot allow any alteration of the MBR, because then the Samsung backup/system recovery software (Samsung Recovery Solution 5) will no longer work.
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Feb 11, 2010
I was wondering if it's possible to use the windows bootlaoder instead of GRUB to choose between Windows and Linux? If so how?
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Jun 1, 2010
I am trying to install Ubuntu10.04 on my machine which already has on it, Win XP. Lemme lay down the setup of my machine first of all.
I got a new 320GB HDD of which I have taken 20GB as the primary partition and installed Win XP on it. Took another 220GB as an extended partition for my data storage. Around 63GB was remaining which I left it as unallocated. Decided to try Ubuntu, but preferred to boot it from the windows bootloader. Downloaded and burned the Ubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso(have a AMD x3 425 machine) and tried an install on 30GB of the 63 left.
I did not try any partition scheme. I chose the manual partition option, made a 28GB ext4 partition, made it primary, mounted the /, took another 2GB for the swap and proceeded. Chose advanced option and installed grub on the 28GB(/dev/sda6) and completed the installation.
Since no grub was installed, Ubuntu was not available. So then, used the bootpart utility to point grub to the windows bootloader, but it did not work, was giving me error when I chose Ubuntu from the bootmenu modified by the bootpart.
So tried booting with the same install cd, chose Live Ubuntu this time and mounted the 28GB, copied the first 512bytes using dd if=/dev/sda6 of=ubuntu bs=512 count=1 to a usb drive. Rebooted into windows and copied the file to C: and added it to the boot.ini. Rebooted and tried choosing Ubuntu from the boot menu but it does not work. I get a blank screen with the cursor blinking.
The machine is new and BIOS is LBA enabled by auto.
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Sep 4, 2010
i had a dual boot xp/ubuntu first. later i had to format and reinstall xp. this deleted the grub bootloaderplease let me know, how to fix this! please make it simple . i have the live cd, but i don't have internet connectivity in ubuntu.
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Nov 30, 2010
I was wondering if i could reinstall the windows bootloader with the ubuntu installation cd..because with the current ubuntu installation the windows 7 installation dvd doesnt load up. when i use a windows xp cd, the computer tells me that there is no active hard drive. other linux distros work just fine
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Sep 1, 2011
I installed Ubuntu and Windows 7 on my computer. I first get the Windows bootloader telling me choose between Windows or Ubuntu. If I pick Ubuntu, I then get a GRUB loader telling me to choose between different versions of Ubuntu and Windows 7. How do I remove GRUB and just use Windows bootloader?
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Feb 22, 2010
i've been using ubuntu with wubi, and I'd like to install it on my new hard drive (so windows is on one hdd and ubuntu is on another). afaik, grub will be installed on the hdd w/ ubuntu, and i have to set it to recognize the other (windows) hdd. assuming that i want to get rid of ubuntu and just use windows, what steps do I have to take to do so? (if grub is only on the ubuntu hdd, then would I just have to format it?)
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Jun 7, 2010
When I try to boot into windows through grub it just returns to the grub menu.also system recovery options from bios just end up in grub screen too.here is boot script.From reading forums I think I need to get grub out of windows partition but I don't know how
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Jul 19, 2010
I'm relatively new to Ubuntu, I've installed it in Virtual Box and through Wubi on other computers but this was the first time that I've done a live install on my production computer. I had problems from the get go, I was using a Live CD of 10.04 (64 bit AMD) to install it and when it got to the part about choosing a partition no drives would show up at all. Eventually after some searching around, I discovered that Using an Alternate install CD would work. I did that, installing Ubuntu into one of the free partitions I had set up prior to this. Eventually my system turned on but the monitor went to sleep so I had to hit E on the grubmenu and change something to nomodeset (or something like that) so that I could see the screen. I installed Compiz and it was all good from there.
Except for One issue, I cannot boot Into windows at all, it doesn't show up on the bootloader even though the partition shows up in Gparted. I've tried updating Grub2 with no results, here are the results of Sudo fdisk -l
Disk /dev/sda: 400.1 GB, 400088457216 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 48641 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x1549f232 .....
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Oct 30, 2010
Anyhow, I'm a n00b to the Linux world, so I installed it on my Windows 7 desktop to dual boot. Current configuration is as such:160GB HDD with 3 partitions: Ubuntu Studio 10.10 on one, Win 7 on another, and the third is for storage.1TB HDD for extra storage.So far, all is well, but I'm not pleased with the default GRUB options and layout. It gives me 4 options to choose:
-Ubuntu Studio
-Memtest
-Memtest Debug Mode (or something to that effect)
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Nov 11, 2010
I have grub installed which boots both my ubuntu and windows which are in seperate partition. I'm about to format my windows, will it affect anything? Like though my ubuntu will not be formated nor the bootloder but shouldn't the windows bootloader overwrite somethign and make it default? Thus making ubuntu impossible to boot?
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Dec 5, 2008
I know practically nothing about Linux but am trying to learn. I actually want to get certified Linux+. So I figure this forum would be a great resource. Anyway, I have a dual boot situation going on my laptop with Windows XP and Ubuntu, and am pretty frustrated that I seem to forced to use GRUB. I really dont feel like reinstalling. Is there a way to simply change it back to using the Windows bootloader?
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Jan 15, 2010
Basically, I used a USB stick to run ubuntu 9.10 live, then tried to install to an external 500gb HDD connected with a Sharkoon Drivelink USB adaptor. The installation went fine, but I get a GRUB error 21 when booting a lot of the time. I figure this is due to the way in which the drive is connected. I am a complete noob, and I want to just ove GRUB completely and restore my Vista bootloader. Unfortunately, I do not have an installation disk as my laptop didn't come with one, and none of the others I have other PC's are the same version (home premium 32-bit).If you know of a way to fix the GRUB issue/sso I can use the external drive I would love to hear them too, but the main aim of this thread is to help me remove GRUB and restore the windows bootloader. If any more information is needed, just ask and I will provide it.HP Touchsmart TX2-1010Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bitExternal HDD:Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 SATAII (with jumper set for 150mbps)
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Jan 26, 2010
I currently dual boot and wish to know how to remove the Windows partition/drive while still allowing Ubuntu 9.04 to load safely as my main OS. I know how to restore windows partition by;
If MBR gets damaged boot from MS Windows Xp disc, Select "R" for "recovery console", select main windows installation drive (admin password usually nothing, just press enter) and type "FIXMBR" this will allow you to boot windows again, but Ubuntu partition will be unbootable and require installing ubuntu again to dual boot.
But this leaves Ubuntu partition Un-bootable as it removes the grub menu, how would I do the same for Ubuntu and make window partition un-bootable so I can remove it?
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Oct 12, 2014
I have a dual boot machine (Windows 7 and Debian). W7 and debian are on the same HD but on different partitions. The debian partition is an LVM encrypted one.
The W7 needs reinstalling, and as I understand the process will overwrite the debian bootloader (grub).
Question: Is there a way to save the current bootloader and recover it after I've reinstalled W7, so I wont have to reinstall debian from scratch?.
I plan to re-install W7 on the same partition it is now, without overwriting the debian partition.
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Mar 12, 2010
I have installed Windows 7 and fedora 12 on my system.I want to reinstall my windows 7 but as I know after installing windows 7 , i will not be able to boot my fedora 12 how to recover bootloader of fedora 12 after installing windows 7. [URL]
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Jan 19, 2011
I am getting a new computer with Windows 7 installed. It will contain a second hard disk on which I will install Fedora Linux. I plan to put grub in the /boot partition of that disk,so I won't be able to boot Linux directly to start. I plan to use the Windows 7 bootloader to dual boot, and I understand in principle how this is done. I set up a previous computer which was running Vista this way, using the program Easy BCD which simplified setting up the Vista bootloader. But the Easy BCD website doesn't address the question of what to do with Windows 7.
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Jul 11, 2011
I got a system crippling virus on my windows installation. My recovery disks gave me the same problem. So I installed Win 7 enterprise using a disk my dad got from his work. The installation went smoothly. When I started my computer after it went straight to Win 7 without the GRUB bootloader (not the case with restore disks). Could somebody please help me with this issue because I cant stand using Windows for anything other than games much longer.
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Feb 4, 2009
I thought it would be cool and easy to install Windows 7, ended up being a headache and worthless so far. Now I only have the windows bootloader with vista and windows 7 as options. How can I get grub going again? I have all 6 fedore core 10 cds and a live cd in case those will help, I am using the live cd to play in fedora right now, but I am not sure how to get access to grub.conf and what to change in it, because I am pretty sure I have to add Windows 7 to it.
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Jul 27, 2010
Whenever I load Ubuntu on a machine with other OS(s) loaded it always recognizes and adds an entry in the bootloader menu. Not this time. Well kind of. After the install my windows boot option was in the menu, but after an update it is no more. I see the different Linux images... but no Windows boot option. Can someone tell me how to add my windows XP boot option back to the bootloader? I have XP on the the on the 5th partition and Ubuntu on the 6th...
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May 26, 2011
I've read the official documentation regarding hard drives and partitions. My pc has two hard drives. a 160gb primary hard drive with windows 7 a 1.5 tb secondary hard drive with about 80gb of free space I would like to know whether I can install ubuntu on the secondary hard drive, without touching any of the data present on that drive. From my limited understanding of storage, files are written all over hard drives during copy, move etc... Is the ubuntu partition manager smart enough not to overwrite any files during installation? Will I get a warning if there is a risk of any data loss on the secondary hard drive? I cannot backup any of the data on the secondary hard drive due to all my external drives currently being full.
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Jul 18, 2010
I have Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and Windows XP installed on my laptop. Usually when booting, I get the GRUB 2 menu and I can boot into either Ubuntu or XP.I was playing around with EasyBCD, then after trying to remove it I was unable to boot into Windows, I used a Windows 2000 CD recovery console to fix the MBR (using: fixboot and fixmbr).Now Windows starts up when I power on, but I don't get the grub menu anymore with an Ubuntu option. If I boot from the Ubuntu Live CD and try to mount my Ubuntu partition (/dev/sda5) I get this error:
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda5,
missing codepage or helper program, or other error
In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
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Sep 11, 2010
Is it possible to have the Windows bootloader point to Windows 7 and a Linux partition instead of using GRUB to point to Windows 7 and Linux?
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Jan 9, 2010
i turn on my computer today and the windows partition that is normally there is gone, i don't know why or where it went. the part of the harddrive still exsists because i still have the 282GB partition that i can look at through ubuntu.i have is that for some reason since i upgraded to karmic koala, i have a bunch of old kernals also chilling on grub doing nothing, how do i rid myself of those?
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Jul 4, 2011
My setup is like this:
* Installed Windows 7 on primary (SATA) hard drive
* Installed Ubuntu 11.04 on secondary (IDE) hard drive
I've worked with Wubi before, and I liked it so much, I decided to go full scale with Ubuntu. However, I think I've missed an option in the setup, because Grub has now taken over my bootloader. I tried reverting to the Windows loader with EasyBCD, but booting Ubuntu from there is impossible, since it doesn't show itself. By the way, I don't really understand EasyBCD, so that makes it even harder. Anyway, what I'm trying to accomplish here, is to get a bootloader which uses Windows as default and Ubuntu as secondary OS. How do I do this?
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Oct 14, 2010
I have a netbook dual-booting Windows 7 and Ubuntu Netbook Edition via Wubi. Ubuntu crashed on me while I was recording a screencast and I rebooted to find the Windows bootloader no longer works. It simply gives me an error ("cannot load bootfont") for a split second and restarts immediately. I'm able to access the grub menu with a bootable USB drive and access the Wubi partition, but I can't boot Windows, including the Windows recovery partition. I can still boot Ubunutu.
My question is: is there a way to restore the Windows bootloader in Ubuntu? If not, how can I replace it with a grub bootloader and keep my Wubi boot options intact?
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Sep 14, 2010
i just installed Ubuntu from an ISO about a year old and of course i updated it to the latest version and when i get that screen at startup where i have a choice of which version to load i get something like this: My current version, memtest, an old installation of Ubuntu and some really old versions. The problem is i also have Windows7 and Vista installed(vista really needs to go) but i don't have either of them as a choice in the bootloader. How do i get it back? Also before the update i had it on the list.
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Oct 31, 2010
Is there any way to simply remove grub? Does GRUB reside in a specific partition? Do I have to just delete the partition that has GRUB on it?The way my bootable partitions work is something like this.
1)Installed Vista
2)Installed Ubuntu
3)Thought I removed GRUB
4)Put in new HDD(1) and installed Win7 onto it
5)Put in another new HDD(2) and put another Win7 onto that (but I disconnected every other HDD so that the bootloader would be written onto the new HDD(2). When I have all my HDD's plugged in now, I get a GRUB load error (I think it's 21).
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Jan 9, 2011
I purchased a Windows 7 upgrade for my PC and plan to do a clean install of 7. I currently dual boot Windows Vista and Ubuntu. I understand when I run the upgrade, it will replace the GRUB Bootloader (Ubuntu Bootloader) with the Windoes Bootloader, when this happens, I won't be able to get back into Ubuntu. How can I correct this issue and reinstall the GRUB Bootloader?
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